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post #5851 of 5867 Unread 07-25-2015, 07:53 AM
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I've gotten most of these multiple times in the summer.

But many of the signals that you frequently receive (like Columbus and Pittsburgh) I've NEVER seen.

Where I am, I have terrain to the east and south, but it's all unobstructed and downhill towards the lake to the northeast and north, so I get Erie and Canada the most.

Though I have gotten 9 from Steubenville and 18/40 from Zanesville (once). And Youngstown (but I'm just out of non-tropo range of WFMJ and WKBN)

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Here is further proof that tropo favors the higher and unobstructed areas. I went to a nearby hill in Richfield. I had my Mohu Leaf and portable 3.5" Auvio TV. I did a scan and picked up several signals I've never seen at my home with the XG91 antenna, and I was only 11 miles away from home. Just a crappy Mohu Leaf!!

18/18 CICO London, ON
21/20 WMYD Detroit, MI
31/31 CITY Woodstock, ON
43/56 WTVS Detroit, MI
44/62 WWJ Detroit, MI
48/69 CFMT London, ON
51/51 CHCH London, ON

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I've gotten most of these multiple times in the summer.

But many of the signals that you frequently receive (like Columbus and Pittsburgh) I've NEVER seen.

Where I am, I have terrain to the east and south, but it's all unobstructed and downhill towards the lake to the northeast and north, so I get Erie and Canada the most.

Though I have gotten 9 from Steubenville and 18/40 from Zanesville (once). And Youngstown (but I'm just out of non-tropo range of WFMJ and WKBN)

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Here is further proof that tropo favors the higher and unobstructed areas. I went to a nearby hill in Richfield. I had my Mohu Leaf and portable 3.5" Auvio TV. I did a scan and picked up several signals I've never seen at my home with the XG91 antenna, and I was only 11 miles away from home. Just a crappy Mohu Leaf!!

18/18 CICO London, ON
21/20 WMYD Detroit, MI
31/31 CITY Woodstock, ON
43/56 WTVS Detroit, MI
44/62 WWJ Detroit, MI
48/69 CFMT London, ON
51/51 CHCH London, ON

Here is the clear view...


Your location is important. I have issues receiving tropo to my west. The east is definitely my best direction. I briefly picked up WNLO Buffalo this morning, and I noticed some sub-decodes on 14 and 43... WUTV and WNED possibly.
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21/20 WMYD Detroit, MI
So what is on 20? I assume the blips on 21 & 48 were from WBNS & WSYX.

As 19 left yesterday & was gone for most of the day, 11 appeared... as 19 came back, 11 disappeared.

Brief appearance of WGTE Sunday AM, no 13... nothing else.

WOIO seems to refuse to acknowledge this issue.
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So what is on 20? I assume the blips on 21 & 48 were from WBNS & WSYX.

As 19 left yesterday & was gone for most of the day, 11 appeared... as 19 came back, 11 disappeared.

Brief appearance of WGTE Sunday AM, no 13... nothing else.

WOIO seems to refuse to acknowledge this issue.
Actual channel 20... that could be WFMJ Youngstown, CJMT London, maybe even CBLT Toronto or even WHNE-LD Detroit.

WMYD Detroit is actual channel 21, virtual 20.

http://www.rabbitears.info/allocatio...20&adj=N&all=Y

WOIO should have put their translator up in Lake County. I certainly don't need it here. It's just a channel clogger.
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WOIO's signal is just fine here on channel 10. In fact, it's pushing the signal indicator up to as high as it can possibly go. It's because I'm using an antenna that's actually designed for VHF-high. WOIO has a null to the north to protect CFPL, and that's why you have problems with it. But I don't think WOIO cared to put a translator up there where it was really needed. They probably assume that the average OTA viewer is using a coat hanger as an antenna inside a concrete apartment building and can't pick the signal in Akron/Canton where there is more population (which is probably an accurate assumption).
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...WOIO seems to refuse to acknowledge this issue.


What issue? I know the other day I had 0 on my meter for 19 (RF24, Akron) for a short bit, then as I came back up scanning the channels it was there again. I just assume it's my box, which known to drop to 0 on any channel at times.




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They certainly would not be able to use RF24 if they had put it in Lake County, way too close to Erie's 24. Assuming no other channel was available, that might be another reason to put it in Akron.

Also, doesn't the 2nd harmonic of FM 97.5 kill off RF10 in a good portion of the Akron area?

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WOIO's signal is just fine here on channel 10. In fact, it's pushing the signal indicator up to as high as it can possibly go. It's because I'm using an antenna that's actually designed for VHF-high. WOIO has a null to the north to protect CFPL, and that's why you have problems with it. But I don't think WOIO cared to put a translator up there where it was really needed. They probably assume that the average OTA viewer is using a coat hanger as an antenna inside a concrete apartment building and can't pick the signal in Akron/Canton where there is more population (which is probably an accurate assumption).
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They certainly would not be able to use RF24 if they had put it in Lake County, way too close to Erie's 24. Assuming no other channel was available, that might be another reason to put it in Akron.

Also, doesn't the 2nd harmonic of FM 97.5 kill off RF10 in a good portion of the Akron area.
I live just one mile from 97.5 WONE. It seems to cause issues with channel 10 on the Zinwell tuner but not the Zenith/Insignia. However, if I use a $2 FM trap, it eliminates the problem.
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They certainly would not be able to use RF24 if they had put it in Lake County, way too close to Erie's 24. Assuming no other channel was available, that might be another reason to put it in Akron.

Also, doesn't the 2nd harmonic of FM 97.5 kill off RF10 in a good portion of the Akron area?
Yeah, I get it there are no avail frequencies up here due to protection to Canada & lack therof, I guess 39 may had worked but it was snatched up.

The WOIO repeater pretty much nulls out the possibility of WJET up here too.
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Channel 5 is having a bad day today...
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I now have autologger, which means I don't have to be at home to see what tropo my tuner can pick up. It automatically scans the channels 24/7, even while I'm sleeping, and shows any signals it picks up. I still have to rotate the antenna though.

Here is a link to the live map of what I'm receiving here... http://www.rabbitears.info/tvdx/one_...038781D/tuner0

Thanks to Trip at RabbitEars for helping me set this up!!
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I now have autologger, which means I don't have to be at home to see what tropo my tuner can pick up. It automatically scans the channels 24/7, even while I'm sleeping, and shows any signals it picks up. I still have to rotate the antenna though.

Here is a link to the live map of what I'm receiving here... http://www.rabbitears.info/tvdx/one_...038781D/tuner0

Thanks to Trip at RabbitEars for helping me set this up!!
That is very cool!
Does it use the HD Homerun?
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Channel 5 is having a bad day today...
Bad day? What's happening?

I'd say I'm having a great day with channel 5, or at least with 5.2. It seems someone FINALLY fixed the popping/clicking audio on that channel. The audio has been clean since this afternoon when I noticed it. It was snap, crackle & popping yesterday.

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Bad day? What's happening?

I'd say I'm having a great day with channel 5, or at least with 5.2. It seems someone FINALLY fixed the popping/clicking audio on that channel. The audio has been clean since this afternoon when I noticed it. It was snap, crackle & popping yesterday.
I imagine it's automation related, between 7 and 8pm they were in black and on a technical difficulties slide for a while. They lost an entire break earlier in the day on Good Morning America. Guess I watch too much TV :-)
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