Originally Posted by KScableguy
One way Cox test to see if a TV with Cable Card is working correctly is to remove the card and see if the TV see the local HD channels. The local HD channels are not encrypted and can be picked up by anyone with a cable card tv without paying. Not all cable card TV's will allow a user to tune to the digital channels without a cable card inserted. My Sony is this way.
There are a few other channels not encrypted, mostly the music channels and the discovery channels (ch. 101 to 111).
You should have to upgrade to the expanded service to get digital cable. I know alot of our older customers have just basic (2 to 23) and digital, so they can get their music channels.
??? Really? I've mentioned previously in this thread (Located here
) that I originally got the HD channels in the clear on Cox (Wichita) with only Extended Basic. About a week afterwards they dissappeared and I haven't seen them since. I've called Cox, and even spoken with an installer that happened to be working on a neighbor's house, and they told me that Cox Wichita encrypts their HD channels.
I've rescanned the channels multiple times with my builtin ATSC tuner (Toshiba 57H94) and now only find the music channels (82-x), Fox (116-1) and UPN (116-2).
Several people have told me that there is a federal law stating that Cox MUST carry the broadcast HD channels in the clear, but nobody has been able to site a specific referenceable FCC quote. I've often heard of it called the "Must Carry Law", but their appears to be loopholes in that big enough to fit a train through.
Lately, I've been using my OTA tuner to watch the locals in HD. That works really well even with my small antenna most of the time. Occasionally, something in the neighborhood makes alot of noise, and I can't keep a lock for anything (my wife can tell by me slamming things around in the house
). I'd love to be able to use Cox as a backup though.
I assume by your name that you work there...can you provide me with some insight? Or even a specific tech that I could speak with who is knowledgeable?