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MPNASCAR24's Avatar MPNASCAR24 07:11 PM 12-18-2011
TW hasn't put WBBZ back in their Genesee County Lineup either. The last time i had access to it on cable was before the shut down. If they do get must carry would they be required to put it back in my channel lineup or would i have to ask tw for it.

New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 04:21 AM 12-19-2011
You guys have real interesting regulations regarding carriage. Over here all local OTA stations automatically have must carry, and have to be below CH30 on the dial too.
dhett's Avatar dhett 08:34 PM 12-19-2011
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You guys have real interesting regulations regarding carriage. Over here all local OTA stations automatically have must carry, and have to be below CH30 on the dial too.

Your government also has a much greater say in what the stations can go on the air, and what they can broadcast. The TVN channel 22 application for St. Catherines was rejected by the CRTC; it probably would have been approved in the U.S. You don't see Canadian stations broadcasting all infomercials, nor do you have low-power stations that originate programming. Cable and satellite providers have a reason to be more selective here.
bowenap's Avatar bowenap 10:58 AM 12-21-2011
Just read on another forum (not sure what the rules are here with linking, but the domain name contains the word "digital" and ends with .ca), that Rogers has confirmed that CITY and Omni 1 has moved to the CN Tower, so what you have now is what you're going to get for a while. Omni 2 is still waiting for its Channel 40 approval.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 02:27 PM 12-21-2011
I'm glad you said something since I would never know it happened. Almost the same signal level for both. What a waste that was.

I see more signal variance within five or ten minutes monitoring a single station that I see here with either. And I'm not talking about some lame percentage scale reading on a TV or some other tuner.
New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 04:20 AM 12-22-2011
Are you guys down south able to get a watchable picture on those stations.
bowenap's Avatar bowenap 06:58 AM 12-22-2011
I have been, but the more I read, the more I'm thinking it's more because of favorable weather conditions (for TV signals...for anything else, it sucks) than a move to the CN Tower. From the few other OTA people in Buffalo I've read, who use amps or pre-amps, they're not getting much of anything from them. It sounds like 43-WNED is still overloading and killing any hope of 44 CITY. I guess I'll never really know until the leaves get back on the trees in about 6 months.

However, I'll take it. CITY-TV has been showing 4pm football games that haven't been available on WIVB or WUTV lately. I wish CTV would show non-local games as well, but they've always ran alongside CBS or Fox in Buffalo.
1HD_addict's Avatar 1HD_addict 11:10 AM 12-23-2011
57 has been strong since the move.

My location @ 1300' elevation near the Boston Hills must really be an advantage.
Don't have to move my indoor antenna - just point it North-Northwest for great reception.

I get all of the following:

Canada: 5, 9, 11, 15, 19, 25, 41, 57
Buffalo: 2, 4, 7, 17, 23, 26, 29, 49, 67

It is interesting, using my older antennas - I don't pick up a single Canadian channel and have a tough time with channels 2 and 17. I am amazed at the difference the Clearstream 2 antenna makes.
New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 12:14 PM 12-23-2011
Wow, you're way south and still getting great reception. It's obviously your elevation that's helping your situation. I guess you don't get the 2 Omni's or CITS on 36 from Hamilton, or WPXJ like i do. I get everything you do with the exception of WBBZ, too bad. It's too bad that those on cable will never have access to Canadian channels, and we love our American channels here. I'm sure you'll have access to CTV2 on ch-42 from Fonthill Ontario when it gets CRTC approval.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 02:40 PM 12-23-2011
It's all about elevation.
Actually, I'm surprised the 'big three' don't kill reception for him.
1HD_addict's Avatar 1HD_addict 10:24 PM 12-23-2011
Once in a while the two Omni channels show up - usually late at night. They have not shown up in several weeks however.

36 is just outside my ability to receive. My tuners see it, and once in a while a picture will be there, but I've only been able to watch a couple shows and it has not shown up in several weeks either.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 01:22 AM 12-24-2011
You surely aren't missing anything with 36.
New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 07:07 AM 12-24-2011
Aside from the religious stuff on 36, they do air some classic tv shows like Gilligans Island, or should i dare say Grand Island.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 07:13 AM 12-24-2011
Like I said, you aren't missing much....................
1HD_addict's Avatar 1HD_addict 08:58 AM 12-24-2011
I watched an episode of Gilligan's Island and an episode of Alf.
Alf was actually quite funny.
Nothing I would DVR on a regular basis - but it would be nice to be able to pick up the channel.
pr92's Avatar pr92 05:01 PM 12-24-2011
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It's too bad that those on cable will never have access to Canadian channels,

Time Warner actually does provide CBLT and CFTO to the Buffalo market. CHCH is available on some other cable system in the southern tier. Sadly, Dish Network, DirecTV, and Verizon FiOS don't offer any Canadian channels.
New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 08:10 AM 12-25-2011
The satellite guys will never offer Canadian channels simply because they can't make a profit from providing them, plus it will utilize their precious bandwidth. I'm also thinking that they would have to blackout CFTO when the same show is on a local station in Buffalo. CBLT and TVO are the only stations that don't have any rights issues since they dont duplicate U.S. programming.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 08:37 AM 12-25-2011
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Time Warner actually does provide CBLT and CFTO to the Buffalo market.

But only in down converted SD. And to boot, programs that are in HD are compressed horizontally. You will have to 'stretch' the image to widescreen for it to be in the proper aspect ratio.
Inundated's Avatar Inundated 08:38 AM 12-25-2011
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Time Warner actually does provide CBLT and CFTO to the Buffalo market. CHCH is available on some other cable system in the southern tier. Sadly, Dish Network, DirecTV, and Verizon FiOS don't offer any Canadian channels.

CHCH is offered, I believe, on TWC's Dunkirk/Fredonia system. At least it was last time I was there, a couple of years or so ago.

The system also had CBLT and CFTO.
New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 06:28 AM 12-31-2011
Reminder folks, Antenna tv begins tomorrow Jan 1, for those that care. WGRZ ch 2.2, and on Time Warner. I think us Canadian folk have more interest in this channel.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 07:35 AM 12-31-2011
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I think us Canadian folk have more interest in this channel.

Major understatement.
Inundated's Avatar Inundated 08:54 AM 12-31-2011
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CHCH is offered, I believe, on TWC's Dunkirk/Fredonia system. At least it was last time I was there, a couple of years or so ago.

The system also had CBLT and CFTO.

Looks like CHCH is no longer on that system, but CBLT and CFTO are still there.
New Cable Guy's Avatar New Cable Guy 10:34 AM 12-31-2011
Maybe they had trouble recieving it when they moved back to CH-11
1HD_addict's Avatar 1HD_addict 11:33 AM 01-01-2012
Loving the 3 Stooges Marathon on Channel 2.2!
FUCCO's Avatar FUCCO 11:58 AM 01-01-2012
not a big fan of the stooges but cant wait till tomorrow for adam-12 and dragnet coming back.
el gran chico's Avatar el gran chico 09:58 PM 01-01-2012
I've already set my TiVo up to record S.W.A.T. and The Monkees next weekend. I haven't seen either of those shows in something like 30 years.
father-o-four's Avatar father-o-four 08:53 AM 01-10-2012
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Originally Posted by 1HD_addict View Post

57 has been strong since the move.

My location @ 1300' elevation near the Boston Hills must really be an advantage.
Don't have to move my indoor antenna - just point it North-Northwest for great reception.

I get all of the following:

Canada: 5, 9, 11, 15, 19, 25, 41, 57
Buffalo: 2, 4, 7, 17, 23, 26, 29, 49, 67

It is interesting, using my older antennas - I don't pick up a single Canadian channel and have a tough time with channels 2 and 17. I am amazed at the difference the Clearstream 2 antenna makes.

Out of curiosity, do any of these channels carry the Sabres hockey games? Looking for alternatives since MSG is no longer on TWC . I too am in the Boston Hills.
Also, what receiver are you using?

Thank you.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 10:02 AM 01-10-2012
Really wishful thinking.
videobruce's Avatar videobruce 10:46 AM 01-10-2012
FWIW, I did a little research on WBBZ, though not as popular here as it is up north (and west).

WBBZ's contact page (notice the address; out in Clarence or E. Amherst depending on which side of Transit they are on);
http://www.wbbz.tv/contact-us/

A concise history of the station and it's predecessors;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBBZ-TV

Whatever happened back last fall, it was confirmed they are still on lower power and the "part" has been "on order". Also note, they have to protect another physical channel 7 east of their location SE of Fredonia, hence their ERP limitation.
father-o-four's Avatar father-o-four 11:09 AM 01-10-2012
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Really wishful thinking.

I figured as much, my hope was a Canadian OTA channel carried the games for fans there.
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