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Old 12-18-2011, 07:11 PM
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TW hasn't put WBBZ back in their Genesee County Lineup either. The last time i had access to it on cable was before the shut down. If they do get must carry would they be required to put it back in my channel lineup or would i have to ask tw for it.
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Old 12-19-2011, 04:21 AM
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You guys have real interesting regulations regarding carriage. Over here all local OTA stations automatically have must carry, and have to be below CH30 on the dial too.
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You guys have real interesting regulations regarding carriage. Over here all local OTA stations automatically have must carry, and have to be below CH30 on the dial too.

Your government also has a much greater say in what the stations can go on the air, and what they can broadcast. The TVN channel 22 application for St. Catherines was rejected by the CRTC; it probably would have been approved in the U.S. You don't see Canadian stations broadcasting all infomercials, nor do you have low-power stations that originate programming. Cable and satellite providers have a reason to be more selective here.
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Old 12-21-2011, 10:58 AM
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Just read on another forum (not sure what the rules are here with linking, but the domain name contains the word "digital" and ends with .ca), that Rogers has confirmed that CITY and Omni 1 has moved to the CN Tower, so what you have now is what you're going to get for a while. Omni 2 is still waiting for its Channel 40 approval.
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Old 12-21-2011, 02:27 PM
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I'm glad you said something since I would never know it happened. Almost the same signal level for both. What a waste that was.

I see more signal variance within five or ten minutes monitoring a single station that I see here with either. And I'm not talking about some lame percentage scale reading on a TV or some other tuner.

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Old 12-22-2011, 04:20 AM
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Are you guys down south able to get a watchable picture on those stations.
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Old 12-22-2011, 06:58 AM
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I have been, but the more I read, the more I'm thinking it's more because of favorable weather conditions (for TV signals...for anything else, it sucks) than a move to the CN Tower. From the few other OTA people in Buffalo I've read, who use amps or pre-amps, they're not getting much of anything from them. It sounds like 43-WNED is still overloading and killing any hope of 44 CITY. I guess I'll never really know until the leaves get back on the trees in about 6 months.

However, I'll take it. CITY-TV has been showing 4pm football games that haven't been available on WIVB or WUTV lately. I wish CTV would show non-local games as well, but they've always ran alongside CBS or Fox in Buffalo.
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Old 12-23-2011, 11:10 AM
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57 has been strong since the move.

My location @ 1300' elevation near the Boston Hills must really be an advantage.
Don't have to move my indoor antenna - just point it North-Northwest for great reception.

I get all of the following:

Canada: 5, 9, 11, 15, 19, 25, 41, 57
Buffalo: 2, 4, 7, 17, 23, 26, 29, 49, 67

It is interesting, using my older antennas - I don't pick up a single Canadian channel and have a tough time with channels 2 and 17. I am amazed at the difference the Clearstream 2 antenna makes.

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Old 12-23-2011, 12:14 PM
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Wow, you're way south and still getting great reception. It's obviously your elevation that's helping your situation. I guess you don't get the 2 Omni's or CITS on 36 from Hamilton, or WPXJ like i do. I get everything you do with the exception of WBBZ, too bad. It's too bad that those on cable will never have access to Canadian channels, and we love our American channels here. I'm sure you'll have access to CTV2 on ch-42 from Fonthill Ontario when it gets CRTC approval.
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Old 12-23-2011, 02:40 PM
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It's all about elevation.
Actually, I'm surprised the 'big three' don't kill reception for him.

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Old 12-23-2011, 10:24 PM
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Once in a while the two Omni channels show up - usually late at night. They have not shown up in several weeks however.

36 is just outside my ability to receive. My tuners see it, and once in a while a picture will be there, but I've only been able to watch a couple shows and it has not shown up in several weeks either.

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Old 12-24-2011, 01:22 AM
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You surely aren't missing anything with 36.

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Old 12-24-2011, 07:07 AM
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Aside from the religious stuff on 36, they do air some classic tv shows like Gilligans Island, or should i dare say Grand Island.
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Like I said, you aren't missing much....................

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I watched an episode of Gilligan's Island and an episode of Alf.
Alf was actually quite funny.
Nothing I would DVR on a regular basis - but it would be nice to be able to pick up the channel.

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It's too bad that those on cable will never have access to Canadian channels,

Time Warner actually does provide CBLT and CFTO to the Buffalo market. CHCH is available on some other cable system in the southern tier. Sadly, Dish Network, DirecTV, and Verizon FiOS don't offer any Canadian channels.
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The satellite guys will never offer Canadian channels simply because they can't make a profit from providing them, plus it will utilize their precious bandwidth. I'm also thinking that they would have to blackout CFTO when the same show is on a local station in Buffalo. CBLT and TVO are the only stations that don't have any rights issues since they dont duplicate U.S. programming.
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Time Warner actually does provide CBLT and CFTO to the Buffalo market.

But only in down converted SD. And to boot, programs that are in HD are compressed horizontally. You will have to 'stretch' the image to widescreen for it to be in the proper aspect ratio.

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Time Warner actually does provide CBLT and CFTO to the Buffalo market. CHCH is available on some other cable system in the southern tier. Sadly, Dish Network, DirecTV, and Verizon FiOS don't offer any Canadian channels.

CHCH is offered, I believe, on TWC's Dunkirk/Fredonia system. At least it was last time I was there, a couple of years or so ago.

The system also had CBLT and CFTO.
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Reminder folks, Antenna tv begins tomorrow Jan 1, for those that care. WGRZ ch 2.2, and on Time Warner. I think us Canadian folk have more interest in this channel.
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I think us Canadian folk have more interest in this channel.

Major understatement.

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CHCH is offered, I believe, on TWC's Dunkirk/Fredonia system. At least it was last time I was there, a couple of years or so ago.

The system also had CBLT and CFTO.

Looks like CHCH is no longer on that system, but CBLT and CFTO are still there.
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Maybe they had trouble recieving it when they moved back to CH-11
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Loving the 3 Stooges Marathon on Channel 2.2!

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not a big fan of the stooges but cant wait till tomorrow for adam-12 and dragnet coming back.
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I've already set my TiVo up to record S.W.A.T. and The Monkees next weekend. I haven't seen either of those shows in something like 30 years.
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57 has been strong since the move.

My location @ 1300' elevation near the Boston Hills must really be an advantage.
Don't have to move my indoor antenna - just point it North-Northwest for great reception.

I get all of the following:

Canada: 5, 9, 11, 15, 19, 25, 41, 57
Buffalo: 2, 4, 7, 17, 23, 26, 29, 49, 67

It is interesting, using my older antennas - I don't pick up a single Canadian channel and have a tough time with channels 2 and 17. I am amazed at the difference the Clearstream 2 antenna makes.

Out of curiosity, do any of these channels carry the Sabres hockey games? Looking for alternatives since MSG is no longer on TWC . I too am in the Boston Hills.
Also, what receiver are you using?

Thank you.
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Really wishful thinking.

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FWIW, I did a little research on WBBZ, though not as popular here as it is up north (and west).

WBBZ's contact page (notice the address; out in Clarence or E. Amherst depending on which side of Transit they are on);
http://www.wbbz.tv/contact-us/

A concise history of the station and it's predecessors;
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/WBBZ-TV

Whatever happened back last fall, it was confirmed they are still on lower power and the "part" has been "on order". Also note, they have to protect another physical channel 7 east of their location SE of Fredonia, hence their ERP limitation.

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Really wishful thinking.

I figured as much, my hope was a Canadian OTA channel carried the games for fans there.
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