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Last year after a series of problems, an online electronics seller agreed to pay an extra $149 overnight shipping charge to ensure that an LCD TV got to me by Christmas. The carrier failed to send it overnight--it came 2 days later. The carrier, when I went down to their depot, said "I'd be mad too. But I can't make it appear by snapping my fingers." When it did show up, they didn't offer to refund the $149 or anything. Just business as sometimes usual.
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Sorry, Roland, I know that's a pain in the butt. Same thing happened with my Dell laptop, I ended up having to drive over at 8pm and wait for the driver to come in. Ironically, I worked as a supervisor for the next day and second day air section in Greensboro when I was in college. It should not have gotten pushed back. Keep us posted.

You've gotten my interest up about this pj. I've been reading some of the threads over in the >3500 forum about it. I don't think I'm a DLP guy until they have affordable 3 chip models due to rainbow sensitivity, but I'd still like to see what kind of progress they're making.
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Well it finally happened - they teased us with TWC on the INHD channels and today as I was perusing the channels they were "unauthorized" - I can't get them anymore - that is, unless I pay extra for these things

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Yeah, I called 2 CSRs until I found that they will be added with "a couple of more HD channels.
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They're going to be part of the HD Pack, INHD-INHD2-HDNet-HDNet Movies. Looks like folks are getting charged $5-$10 for it around the country.

They should have the HD DVR in the next month or so.
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The TWC site now has additional information, including what's in the HDTV "Pak" and what it will cost.

Finding their HTDV news on TWC's site is a challenge, but eventually you can get to the HDTV page. You have to travel through several links: It's under "Cable Services" then "Digital Cable" then HTDV, then several additional links until you land here

http://www.triadtwcable.com/cableserv/hdpack.htm


Here's the highlights:

Cost: $6.95 a month.
Contents of the "pak":

INHD and INHD2.
HDNet and HDNetMovies.

Plus "More HD channels will be added as they become available."

The HDTV channels we've been getting (UNC with their lovely giant LOGO, Discover, HBO, Showtime, and the networks will continue to be available as is...not in the new "pak"...also it appears NBA TV and Fox Sports Net will also remain included in the standard Digital "pak" cost.

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Good find, era. I'll definately plunk down the extra $7/month. I missed HDNet ever since I switched from DirecTV back to cable. It is right up there with DiscoveryHD as far as PQ.
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Yes, there's nothing like the quality of shows recorded directly in digital HDTV. I was curious to find out why Mark Cuban--who's such a big supporter of HDTV--permitted his stations to add a logo bug and thereby pretty much wreck the picture (for me anyway). He didn't explain why other networks do it, but he said he does it because his are new stations and he wants people watching the picture in stores to know what they're watching.
That doesn't explain why other, established stations do the same thing. Perhaps TV manufacturers could be persuaded to add a little LCD window somewhere on the set that displays the name of the current network (some shortwave radio stations can do this). Then the logos could go there and off the picture.
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WXLV has no plans to broadcast ABC in High Definition. Depending on your
location you may be able to pick up WTVD in Raleigh or WSOC in
Charlotte - - - Both stations broadcast ABC in High Definition.

The website says "Eventually we will also broadcast our signal in HDTV . .
.."

I don't mean to sound like a wise guy, eventually we will broadcast our
signal in HDTV - - - but not in the near future.

I understand that this answer will not satisfy you.



From the Sinclair web page:


If you are one of the lucky people who own a DTV receiver (either an actual
digital TV, or a digital receiver box), you can see ABC 45's programming on
digital channel 29, with images and sound of a higher quality than standard
analog TV. In addition, we will have the ability in the future to broadcast
alternate programming on our subchannels, numbered 29.1, 29.2, 29.3, 29.4
and 29.5. Eventually we will also broadcast our signal in HDTV, which stands
for High-definition Digital Television- a standard with even higher-quality
imaging and sound, as well as a widescreen format.

This sounds a lot like never to me.
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I've officially given up on xlv.
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Regarding TWC's HDTV on channels 560 and 561, they will only be used during sports games evidently.

Here is the message TWC sent about 560 and 561:

"The programming on channel 560 and 561 will only show if a game is available to view. December 3rd through April 2004, NBA HD will be offering sports programming on channel 560. Beginning in January 2004, Fox Cable Networks will be broadcasting regional NHL games on channel 561."

Here's the schedule that TWC kindly sent me for those who are interested in viewing these HDTV cable channels in the coming months:

NBA HD Games and Carolina Hurricanes HD Games
NBA HD Games shown on channel 560

Day of Week Date Time Team 1 Team 2
Wednesday 12/3/2003 8:30 PM L.A. Lakers San Antonio
Tuesday 12/9/2003 10:30 PM New York L.A. Lakers
Wednesday 12/10/2003 7:00 PM Orlando Washington
Tuesday 12/16/2003 7:30 PM Atlanta Miami
Sunday 12/21/2003 9:30 PM Phoenix L.A. Lakers
Monday 12/22/2003 7:00 PM Orlando Philadelphia
Tuesday 12/23/2003 7:30 PM Minnesota New York
Tuesday 12/30/2003 7:00 PM Atlanta Washington
Saturday 1/3/2004 10:00 PM Atlanta Denver
Sunday 1/4/2004 7:00 PM New Jersey New York
Tuesday 1/6/2004 8:30 PM Washington San Antonio
Saturday 1/17/2004 7:00 PM Seattle Washington
Saturday 1/24/2004 9:00 PM L.A. Lakers Utah
Monday 1/26/2004 9:00 PM Minnesota Denver
Tuesday 1/27/2004 7:00 PM New Jersey Philadelphia
Saturday 1/31/2004 7:30 PM Phoenix New York
Monday 2/2/2004 9:00 PM San Antonio Utah
Tuesday 2/3/2004 7:00 PM Toronto Philadelphia
Saturday 2/7/2004 8:00 PM New Orleans Milwaukee
Tuesday 2/17/2004 10:30 PM Portland L.A. Lakers
Saturday 2/21/2004 8:30 PM Houston Dallas
Monday 2/23/2004 7:00 PM Detroit Philadelphia
Tuesday 2/24/2004 7:00 PM Portland Orlando
Saturday 2/28/2004 8:00 PM Philadelphia Indiana
Monday 3/1/2004 8:30 PM Memphis San Antonio
Saturday 3/6/2004 9:00 PM San Antonio Phoenix
Monday 3/8/2004 7:00 PM Milwaukee Philadelphia
Tuesday 3/9/2004 7:30 PM Boston New York
Wednesday 3/10/2004 7:00 PM Washington Orlando
Friday 3/12/2004 7:00 PM New York Philadelphia
Tuesday 3/16/2004 7:30 PM Washington New York
Monday 3/22/2004 7:00 PM Dallas Philadelphia
Tuesday 3/23/2004 8:00 PM San Antonio Minnesota
Sunday 3/28/2004 4:00 PM Houston Milwaukee
Tuesday 3/30/2004 8:00 PM Indiana Milwaukee
Wednesday 3/31/2004 8:30 PM Sacramento San Antonio
Saturday 4/10/2004 7:00 PM Detroit Orlando
Tuesday 4/13/2004 8:30 PM Memphis Dallas


Carolina Hurricanes games will be shown on channel 561

Day of Week Date Time Team 1 Team 2
Tuesday 1/6/2004 7:00 PM St. Louis Carolina
Thursday 1/15/2004 7:00 PM Tampa Bay Carolina
Saturday 1/31/2004 7:00 PM Detroit Carolina
Tuesday 2/3/2004 9:00 PM Colorado Carolina
Thursday 2/12/2004 7:00 PM Washington Carolina
Thursday 2/19/2004 7:00 PM Toronto Carolina
Saturday 2/21/2004 7:00 PM Boston Carolina
Tuesday 3/2/2004 7:00 PM Columbus Carolina
Saturday 3/13/2004 7:30 PM Tampa Bay Carolina
Tuesday 3/23/2004 7:00 PM Philadelphia Carolina
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I've emailed and asked them to clarify. Basically, they've taken away INHD & INHD2 until they give it back to us later as the HD Pack bundled with the HDNet and HDNet Movies. She said she hoped by the end of the month, but they're still working out the contract with HDNet.

Too bad I hate basketball and hockey.
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Yeah, I was also told that the "HD Pack" would be in place by 2/1. I guess they're going to be on different channels? I really didn't mind having them shared with FOXHD & NBAHD.
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Yes, I've always thought basketball was no fun to watch. A very strange game, with too many rules about the way you can move and so on. It's rather mechanical, like pinball or something. I don't know. I like elemental games with few rules, like Aussie football or boxing.
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I just wish TWC would add the Raleigh ABC affiliate to the lineup - I know they can't/won't, but a girl can dream! Sinclair is just not getting it!

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roland,
Did you get the BenQ yet? I'm anxious to hear your thoughts on it.

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Yeah, we were in Raleigh over the weekend and for a brief moment I considered moving there just for the HD!
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We watched the Panthers game Sat night on XLV and it was tolerable (barely), but I am thrilled to know the Super Bowl will be on WFMY.

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I was pretty bummed when I found out the Panthers were in HD, but that we couldn't get it.
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Stinks, doesn't it?

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Yeah, I think I'm going to send xlv another constructive email just to make me feel better.
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Sounds good to me...

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Is anyone receiving our local DT channels OTA? I would be interested in your experience.
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Is anyone receiving our local DT channels OTA? I would be interested in your experience.

I am receiving them all with a Samsung SIR-TS160 and a Channel Master 4228 with a RS pre-amp at 15 ft on the north side of Greensboro.

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Anyone getting the ABC out of Charlotte or Raleigh? My email to XLV today came back with the same reply, no plans to offer HD, see if you can pick up the Charlotte or Raleigh affiliates. Boy, those guys are really making me mad.
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foxeng,
Are you having any picture breakup and audio dropout problems? I have a Sony HD 300 receiver and at times, such as the Bronco/Colt game on WFMY yesterday, the problem was frequent enough that I gave up and swithced to satellite. I thought that possibly my problem was tall trees around my house but a friend of mine with no trees and a Hughes receiver was having the same problem simultaneous with my problem. My signal strength meter on the receiver shows a "good" signal most of the time but intermittently it drops off to bad to no signal as the problem occurs.
I would guess that I am about the same distance from WFMY as you are from WXII and WUNL, that is 30 miles and 25 miles respectively. Certainly the 4228 should do a good job considering its specs. I am not familiar with the RS pre-amp. Is RS a brand? I assume you are using a rotator, yes? About how long is your cable run? Where did you get your equipment? Thanks for your help.
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Anyone getting the ABC out of Charlotte or Raleigh? My email to XLV today came back with the same reply, no plans to offer HD, see if you can pick up the Charlotte or Raleigh affiliates. Boy, those guys are really making me mad.

I don't see WSOC-DT 34 Charlotte at all, but I do see WTVD-DT 52 (11-1) most of the time here. People in Winston-Salem get WSOC-DT with no problem, but do not see WTVD-DT.

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Are you having any picture breakup and audio dropout problems? I have a Sony HD 300 receiver and at times, such as the Bronco/Colt game on WFMY yesterday, the problem was frequent enough that I gave up and swithced to satellite. I thought that possibly my problem was tall trees around my house but a friend of mine with no trees and a Hughes receiver was having the same problem simultaneous with my problem. My signal strength meter on the receiver shows a "good" signal most of the time but intermittently it drops off to bad to no signal as the problem occurs.
I would guess that I am about the same distance from WFMY as you are from WXII and WUNL, that is 30 miles and 25 miles respectively. Certainly the 4228 should do a good job considering its specs. I am not familiar with the RS pre-amp. Is RS a brand? I assume you are using a rotator, yes? About how long is your cable run? Where did you get your equipment? Thanks for your help.
By the way, have you received much response to a meeting?
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I have noticed if the wind is blowing, I will have drop outs on WXII-DT and WFMY-DT is a hit and miss thing. I didn't see any of the Bronco's/Colt"s game, but tonight on CSI:Miami there was considerable macroblocking, the worst I have seen on WFMY, and it was on everything from CBS. Since they didn't switch to any local stuff, I don't know if it was their sat feed or my receiver.

I personally have been suspect of their network feed. I have seen macroblocking on some shows and then switch to WDBJ-DT Roanoke and not see it. I am assuming they are receiving their HD signal the same way they get their SD signal. Because of terrestrial interference (TI) at Phillips Ave on their CBS dish, they have had their CBS dish at their transmitter at Level Cross for many years and microwave it back to Phillips Ave. I am assuming they are doing the same thing with the HD signal and that may cause additional problems not seen with other CBS' like WDBJ-DT and WRAL-DT. I don't know. I have seen break up on WFMY-DT when my flee powered signal was solid and it should be the other way around when you figure that we are running 4200 watts at 900 ft and WFMY-DT is running 500,000 watts at 1900 ft. They are using a different encoder than we are and I know it is an earlier generation than ours. That too may have something to do with it. Again I don't know.

My antenna setup is pretty crappy by design. When I put it up in April of 2002, it was to mimic a worst case antenna setup and still pick up WGHP-DT. I run 100 ft of crappy RG-59 (I only need 50 ft) and a cheap Radio Shack (RS) pre-amp that gets overloaded easily and it is mounted on a not so stable tower section lashed to my fence at 15 ft up and so every time the wind blows, the antenna blows around pretty good and I get bad drop outs then. Worst of the worst and I do OK. I am getting tired of the break ups so when the weather breaks, I am going to install it on the roof with a good Winegard pre-amp that I have and about 50 ft of sat quality RG-6 so my reception should improve even more.

I have noticed if the antenna is not pretty flat to horizontal, it will break up pretty good. It could be you are also having multipath issues. Best way to check is look at an analog signal on your antenna and if you see lots of ghosts on channel 48 analog that could be a factor as well. (Use channel 48 analog since it is beside WFMY's tower and WFMY's DT channel is 51, so it is in the same RF neighborhood. Comparing channel 2 analog with channel 51 digital is no comparison since channel 2 exhibits completely different propagation characteristics than any UHF channel.

I would start with that. Those are the most obvious and easy to check.

And no, I haven't heard anymore on a get together. I would hope now that the holidays are over, maybe we can get together, (a Super Bowl Party at someone's house who has a theater they want to show off or something?) or a restaurant. I defer to others on that.

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Here's my second reply from WXLV after I told them that they were losing viewers and that they should at least pass on our requests to the parent company. Sounds like a load of bull to me. FYI

"Thanks for your message. All messages from viewers are forwarded to our corporate VP. Sinclair has opposed the format the FCC picked for HDTV (8-VSB) and prefers the European/Japan HDTV standard of CODFM -- - which Sinclair feels is better quality, more reliable, and fits in with a world wide standard format. There are several forms of analog TV: NTSC (used in the US), PAL, Secam, among others. This incompatibility has caused many problems for broadcasters, manufactures, and most of all consumers. A world wide standard of analog TV broadcasting would have brought down the cost of analog TV. Sinclair would prefer there were one standard format for HDTV. In addition, Like the BETA/VHS issue - - - where BETA was the highest quality format, but VHS eventually won out - - - the company is concerned about making a LARGE investment in unproven technology - - - which may become obsolete very quickly.

Sinclair revisits the HDTV issue on a regular basis and when they decide it is cost effective will offer ABC in High Definition."
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This is the note I received from XLV after I emailed them with my frustrations...

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"You won't like this answer:

WXLV has no plans to broadcast ABC in High Definition. Depending on your
location you may be able to pick up WTVD in Raleigh or WSOC in
Charlotte. Both stations broadcast ABC in High Definition. OTA is an
option, you just need toa add a switch bewteen cable and the antenna.

The owners are reviewing this decision and it is possible that it might
change.


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Jack O'Doherty
WXLV/WUPN Engineering
v336-722-4545 f336-723-8217
jodohert@sbgnet.com"

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Yeah, that's similar to the first one I received. When I sent the second one I explained that those of us early HD adopters were quite often those in higher income brackets and thus desirable to their advertisers. I also pointed out that I'll watch any other station in HD over anything WXLV has in SD. That's when I got the second longer reply. I think Sinclair is just cheap and they're trying to milk every last cent out of analog before they make the jump.
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