Greensboro, NC - HDTV - Page 385 - AVS Forum | Home Theater Discussions And Reviews
Baselworld is only a few weeks away. Getting the latest news is easy, Click Here for info on how to join the Watchuseek.com newsletter list. Follow our team for updates featuring event coverage, new product unveilings, watch industry news & more!


Forum Jump: 
 10Likes
Reply
 
Thread Tools
post #11521 of 11535 Old 06-30-2015, 04:33 PM
Senior Member
 
SVTarHeel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Watching WGHP in SD via DirecTV. Re: the hitch that appears when the weather alerts come up - is it present in other viewing options or is it just ours?
SVTarHeel is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #11522 of 11535 Old 07-01-2015, 09:33 AM
Newbie
 
Rodwalls's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: King, North Carolina
Posts: 9
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 1 Post(s)
Liked: 10
I live in Stokes County (King area); but I was wondering if anyone else has been able to pickup
WFFP-TV Danville / Roanoke / Lynchburg, Virginia, 24.1 (COZI TV)?
I can pick it up most of the time with the antenna I am currently using, but it seems to fade some after dark. This to my knowledge is the closest Cozi-tv that we have in the area.
It will also soon have Movies on 24.2. Just thought I would ask.
thanks Rhw
Rodwalls is offline  
post #11523 of 11535 Old 07-01-2015, 02:02 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
foxeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Where ever I am is where I am.
Posts: 14,086
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked: 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVTarHeel View Post
Watching WGHP in SD via DirecTV. Re: the hitch that appears when the weather alerts come up - is it present in other viewing options or is it just ours?
Hitch? Can you explain what you are seeing and what programming you are seeing it in?

All opinions expressed (unless otherwise noted) are the posters and NOT the posters employers. The poster in NO WAY is/will speak for his employers.
foxeng is offline  
post #11524 of 11535 Old 07-01-2015, 02:21 PM
Senior Member
 
SVTarHeel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Quote:
Originally Posted by foxeng View Post
Hitch? Can you explain what you are seeing and what programming you are seeing it in?
The most recent example was during the Women's World Cup game, USA v. Germany. The announcers would be talking along... "That was a good play.." then the weather alert graphics come up, the picture freaks out for a sec while it's resized and then you hear "... good play" again before it continues along normally. There's also an annoying video hitch when the weather alert goes away but it's not accompanied by any repeated or missed words.

This same hiccup was also present during the US Open telecasts from the previous weekend. In fact, I remember it from months ago but I don't remember if it was DirecTV's SD or HD feed we were watching at the time. I've just gotten used to it always being the case on WGHP. But, it seemed more pronounced last night, so I thought you might like to know about it.

The other odd thing is that I don't see a corresponding issue when the weather alerts pop up during WXII & WFMY programming.
SVTarHeel is offline  
post #11525 of 11535 Old 07-05-2015, 05:08 PM
Senior Member
 
SVTarHeel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 10
During the World Cup game just now, the weather alert came up at like 8:02. This time, when it went off, the video hitch moved forward to the point that a second or two of both video and audio was cut. The beginning had a very minimal repeat though.
SVTarHeel is offline  
post #11526 of 11535 Old 07-10-2015, 07:41 AM
AVS Addicted Member
 
foxeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Where ever I am is where I am.
Posts: 14,086
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked: 42
Because of the use of the FOX splicer, we have to drop back to local to add the crawls. Because of the way we have to do it, the timing is slightly off between the splicer video and the crawl with network video. That is what you are seeing. We have worked on that for years. I would hope that in the near and not far future, FOX would reconsider the use of the splicer. It was great technology back when most stations have analog master controls and to be able to cheaply put HD on the air was king. Now a days only your smallest of small stations do not have HD master controls. The Splicer's time has come and gone. Even the FOX O&O's in New York and LA have this same issue, how to put crawls on the air while in network.

All opinions expressed (unless otherwise noted) are the posters and NOT the posters employers. The poster in NO WAY is/will speak for his employers.
foxeng is offline  
post #11527 of 11535 Old 07-10-2015, 08:47 AM
Advanced Member
 
ejb1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NW VT
Posts: 760
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Liked: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by foxeng View Post
Because of the use of the FOX splicer, we have to drop back to local to add the crawls. Because of the way we have to do it, the timing is slightly off between the splicer video and the crawl with network video. That is what you are seeing. We have worked on that for years. I would hope that in the near and not far future, FOX would reconsider the use of the splicer. It was great technology back when most stations have analog master controls and to be able to cheaply put HD on the air was king. Now a days only your smallest of small stations do not have HD master controls. The Splicer's time has come and gone. Even the FOX O&O's in New York and LA have this same issue, how to put crawls on the air while in network.
And WFXT Boston and WFFF Burlington VT have the same skip back! WFXT's skip back is much longer than I remember on WGHP or anywhere else and it does it at every local commercial break during Fox programming. Do any Fox stations not do that?
ejb1980 is offline  
post #11528 of 11535 Old 07-10-2015, 02:09 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
foxeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Where ever I am is where I am.
Posts: 14,086
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked: 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post
And WFXT Boston and WFFF Burlington VT have the same skip back! WFXT's skip back is much longer than I remember on WGHP or anywhere else and it does it at every local commercial break during Fox programming. Do any Fox stations not do that?
Sounds like their insertion time is wrong. There is a window there for splicing to net and splicing to local. If the window isn't adjusted correctly, weird things can happen. It is suppose to happen during the black between segments so you don't see any buffering lag that might be there. During a crawl cut-in, you will see it since there is no black to hide it.

All opinions expressed (unless otherwise noted) are the posters and NOT the posters employers. The poster in NO WAY is/will speak for his employers.

Last edited by foxeng; 07-10-2015 at 02:13 PM.
foxeng is offline  
post #11529 of 11535 Old 07-11-2015, 10:26 AM
AVS Special Member
 
veedon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Raleigh,NC
Posts: 1,180
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 405 Post(s)
Liked: 158
Boo to the national network bigwigs who force feed us Yankees versus Red Sox all the time.
This map is outrageous.

http://506sports.com/
veedon is online now  
post #11530 of 11535 Old 07-13-2015, 11:10 AM
Senior Member
 
SVTarHeel's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: Winston-Salem, NC
Posts: 326
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 14 Post(s)
Liked: 10
Does anyone know the current status of Clear QAM channel availability for the Triad via TWC?
SVTarHeel is offline  
post #11531 of 11535 Old 07-13-2015, 01:51 PM
AVS Addicted Member
 
foxeng's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Where ever I am is where I am.
Posts: 14,086
Mentioned: 1 Post(s)
Tagged: 1 Thread(s)
Quoted: 91 Post(s)
Liked: 42
Quote:
Originally Posted by SVTarHeel View Post
Does anyone know the current status of Clear QAM channel availability for the Triad via TWC?
Locals definitely and some random tier channels that come and go.

All opinions expressed (unless otherwise noted) are the posters and NOT the posters employers. The poster in NO WAY is/will speak for his employers.
foxeng is offline  
post #11532 of 11535 Old 07-15-2015, 01:06 PM
Advanced Member
 
ejb1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NW VT
Posts: 760
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Liked: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by veedon View Post
Boo to the national network bigwigs who force feed us Yankees versus Red Sox all the time.
This map is outrageous.

http://506sports.com/
False. It's FAR from all the time. When I lived in NC, the lack of Yankees and Red Sox made me get the Directv Deportes pack because their cable Fox Deportes would show more of those games. I remember Fox 50 would show them more than Fox 8, but not much. Fox either needs to do all of those games nationally (they DO have FS1 and FS2 to stick things on) or not do them at all. At least they are all on MLB EI now.

That being said, Greensboro (and all of NC) is technically in the Nats and Orioles territory, but TWC doesn't carry the networks (MASN/MASN2) those games are on so only satellite will get you all your local RSNs - FS South, SportSouth, FS Carolinas, MASN, and their alternates. With Sports Pack, you get all the Reds on FS Cin, too. I guess you "should" have had the Wash/Balt game, but Red Sox/Yankees is much more interesting.
ejb1980 is offline  
post #11533 of 11535 Old 07-15-2015, 06:30 PM
AVS Special Member
 
veedon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Raleigh,NC
Posts: 1,180
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 405 Post(s)
Liked: 158
Yeah, well. Most North Carolinians don't give a hoot about either the Yankees or the Red Sox, but every time they play each other, if it's on a Saturday when FOX is broadcasting games OTA, there's a good chance our area will wind up with those teams. I miss the days when the TV networks had more variety in the teams they showed. Why not let the east coast see the Royals or Twins occasionally? Why not occasionally have the whole nation see the same game, like back when ABC had Monday Night Baseball?
veedon is online now  
post #11534 of 11535 Old Today, 11:42 AM
Advanced Member
 
ejb1980's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: NW VT
Posts: 760
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 54 Post(s)
Liked: 25
Quote:
Originally Posted by veedon View Post
Yeah, well. Most North Carolinians don't give a hoot about either the Yankees or the Red Sox, but every time they play each other, if it's on a Saturday when FOX is broadcasting games OTA, there's a good chance our area will wind up with those teams. I miss the days when the TV networks had more variety in the teams they showed. Why not let the east coast see the Royals or Twins occasionally? Why not occasionally have the whole nation see the same game, like back when ABC had Monday Night Baseball?
Source? Here's one that shows that most of NC (notably the Greensboro area) favors the Yankees. Red Sox or Braves second/third. No one team dominates like a market with a local team, but why wouldn't they show what is clearly most popular? It's not like you're getting the Jets-Patriots over the Panthers.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...eball-map.html

In my experience, I knew a lot of Red Sox, Braves, and Yankees fans with the occasional Reds or Orioles thrown in in NC. Many were native NC folks, too.

I agree that the games should be made available nationally, kind of like ABC/ESPN share games regionally.

Last edited by ejb1980; Today at 11:53 AM.
ejb1980 is offline  
post #11535 of 11535 Old Today, 08:27 PM
AVS Special Member
 
veedon's Avatar
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Raleigh,NC
Posts: 1,180
Mentioned: 0 Post(s)
Tagged: 0 Thread(s)
Quoted: 405 Post(s)
Liked: 158
Quote:
Originally Posted by ejb1980 View Post
Source? Here's one that shows that most of NC (notably the Greensboro area) favors the Yankees. Red Sox or Braves second/third. No one team dominates like a market with a local team, but why wouldn't they show what is clearly most popular? It's not like you're getting the Jets-Patriots over the Panthers.

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...eball-map.html
Well, that map is based on Facebook likes, so it might not reflect the opinions of the overall viewing public. But even if we accept that the map is a reasonable gauge of viewer preferences, what the NC portion of the map says to me is that this is not a pro baseball state. Rather than catering to the Yankee and Red Sox fans in our midst, MLB and FOX should accept lower ratings now in the interest of building higher interest in baseball down the road. One way to do that would be featuring a wide variety of teams in an effort to get casual fans to watch out of just curiosity. Right now, I bet a lot of marginally interested fans see Yankees versus Red Sox on the schedule once again and decide they'd rather just not watch baseball at all.
veedon is online now  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply Local HDTV Info and Reception



Forum Jump: 

Posting Rules  
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off