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post #541 of 2385 Old 02-08-2005, 01:54 PM
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For KTMJ, they are a Class A (?) station and their digital channel assingments haven't even been made yet. I think I heard that a Class A station in Florida asked for a digital channel and just recently got one.
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Haven't heard. They're so low budget, they might dump before the mandate hits. Speaking of the FCC mandate, when is the date now? I've heard rumors as late as 2009 now...and correct me if I'm wrong, but that's just to be digital right? Not that they have to be transmitting in HD by then.

There is no mandate anyone HAS to do HD. Just digital.
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I heard from a guy I know who just went to work for them overnight on the weekends. He says they don't even have any digital equipment. They play programs off of home DVD players too and the old shows are on some sort of big tape he said he'd used when he was in school. They got no digital allotment from the FCC and won't get one in the near future. I guess this means no Fox HD for us for a while. Also said the girl engineer was some trade school newbie too.
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Hopefully when the digital white area gets solved, we will be able to get FOX-HD programming for another source. If our local station does not want to provide it, then we should be able to get it from DIRECTV or DISH. I would guess that even cable would be able to provide an FOX-HD feed from someone.
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Since Cox has WDAF, (Fox channel 4), from K. City already, I'm surprised that they aren't showing the WDAF HD feed as Time Warner is showing in the K. City area.
Really it's a shame that KTMJ has made no move towards digital/HD broadcasting. Perhaps they don't understand that it is HD that is bringing people like myself back to network TV. BUT, I'll go where the HD is, and if KTMJ won't supply me with the best quality I'll look to the other networks or satellite.
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post #546 of 2385 Old 02-18-2005, 01:56 PM
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WIBW-DT for the first time that I have seen was stretching local programming (local commercials and news) on Thursday night. I wonder (hope) that this is preparing them to go to HD for local news.

Also be sure to watch WIBW news at 10 starting tonight to win an HDTV. I can't win so I hope one of you guys do.

http://www.wibw.com/unclassified/1249182.html
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BJS188,
Yes I also saw that last night they were up-converting their local non-HD programming to 1080i and 16:9. There were a lot of video artifacts that I noticed; (primarily linear pink or green 'lines' stretching from one side of the screen to the other at times, as well as the occasional A/V sync problem), but I can certainly forgive them those minor glitches as they are still early in the up-conversion process.
WIBW really ought to be congratulated for the excellent job they've done here in Topeka both being the first to bring us HD, and now the first to begin to display their local programming in 16:9, 1080i. They leave behind all of their 'peers' in the Topeka market re: their commitment to 'digital' TV.
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I hate to burst any bubbles but I think WIBW DT is actually having HD problems and that is why seeing the SD material stretched rather than the prior practice of upconverting their SD. I e-mailed them Sunday night when the Grammys was not shown in HD. They responded with this:
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While conducting a monthly test early Friday morning we experienced a power surge that disabled one of our HD cards.

What I have seen in terms of SD material this week has not been very good at all. Strangely enough do seem to be showing the CBS HD material fine. I also asked about the news going HD and their response was someday but wouldn't expect it for some time.

I agree they are a local leader in HD and I am really hoping for great things from them. Unfortunately this doesn't seem to be it.

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It's interesting what you say about WIBW, and the recent 16:9 ratio on their local material.

Here is why I assumed that they were beginning to up-convert the 1080i/4:3 to 1080i/16:9:

I use a Sony HD300 to receive my locals, including WIBW 13.1, (44), OTA. It feeds my plasma via Auto-DVI and hence will only output 480p and 1080i as my Panny plasma does not accept 720p.

Now, when the Panny receives a 480p broadcast, I'm able to use multiple 're-sizing' modes, BUT when it receives a 1080i broadcast, it only allows Shrink, Standard and Expand. I have only been able to use the later, (1080i), modes when viewing WIBW regardless of whether they were broadcasting the local programming in 4:3 or the recent 16:9. Therefore, I was thinking that they are simply broadcasting SD local in 1080i, BUT had begun to convert that broadcast from 4:3 to 16:9.

It would be great if someone from the station engineering dept. would actually let us know what 'resolution' and format the local programming is being sent out in. It certainly looks very good considering it is not captured in HD; (except for the video artifacts and A/V sync issues of course).
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I'm becoming increasingly frustrated with KTMJ Fox Topeka. Not only are they not doing HD (obviously), but now we're unable to even enjoy the SD programming. We don't watch that many things on Fox, but one of them is American Idol (as much as I hate to admit it in a public forum). The poor video quality is one thing, but the last several shows have been coming through (via Cox digital cable) so distorted on the audio side that the show is hardly watchable. The audio is pretty damn important for a singing show! I don't think it's my setup, since I haven't noticed this problem on other channels. Anyone else having problems?
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I noticed tonight the audio on KTMJ on Cox was pretty bad. I though it was just my TV.
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I get KTMJ on DIRECTV and the sound is horrible also. It is about 3 times louder than other stations. Also WIBW has a bad hiss in the left channel. I don't watch it much since I get channel 44 OTA.
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Has anyone ever applied for and been granted waivers from KTMJ to obtain Fox HD programming from either Dish or Directv?

If so, did you have the Sat co. petition KTMJ for the waiver, or did you contact the station yourself?

TIA,
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I have VOOM and am wanting to get the KC HD Locals... I live in the 17th and Fairlawn area.... What kind of antenna and booster will allow me to do this? If I am correct then I think Topeka has 2 HD stations (CBS and NBC) and KC has them all (FOX, ABC, CBS and NBC)....

I have a channel master now but will upgrade the antenna if needed...

Thanks in advance!
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I live just west of 29th and Fairlawn and have had no luck picking up Kansas City stations. However, I only have an indoor antenna. A co-worker who lives east of Croco Rd does pick up ABC from Kansas City. FOX in KC is low power so you will have no luck picking them up.

Topeka also has PBS in HD on channel 23.1.
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Ok thanks.... I was hoping to get ABC HD and FOX HD for football season...
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You can get ABC in a digital format here in Topeka; unfortunately they are only broadcasting at low power and in 480i. Their stated plans are to be in HD by the end of the year.
KTMJ has announced no plans and have not even applied for a digital license as far as we know.
WDAF is only broadcasting in low power, and can only be received via an OTA antenna within approximately 10 miles of its transmission tower per reports. Hopefully when they go to full power, there is a chance of being able to receive a signal here, IF you have a good, large and directional antenna.
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I currently have VOOM with their standard antenna mounted on my roof and receive NBC, CBS, PBS from Topeka in HD and ABC from Topeka in digital. I also receive ABC in HD from K.C. I live about a mile northeast of 29th and Croco. I have also heard the same things about the other KC stations being so weak that most of K.C. can't even pick them up.
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We just replaced our upscaler card for SDI-HD. We had to use a
1080i 16x9 up converter until we received the new card. We are back
to up converting our SD 4:3 and passing network in 1080i 16:9. We did
have some positive feedback on the 16:9 but most feedback was negative for
users that did not like the artifacts and so called screen stretching. We will
be upgrading our antenna in June and will be installing Dolby 5.1E too.


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be upgrading our antenna in June and will be installing Dolby 5.1E too.


Thanks for the update. When you say the above, does that include a power increase also?
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Yes, from 93ERP to around 200ERP
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Yes, from 93ERP to around 200ERP
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Very nice.
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Originally posted by wibw13
We just replaced our upscaler card for SDI-HD. We had to use a
1080i 16x9 up converter until we received the new card. We are back
to up converting our SD 4:3 and passing network in 1080i 16:9. We did
have some positive feedback on the 16:9 but most feedback was negative for
users that did not like the artifacts and so called screen stretching. We will
be upgrading our antenna in June and will be installing Dolby 5.1E too.


I am very dissappointed that you have decided not to continue to upconvert your SD programming to a 16:9 format. It not only looked great but is far better for most digital displays in that with the screen 'full', there is no chance for 'burn-in' on those displays prone to it, (especially plasmas). The stretching 'artifacts' were minimal at best, and were probably worse for those individuals whose sets are a native 4:3 ratio. Since most digital sets sold in the last year, (and hence the majority of digital sets therefore in people's homes), are now using the 'widescreen', 16:9 ratio, it only makes sense for you to broadcast all of your programming in that format.

There were some video dropouts noticeable initially, however these decreased dramatically over time. There was a slight A/V sync issue, but that also could have been easily addressed. I hope that you will re-consider this decision. Otherwise WIBW are setting the standard for all other Topeka stations to follow; keep up the great work. We appreciate it!!
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Not to include peoples personal lives in this forum, but I was getting ready to email Fox 43 about their Royals schedule for this upcoming season, and noticed that our friend, Jeff Groves, formerly of WIBW is now chief engineer at KTMJ. So maybe he is getting them in gear for going digital. I know he was a big part of the WIBW digital beginning.
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It's great to see a WIBW representative on the forum! Thumbs up to WIBW for doing a useful multicast and keeping an HD game on the HD channel, but was anyone else finding the W. Virginia - Wake Forest game nearly unwatchable due to break-ups, etc. I had freezing, blocking, and sometimes an eventual black screen. I don't know it it was related to the multicast or a problem with Cox. Normally the channel is pretty darn stable.
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Thank you channel 13 for the information. You are, as always, the leader. At the risk of sounding stupid, what is dolby 5.1E ? Steve
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There is discrete channel soundtracks encoded to the AC-3 bit stream so that the sound is heard through the five main speakers and a sub-woofer. Each speaker is independent of the others and has it's own track. The result is the greatest degree of realism that can currently be found. This audio format comes in two basic varieties, Dolby 5.1 and DTS Six Channel.
CBS currently is using 5.1E
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Watching the NCAA tourney on Sunflower Broadband in Lawrence, I now realize that I've never heard anything from my center channel or surrounds when watching programming on WIBW. It's just 2 channel stereo. Interestingly, both the digital guide and my receiver indicate that it's 5.1, but three speakers are silent. The mix is perfect (center & surrounds) on the three KC stations (NBC, ABC, FOX), and all of the premiums. WIBW has never had anything but 2.0. What's up?
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