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Thanks Trip, that clarifies some questions I had.

Is it safe to assume that no Mobile stations will be moving to VHF in the repack?
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Thanks Trip, that clarifies some questions I had.

Is it safe to assume that no Mobile stations will be moving to VHF in the repack?
According to RabbitEars, there will be quite a bit of movement, but nothing new in VHF.
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So Nexstar owns channels 25 and 27 in Mobile. The repack moves 27 to 20 and 25 to 27. Why not just leave 27 alone and move 25 to 20? Wouldn't that save Nexstar a whole lot of cash?
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Since the FCC is paying for it, it won't cost Nexstar anything.

In any case, it would put WKRG too close to WWL which is being repacked to 27.

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Will WPAN still technically be required to use virtual channel 53 even though they've never used a virtual channel number before?
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I was able to receive a signal from a station named "WGOX-TV" (its call letters were listed as WGOX-LD on the official World Wide Web site for the Federal Communications Commission) on radio frequency channel 43 (this was also its virtual channel number) for the first time (from Mobile) last Sunday, but never any programming from it on the channel itself since then (there appeared to be an official Facebook page for the station and a live video stream for it).
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I was able to receive a signal from a station named "WGOX-TV" (its call letters were listed as WGOX-LD on the official World Wide Web site for the Federal Communications Commission) on radio frequency channel 43 (this was also its virtual channel number) for the first time (from Mobile) last Sunday, but never any programming from it on the channel itself since then (there appeared to be an official Facebook page for the station and a live video stream for it).
Interesting… The current licensed pattern according to RECnet is a pencil-thin beam from Berrydale in Florida towards Jay and Flomaton. They have a CP from Spanish Fort, though, so if the signal has been constant I bet they're testing that facility. I wouldn't have thought in a million years they'd ever build it, though.

Edit to add: I tried several different antenna positions, got nothing here in Foley.

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I am picturing Tom Servo with his hand on a rotator control, carefully scanning the airwaves for signs of heretofore unknown broadcast signals!

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I was able to receive a signal from a station named "WGOX-TV" (its call letters were listed as WGOX-LD on the official World Wide Web site for the Federal Communications Commission) on radio frequency channel 43 (this was also its virtual channel number) for the first time (from Mobile) last Sunday, but never any programming from it on the channel itself since then (there appeared to be an official Facebook page for the station and a live video stream for it).
I believe this station is the long-time coming reincarnation of W50CF that was forced off the air when WFGX fired up their full-power digital signal. When I've attempted to pick it up, all i've seen was what appeared to be a roku feed set to the Word of Life church...the ministry that ran W50CF and now appears to be on WGOX-LD.

I'll be happy to be an antenna user again once I move out of my black hole that barely picks up WKRG on a good day. My new location gets EVERYTHING including all of the Biloxi locals!
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I believe this station is the long-time coming reincarnation of W50CF that was forced off the air when WFGX fired up their full-power digital signal. When I've attempted to pick it up, all i've seen was what appeared to be a roku feed set to the Word of Life church...the ministry that ran W50CF and now appears to be on WGOX-LD.

I'll be happy to be an antenna user again once I move out of my black hole that barely picks up WKRG on a good day. My new location gets EVERYTHING including all of the Biloxi locals!
I take it you're on the west side of Mobile, then?

In my seven years and change in Baldwin County, I've never gotten anything except locals, even during decent skip conditions on FM. Granted I don't have anything better than a small amplified indoor antenna, but it's surprising how little it picks up. WALA and WFNA are difficult, WDPM is almost impossible, and I still haven't even seen a peep from WGOX-LD yet.

What I wouldn't give to be able to climb to the top of one of the tall condos in Gulf Shores with a portable digital TV and see what it can pick up. In the old analog days I remember Dothan being a daily presence on multiple channels as well as the occasional Montgomery signal from atop the sixth floor stairwell at the condo my parents would get every year.
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I live in Pensacola and when I scan, I get 40 channels, but only 32 are channels that I watch. Some of the others are not on the air in my area or are religious channels(which are OK, but I do not watch). How many watchable channel do you guys in Mobile or Panama City get. I have an outdoor amplified antenna.

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I'm in Baldwin County with an unamplified indoor antenna and get about 35 channels reliably, counting the religious stuff I don't watch. I don't get any low power channels at all and barely get WALA. When you exclude the duplicate PBS channels from mobile and Pensacola and exclude the religious channels that leaves about 23 channels, which isn't too bad. I have satellite so the only time I watch OTA TV is if there's something on one of the PBS subchannels or I'm just surfing to kill time. I tend to gravitate towards MeTV, Laff and Comet.

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My scan picks up 31 channels, but I have my Tivo Roamio and HD Homerun tuner set to receive 23 of them.

I am only a stone's throw from the towers from WKRG, WALA, WEIQ, and whatever channel shares WALA's tower (WFNA?). But I am close enough to every other local station to get a perfect, unwavering signal on all of them, theoretically. I mostly do, but WSRE has always been a little too weak to stay tuned, and either atmospheric or weather conditions can sometimes interfere with WEAR and WJCT.

Digital signal or not, the choice of UHF frequencies for most digital stations brings back some issues that have always plagued those frequencies in broadcast usage. Antenna placement is everything, and sometimes even a slight variation in location can make a big difference. I am still experimenting in my attic.

I used to have big problems with WKRG. It was not signal strength. I have signal strength out the wazoo. I moved the antenna to a different part of the attic, and now, I never have problems with it. A large tree in the my front yard was the culprit.

I am sure placing my antenna outside would help greatly, but I have not seen fit to do that yet.

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I used to have big problems with WKRG. It was not signal strength. I have signal strength out the wazoo. I moved the antenna to a different part of the attic, and now, I never have problems with it. A large tree in the my front yard was the culprit.
I used to have problems with WKRG too, despite the gangbusters signal. It was constantly macroblocking and breaking up on the main channel, but never on MeTV when it was on 5.2. It seemed to go away completely when they added ion to 5.2. I put my antenna in all kinds of places and always had a really good (90-100%) signal, so it couldn't have been that. I think they might have had an encoder issue.
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I am only a stone's throw from the towers from WKRG, WALA, WEIQ, and whatever channel shares WALA's tower (WFNA?). But I am close enough to every other local station to get a perfect, unwavering signal on all of them, theoretically. I mostly do, but WSRE has always been a little too weak to stay tuned, and either atmospheric or weather conditions can sometimes interfere with WEAR and WJCT.
Did you mean WJTC?
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Yes. I get those letters transposed all the time.

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A signal too strong can cause problems also. My amplifier adjust the strength for each signal to get the best reception, how, I do not know.

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I had clear and stable reception of the digital TV signal for WALA-TV for the first time last Saturday on the seventeenth day of this June (from "midtown Mobile") after using foil and adhesive tape to repair one of the poles for the antenna I had often used to receive digital TV signals from over the air in recent times.
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WALA is getting subchannel-happy...they recently added Escape to their .4 slot. I'd be on Xfinity to pick up these added channels, but I'll be forced to dump them when i move out "west" and have to sell my soul to AT&T since Mediacom has no interest in serving my new address...

For anyone that can actually pick up WALA, how has the picture quality been since they've added their .3 and .4 channels?

Unless Sinclair/Deerfield has something up their sleeve, I'd like to see WJTC pick up some more subchannels, especially Antenna TV and maybe a full-time "This" channel. If the Sinclair-Tribune merger happens, both channels will fall under Sinclair ownership.
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For anyone that can actually pick up WALA, how has the picture quality been since they've added their .3 and .4 channels?
Surprisingly it seems to be the same on the main Fox HD channel. The subchannels all look pretty fuzzy to me, though. If I remember correctly, Cozi is in a weird aspect ratio which probably doesn't help with the clarity of the picture. Surfing through the local OTA landscape is an exercise in annoyance anyway because it seems like every station has a different set of aspect ratios for their SD subchannels. Some are 16:9, some are 4:3, and some show 16:9 content in a 4:3 aspect resulting in windowboxing on some programs. It's annoying.
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For anyone that can actually pick up WALA, how has the picture quality been since they've added their .3 and .4 channels?
I cannot answer that question since those sub-channels were added before I ever had good and stable reception of the digital TV signal for WALA-TV by antenna.
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Unless Sinclair/Deerfield has something up their sleeve, I'd like to see WJTC pick up some more subchannels, especially Antenna TV and maybe a full-time "This" channel. If the Sinclair-Tribune merger happens, both channels will fall under Sinclair ownership.
Personally I would like for WKRG-TV and WPMI-TV to have more sub-channels in addition to WJTC-TV (they could have programming feeds for other TV programming services like Decades, Retro Television, BUZZR, Heroes and Icons, Light TV, Youtoo America, and Toku).

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Personally I would like for WKRG-TV and WPMI-TV to have more sub-channels in addition to WJTC-TV (they could have programming feeds for other TV programming services like Decades, Retro Television, BUZZR, Heroes and Icons, Light TV, Youtoo America, and Toku).
I agree. I would really like to see Heroes and Icons in this market.

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WPMI and WJTC have taken a turn for the worse in terms of on-air quality.

The audio levels are all over the place, especially between live newscasts and breaks, and there are frequent dropouts of both video and audio.

I heard a rumor that they were hubbing their master control somewhere (perhaps over at WEAR/WFGX?) Today may have been the day. I noticed the on-air bugs during programming had changed. WPMI's no longer has the time and temp and WJTC's is on CONSTANTLY, even during commercials!


Another change...both WFGX and WJTC are now broadcasting in 1080i instead of 720p. Traditionally, MyNetworkTV stations have broadcasted in 720p, and WFGX used to as well. WPMI is still in 1080i and WEAR is still in 720p.

UPDATE: WEAR has the same audio issue with their studio feed being lower than the program/break audio.

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WPMI and WJTC have taken a turn for the worse in terms of on-air quality.

The audio levels are all over the place, especially between live newscasts and breaks, and there are frequent dropouts of both video and audio.

I heard a rumor that they were hubbing their master control somewhere (perhaps over at WEAR/WFGX?) Today may have been the day. I noticed the on-air bugs during programming had changed. WPMI's no longer has the time and temp and WJTC's is on CONSTANTLY, even during commercials!
Glad to see I'm not the only one who noticed those issues. I just thought the video drops were a DirecTV issue, though.

Hard to believe they won some sort of awards (plural) for best newscasts. I guess teeveenewz ain't what it used to be.

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Sinclair-itis is finally setting in. This is why having 4 stations in the market is a bad idea.
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Sinclair-itis is finally setting in. This is why having 4 stations in the market is a bad idea.
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