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KWSD 36.2 broadcasting test pattern.

I was surprised to see 36.2 scanned in Monday night. KWSD is broadcasting a test pattern only. My guess is they are trying to technically satisfy that they're broadcasting.

Perhaps I'm wrong and they'll resume actual broadcasting but my experience with KWSD has been very bad. On the plus side, their signal doesn't lock my scan as it did for a year or more.
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RetroTV on 42

RetroTV appears to broadcasting on channel 42. I noticed it on channel 44 Sunday but that lasted but one day. Monday it changed to 42 and remains there today.

On another front ... I contacted KCPO last fall as they claim to be broadcasting, but I receive no signal. I was surprised they responded and reported they had tested near my house but could also find no signal.

It seems odd I can't receive their signal from within Sioux Falls, but what do I know? They did test and respond so they deserve credit.
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Looking to cut the cord in brandon. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a4c07880b5a5

Wondering which antenna to buy for an attic installation. Just bought a new TV and would like to have some HD channels.

I will run the cable from the antenna to the cable distribution box in the basement. Total of 3 tvs and one projector with xbox1
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Looking to cut the cord in brandon. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a4c07880b5a5

Wondering which antenna to buy for an attic installation. Just bought a new TV and would like to have some HD channels.

I will run the cable from the antenna to the cable distribution box in the basement. Total of 3 tvs and one projector with xbox1
I have no direct knowledge, but I've heard ClearStream antennas from antennasdirect.com work well.

However, if you're somewhat handy you can make your own. I made a single-bay Gray Hoverman and receive 33 channels in Sioux Falls. Of those 4.[1-3] and 14.[1-3] are from Sioux City.
http://www.digitalhome.ca/ota/superantenna/design.htm
Mine has no reflector and is mounted indoors. Your attic mount should work, but an outdoor mount works best. Also, mounting in a window is quite effective if an outdoor mount isn't an option.

Mine is on a wall, but if I move it to the window I also receive Pioneer 20.[1-4] from Worthingnton.
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Looking to cut the cord in brandon. http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a4c07880b5a5

Wondering which antenna to buy for an attic installation. Just bought a new TV and would like to have some HD channels.

I will run the cable from the antenna to the cable distribution box in the basement. Total of 3 tvs and one projector with xbox1
I've used the DB8 Ultra Long Range Multi-Directional Digital TV Antenna from Antennas Direct in the attic of a rural farm house for many years now, with very good results.
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would a Channel Master CM-4228HD work well? I have amazon rewards that i can use so i would rather buy from amazon if possible.
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Are you trying to get out-of-market stations? Your report shows all very-close local stations with easy-to-get signals and so far the talk has been for some pretty impressive fringe antenna setups. I'm all for bigger-the-better antenna setups if you have the room. Just curious what your goal was for station reception?
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I just want to ditch cable, get HD channels for local news and sports.
Is there any benefit to getting out of market stations? Is there different programming or will it just be the same lineup with different news and sports?



I would rather not spend $50 for an antenna and not be happy or just be wondering if I could get more or better channels with a $100 antenna

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Yeah - sometimes you can get different sports (like NFL games) in another market, but a quick check of old 506 Sports broadcast maps shows that at least most of the time, Sioux Falls and Sioux City have the same games.

I just wanted to point out that with signals as strong as yours, indoor antennas would even work. For a whole-house distribution system, your attic antenna solution works fine with any antenna listed (and likely most any antenna on the market). If you can afford (and have the room) big is fine -- but I wouldn't stress too much on antenna solutions with signals this strong. Your only possible consideration is that 3 of your stations are VHF (and who knows what will happen after the spectrum repack) and in 2 different directions. But it looks like you can easily split the difference since they are approx 60 degrees apart.
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Well I dont want to spend more than I have to. Is there a cheaper alternative you can suggest that will work as well for me.
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Well I dont want to spend more than I have to. Is there a cheaper alternative you can suggest that will work as well for me.
I spent about $12 for the Grey-Hoverman antenna I mentioned. If I move it outside I can fairly frequently receive Omaha. It really works well.

While I agree markets are largely the same, there are differences I enjoy. I like "Decades" and "Comet" from Sioux City. And Pioneer from Worthington offers some different programming from SDPB and time shifts.

The NFL does differ between Sioux City and Sioux Falls. KMEG often carries KC games while KELO does not. And on occasion, KMEG carries two games on weeks when KELO carries but one and vice versa.
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Isn't the sbgh only for uhf? Will it pick up the vhf channels close to me
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Well I built a simple gray hoverman single bay this morning. I have it in the center of the house and I am picking up 18 channels.

I didn't put a reflector on it just a quick one to see how it works. It should do a little better in the attic. I will build a reflector and mount it in the attic next week. I have 100' rg6 coming so I can run that to the cable distribution in the basement.

Will I need a preamp for a cable amplifier? I will have the line split 4 ways
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Well I built a simple gray hoverman single bay this morning. I have it in the center of the house and I am picking up 18 channels.

I didn't put a reflector on it just a quick one to see how it works. It should do a little better in the attic. I will build a reflector and mount it in the attic next week. I have 100' rg6 coming so I can run that to the cable distribution in the basement.

Will I need a preamp for a cable amplifier? I will have the line split 4 ways
Good, there's nothing wrong with simple. I made mine with 1/4" aluminum tubing as I didn't fancy the bending. I flattened the ends and joined them with a bolt at the proper angles.

Be aware, the reflector is designed to be directional. So if you are interested in but one direction you should come out ahead. But the reflector might cost you from other directions. That's why I didn't build a reflector.

I'm sorry but I have no answer for your preamp question.

You're right in that locating the antenna in the center of the house will limit your reception. I'd be interested in your results from the attic. I live in SE Sioux Falls and regularly receive the following:

2.[1-6]
4.]1-3]
7.[1-2]
11.[1-3]
13.[1-3]
14.[1-3]
23[1.6]
44
46.[1-2]

I can also receive 20.[1-5] but for some reason must move the antenna to the window. And then, only the west window. Again the directional nature of DTV.
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Channels I am getting
7 .1 .2
11 .1 .2 .3
13 .1 .2 .3
23.1 .2.3.4.5
46.1 .2
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Channels I am getting
7 .1 .2
11 .1 .2 .3
13 .1 .2 .3
23.1 .2.3.4.5
46.1 .2
Compared to me, you're missing channels from the south. Channel 2.[1-6] is Vermillion and identical to 23.[1-6]. Channels 4.[1-3] and 14.[1-3] are from Sioux City. I really like getting Sioux City channels but you may not care. Channel 44 is new and analog. It's PBS Kids.

I also like 20.[1-5] as their programming and scheduling differ somewhat from SDPB.

So basically, you might be well served for your needs with your simple Grey-Hoverman, regardless of location.

There's an additional upside of this thread. It spurred me to refine an idea I had last year about building an omni-directional dual-bay Grey-Hoverman. I think I may give it a try.
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OK antenna in the attic.
Channels so far
2.1,2,3,4,5,6
4.1,2,3
7.1,2
9.1,2
11.1,2,3
13.1,2,3
14.1,2,3
23.1,2,3
44.2,3
46.1,2

Overall 29 Channels
The new tv we bought even has a tv guide built in for the analog channels so we know whats coming on.
Picture is better than cable, Pretty Sweet.

Thanks for your help. That homemade antenna was super simple to build
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Nice lineup!

Inquiring minds want to know... what's on 2.5 and 2.6?
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Sdpb audio only
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Nice lineup!

Inquiring minds want to know... what's on 2.5 and 2.6?
2.5 and 2.6 are SDPB radio and classical music from their HD 2 channel. That's good for me as I have no HD radio. I do listen to 88.1 but believe HD 2 differs.
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OK antenna in the attic.
Channels so far
2.1,2,3,4,5,6
4.1,2,3
7.1,2
9.1,2
11.1,2,3
13.1,2,3
14.1,2,3
23.1,2,3
44.2,3
46.1,2

Overall 29 Channels
The new tv we bought even has a tv guide built in for the analog channels so we know whats coming on.
Picture is better than cable, Pretty Sweet.

Thanks for your help. That homemade antenna was super simple to build
Wonderful, glad to help. You receive KCAU which I do not, but I'm surprised you see only two channels as I believe they broadcast four.

I switched to cable in the early 90's for baseball and to avoid ghosting. When DTV arrived it was an easy decision to revert as cable went to excessive reality and - no ghosting. But while I'm very pleased with DTV quality and choice, I find I oddly miss analog.

On an unrelated note ... I would encourage anyone receptive to write KTTW about their EPG time. It's eight minutes fast. I've written them several times and was told they'd fix it with a reboot over a year ago. At that time they were but three minutes fast.

It just doesn't seem that difficult to broadcast the right time. And as a matter or principle, why broadcast something known to be wrong?
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2.5 and 2.6 are SDPB radio and classical music from their HD 2 channel.
Thanks for the information! I see they did mention it in a blog post last month, that I missed.
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Incorrect KTTW EPG time.

KTTW broadcasts an EPG time 10 minutes fast. It's certainly not the world's biggest problem but is annoying and causes the station to switch early.

I've written them perhaps six times over the last year with no success. But perhaps there's strength in numbers. If anyone's a mind, please write them requesting they correct their time. http://www.kttw.com/contact.html

No other station I receive broadcasts an incorrect time. How hard can it be?
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