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BRPBS has just purchased a new british drama called DCI Banks during their "financial crisis". I have learned that Direct TV and Dish customers will lose BRPBS as well since the transmitters are completely shutting down. Tennessee or North Carolina PBS signals will be used instead of
WBRA/Roanoke on satellite providers. BRPBS could have chosen to operate at reduced power or kept one of the transmitters on. The coverage areas of the Norton and Roanoke transmitters actually adjoin each other near Marion.
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Does anyone know exactly when Charter is going all digital here? And with that, and its re-branding to Charter Spectrum, will it finally give us the rest of its channels in HD?
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Is anyone seeing WMSY or WSBN? According to FCC filings, they signed back on at the end of March.

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So, I see WBRA 15-2 in Roanoke is back on the air. When I was visiting my parents over the Labor Day weekend, it looked like it was airing wall-to-wall pledge drive type programming.

Is this the programming that is airing on WMSY and WSBN?

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WSBN is still off the air. I saw it pop on the air one weekend a few months ago for a short period and nothing since.
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ABC moving from 19 to 11-2 Feb 1st

WJHL article (CBS)
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http://wjhl.com/2016/01/04/media-gen...ri-cities-dma/

ABC 19 article
http://abc19.tv/abc-moves-its-affili...nva-tv-market/
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KINGSPORT, Tenn. (WKPT) – George DeVault, President of Holston Valley Broadcasting, announced today that the ABC Television Network affiliation for the Tri-Cities market is being moved from WKPT-TV.1 in Kingsport to WJHL.2 in Johnson City. The change becomes effective February 1.

According to DeVault, “ABC presented to us a proposal that would have had us paying the network at least 15 million dollars over the next 5 years. Although we ultimately agreed to meet the network’s terms, ABC told us a few days ago that it had decided to explore other options in the market. WKPT-TV had been negotiating in good faith with ABC since October of last year,” DeVault said.
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Kind of sad but not surprised at all.
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ABC moving from 19 to 11-2 Feb 1st

WJHL article (CBS)
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http://wjhl.com/2016/01/04/media-gen...ri-cities-dma/

ABC 19 article
http://abc19.tv/abc-moves-its-affili...nva-tv-market/
The ABC-19 article more clearly explains the financial factors involved.
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KINGSPORT, Tenn. (WKPT) – George DeVault, President of Holston Valley Broadcasting, announced today that the ABC Television Network affiliation for the Tri-Cities market is being moved from WKPT-TV.1 in Kingsport to WJHL.2 in Johnson City. The change becomes effective February 1.

According to DeVault, “ABC presented to us a proposal that would have had us paying the network at least 15 million dollars over the next 5 years. Although we ultimately agreed to meet the network’s terms, ABC told us a few days ago that it had decided to explore other options in the market. WKPT-TV had been negotiating in good faith with ABC since October of last year,” DeVault said.
A few technical issues have not been mentioned. Will Media General convert CBS on 11.1 from 1080i to 720p resolution, and also carry ABC on 11.2 in 720p HD? And I would assume now both CBS and ABC channels will share the same local newscast from WJHL.
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Will Media General convert CBS on 11.1 from 1080i to 720p resolution, and also carry ABC on 11.2 in 720p HD?
They dont need to downconvert CBS to 720p. You can run a 1080i and a 720p with no issues. Gray is doing that with their markets (now they do downconvert the subchannel to 720p but since ABC is already 720p they are set)

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And I would assume now both CBS and ABC channels will share the same local newscast from WJHL.
probably

The 2 questions I have are
-what happens to MeTV
-assume the syndicated shows on 19 will stay on 19 so there will be some blank spots (when no ABC programming) on 11-2 to fill
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In the comments about this on WJHL's Facebook someone says they called the station and was told that MeTV would be "phased out."

WJHL's sister WNCT in Greenville, NC has CW in HD on .2 along with 1080i CBS on the primary. In comparison with WRAL (with a standard def .2) you can tell CBS looks a little softer on WNCT, especially during football.

WKPT would probably do well to pick up MeTV if they drop it.
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Just a forum observation - nothing like a network affiliation shake-up to activate discussion after some 15 months of a dormant Tri-Cities forum As I and another North Carolinian posted on the WKPT FB page, this reminds us Charlotte-area viewers back to when WCCB had Fox yanked away a few years back. Thing is, WCCB has fought back and appears to have done quite well against the odds of survival. With similar creative-thinking and available resources, it would seem WKPT can do the same. However, WCCB has consistently delivered a quality product for MANY years - plus they kept their news department post-Fox.

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The news department is what kept WCCB alive. I don't really understand why WKPT is throwing the towel in before they even give it a shot. To be fair though I also didn't know that they do news. is it a real newscast like the other stations? Last time I saw them was on cable in Boone a few years ago, and from what I recall it was just a reporter reading headlines from a news/talk radio station.
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WCCB's news also won some of its time periods and was very well-established. WKPT had no news at all from 2008 to 2013, as I recall, and I'm not sure how many people watch it.

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WCCB's news also won some of its time periods and was very well-established. WKPT had no news at all from 2008 to 2013, as I recall, and I'm not sure how many people watch it.

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WCCB had the top rated 10pm newscast and has continued to provide strong local news and sports programming, as well as adding the CW affiliation. So they have hung in there and continue to do well. Plus they have MeTV and AntennaTV subchannels. I just wish they could transmit their signal from the Dallas, NC area so I could receive their signal at my location like some of the other Charlotte channels. Or at least go ahead and build their previously planned Crowder's Mtn. translator. But I know with the spectrum repack those such matters are on hold.
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WCCB's news also won some of its time periods and was very well-established. WKPT had no news at all from 2008 to 2013, as I recall, and I'm not sure how many people watch it.

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Well, the morning producer is a friend of mine and I hate to add to their misery as they will be fired when this happens, but I will say I watched one of their Saturday morning newscasts back in October and it was not good. The anchor was obviously running her own teleprompter, unless a reporter was covering something local there was no b-roll video and the weather was basically her reading the forecast off of the local NWS web site. Add to that very few actual ads (your average 2 minute break was one local ad, one PSA and two promos for other shows on WKPT or one of their subchannels) and I can see why they are in such financial trouble.

Plus being on 11.2 pretty much triples the area ABC will reach now. I know people living on a mountain who could see the WKPT tower from their house (and lived 20 miles away) and couldn't get it at all over the air because WKPT is such low power.
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Plus being on 11.2 pretty much triples the area ABC will reach now. I know people living on a mountain who could see the WKPT tower from their house (and lived 20 miles away) and couldn't get it at all over the air because WKPT is such low power.
What? That makes no sense. If they could see the tower, then that 200 kW signal should be no sweat, unless they were behind the antenna looking into the null. Plus, WKPT has a boatload of translators all over the place.

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A few technical issues have not been mentioned. Will Media General convert CBS on 11.1 from 1080i to 720p resolution, and also carry ABC on 11.2 in 720p HD? And I would assume now both CBS and ABC channels will share the same local newscast from WJHL.
I receive WCYB out of the tri cities here in western NC and they also similarly carry another one of the broadcast networks on a subchannel. Not sure if it's right or not but my Samsung tv shows that NBC on 5.1 is 1080i and that the CW on 5.2 is also broadcast in 1080i, not sure if this is a mistake or it really is the case. Both seem to have pretty good picture quality still as well as the decades subchannel on 5.3.
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Yeah WCYB changed 5.2 The CW over to 1080i about 2 months ago. They are the only channel that I have seen running 2 1080i channels along with a 480i. I'll have to admit that they all look pretty good too. I hate it for WKPT; I'd like to see them succeed but I'm not sure given the current circumstances that's going to happen. I also hate to lose METV from WHJL11.2. Luckily I can still get METV from Knoxville WBIR 10.2.
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Here's a thread devoted to Charter cable systems in northwestern North Carolina, which also serve Mountain City and nearby portions of Johnson and Carter counties.

WKPT is the only Tri-Cities local channel carried in HD on the Mountain City system; the others are all from Charlotte.

Boone/Hickory, NC - Charter
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WCCB's news also won some of its time periods and was very well-established. WKPT had no news at all from 2008 to 2013, as I recall, and I'm not sure how many people watch it.

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I'm located in Mitchell County, NC and need some antenna recommendations from you folks on the forum.

Right now, I have a little GE 5 element yagi antenna from Walmart up about 25'. Besides all the UNC-TV PBS translators all around me (Geesh!), I can only get WCYB (5) and WSPA (8) translator near Spruce Pine. Two weeks ago, I could also get WJHL (11) but now its gone. Ive tried for FOX on WEMT (38) and WHNS translator(34) but cant get them when I scan. However, as I'm scanning, the TV stays on 11, 34, and 38 a little longer than on empty channels so maybe I'm very close to getting these with a little more gain. Looking at my TV Fool data for 36.02 N and -82.24 W, which of all those channels could I reasonably expect to pickup with a medium to large yagi? Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated.

If I could just get 5, 11, and 38, I would be happy to have all four networks and if I could still get 8 (WSPA) to my southeast because its got MeTV!

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Update on my channels so far...

I retired the little GE Pro antenna and took it back to Walmart. I'm now using an old CM-3018 temporarily @ 18' that was given to me. Now I'm getting WLOS, WEMT, and WBTV with the extra gain on that old Channel Master and pinpointing the towers. Does WBTV have any translators or am I getting that directly from the source at 75 miles? I just finished building a 4-bay bowtie that wncbraves told me about...Thanks Cody! (I think our spouses work together and I taught you years ago LOL) Just waiting for the 4:1 transformer to arrive in the mail to try the 4-bay out!

I would really like to get WKPT off of Holston Mountain since they have gone 100% nostalgia channels. I'm on the null side of the lobe but I'm also on WEMT's null too but with 63.5 kW ERP in my direction. According to Rabbit Ears, WKPT's transmitter is still generating 11.5 kW of ERP on the null side. Do I have a shot at getting this at 30 miles away? Maybe the 4-bay will come through for me!?!

Even though I'm getting WBTV consistently now, I'm not sure if I have a shot at any of the other Charlotte stations (WJZY, WSOC, WCNC, WCCB, etc). I know there is a WCCB translator just south of I-40 between Morganton and Hickory that targets Marion but the ERP toward me is only about 6 kW.

WHKY is a mystery to me...I've tried several evenings to pinpoint them with the CM but with no luck. According to Rabbit Ears, they have transmitters on 3 towers in and around Hickory and the lobes show around 7 kW of ERP toward me. Is my old Channel Master better at VHF reception rather than UHF?

Thanks for this forum!

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I retired the little GE Pro antenna and took it back to Walmart. I'm now using an old CM-3018 temporarily @ 18' that was given to me. Now I'm getting WLOS, WEMT, and WBTV with the extra gain on that old Channel Master and pinpointing the towers. Does WBTV have any translators or am I getting that directly from the source at 75 miles? I just finished building a 4-bay bowtie that wncbraves told me about...Thanks Cody! (I think our spouses work together and I taught you years ago LOL) Just waiting for the 4:1 transformer to arrive in the mail to try the 4-bay out!

I would really like to get WKPT off of Holston Mountain since they have gone 100% nostalgia channels. I'm on the null side of the lobe but I'm also on WEMT's null too but with 63.5 kW ERP in my direction. According to Rabbit Ears, WKPT's transmitter is still generating 11.5 kW of ERP on the null side. Do I have a shot at getting this at 30 miles away? Maybe the 4-bay will come through for me!?!

Even though I'm getting WBTV consistently now, I'm not sure if I have a shot at any of the other Charlotte stations (WJZY, WSOC, WCNC, WCCB, etc). I know there is a WCCB translator just south of I-40 between Morganton and Hickory that targets Marion but the ERP toward me is only about 6 kW.

WHKY is a mystery to me...I've tried several evenings to pinpoint them with the CM but with no luck. According to Rabbit Ears, they have transmitters on 3 towers in and around Hickory and the lobes show around 7 kW of ERP toward me. Is my old Channel Master better at VHF reception rather than UHF?

Thanks for this forum!
WBTV has a strong omnidirectional signal from a top mounted tower. WJZY and WCNC are from the same basic location, but their transmitting antennas are side mounted more towards Charlotte, so their signal may not be as strong towards the western fringe as WBTV. Perhaps add a good preamp and you may stand a chance. But for distant UHF, a 91XG or DB8e antenna would be the more reliable antenna. But your homemade 4-bay may perform well also. The main WSOC and WCCB towers may be just too far away unless your height in Mitchell County can help overcome the distance, and their translators may indeed be a bit too weak at your location. Trial and error. I would check out TV Fool or Rabbitears for more accurate assessment, or other local reports.
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I retired the little GE Pro antenna and took it back to Walmart. I'm now using an old CM-3018 temporarily @ 18' that was given to me. Now I'm getting WLOS, WEMT, and WBTV with the extra gain on that old Channel Master and pinpointing the towers. Does WBTV have any translators or am I getting that directly from the source at 75 miles? I just finished building a 4-bay bowtie that wncbraves told me about...Thanks Cody! (I think our spouses work together and I taught you years ago LOL) Just waiting for the 4:1 transformer to arrive in the mail to try the 4-bay out!

I would really like to get WKPT off of Holston Mountain since they have gone 100% nostalgia channels. I'm on the null side of the lobe but I'm also on WEMT's null too but with 63.5 kW ERP in my direction. According to Rabbit Ears, WKPT's transmitter is still generating 11.5 kW of ERP on the null side. Do I have a shot at getting this at 30 miles away? Maybe the 4-bay will come through for me!?!

Even though I'm getting WBTV consistently now, I'm not sure if I have a shot at any of the other Charlotte stations (WJZY, WSOC, WCNC, WCCB, etc). I know there is a WCCB translator just south of I-40 between Morganton and Hickory that targets Marion but the ERP toward me is only about 6 kW.

WHKY is a mystery to me...I've tried several evenings to pinpoint them with the CM but with no luck. According to Rabbit Ears, they have transmitters on 3 towers in and around Hickory and the lobes show around 7 kW of ERP toward me. Is my old Channel Master better at VHF reception rather than UHF?

Thanks for this forum!
I am 99.9% sure that WBTV uses NO translators. The only Charlotte stations with translators are WSOC and WCCB (which are both - as you noted) near Valdese. WTVI (PBS) also has a translator in Hickory. Regarding WHKY, you may have co-channel or adjacent channel interference (to WHKY's channel 40) giving you a fit with its reception.

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WCNC has translators too I believe but they are out in the far eastern part of the market.
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WCNC has translators too I believe but they are out in the far eastern part of the market.
Correct - I forgot about WCNC. They have one in Anson County and the other in Montgomery. The Montgomery translator is puzzling, as it's in the Greensboro DMA, and WCNC's news/weather pretty much ignores Montgomery county.

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