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You should get WTEN at least as well as the other stations. I too am in Bethlehem and it's among my strongest stations. Maybe your tuner doesn't know it's really on channel 26. Depending on how your tuner works, you might try tuning to ch. 26 directly, or add ch. 26 into your channel list, or maybe just do a full rescan.
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Let me preface this post by saying the Capital District is boring. To someone who loved the DX'ing capabilities of analog, there's nothing to pick up around here outside of the 'locals'. mad.gif

This post is an update to a previous post where I outlined my reception from Rotterdam using an Antenna's Direct Clearstream 2 (on the roof). Well, since I'm never completely satisfied with anything, and am always hopeful in finding the "holy grail" of antennas someday, I thought I'd try an "AD" db4e.

One of my hopes with these units was that I could finally get the elusive WYBN, 14 from Windam. It was also to find a balance between long-distance UHF, as well as consistent reception from the several VHF's around here. Since I'm not much further than 10 miles from the mountain, I really had no trouble...even with ch. 6! So yes those two antennas managed to get me 6,7,12 & 13 without much of an issue.

Last year, analog ch. 15 was really good. Since then they were sold... lost their simulcast with WNYA... switched to AMGTV, and moved the transmitter from Albany to Coxsakie. They're now about 36 miles from me, and deliver lots of 'snow' to the video! This is also why I wanted WYBN. I'd sooner see "America One" over "AMGTV".

Fast forward to this past winter. So through the kind generosity of Antenna's Direct, I was given my choice of antenna to test-out at my house. I chose the 91XG...thinking this might deliver the UHF boost I was looking for. I changed the configuration on my roof to accommodate it... and it's pretty good. BUT it's STILL not the holy grail!

Pointed to the southeast, I still (predictably) get the same channels. 6, 10, 13, 15, 17, 18 (WNYT) 19 (WTEN) 23, 45, 51 & 55. Yes, 15 is fuzzy, but it's actually a tad better than it was with the db4e. VHF has been great ... and yes I realize that all the units I've had are primarily for UHF only.

If I turn the antenna north'ish, it'll also add 8.1 & 8.2 from Glens Falls, all EIGHT ch. 44's, and a "third" WNYT...which I think is ch. 45. But.....STILL no WYBN (when aimed in their direction). In total, that's about 40 channels (including all the 44's and six subs on ch. 55).

So unless they want to send me something else to try out, I think I'll stick with what I have for now.
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Anyone else notice lip-sync issues with watching WTEN OTA? It is very subtle, but you can definitely notice it.


I don't have any lip sync issues on any other channel.
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In Berkshire County using Time Warner on basic cable. It seems we have lost the HD channels through the TV's CAM tuner. Anyone else notice this?

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In Berkshire County using Time Warner on basic cable. It seems we have lost the HD channels through the TV's CAM tuner. Anyone else notice this?
Sometime in the past couple of weeks, Time Warner moved the clear QAM channels. Try re-scanning. The Albany locals moved from ch 110-113 to lower channels (73 or 74-77 I think).
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In Berkshire County using Time Warner on basic cable. It seems we have lost the HD channels through the TV's CAM tuner. Anyone else notice this?
This has been a problem for a number of TW viewers who plug the cable directly into their TV. If a channel scan does not solve it, you have to have one of their technicians come to your house and remove a trap. This has solved a number of these cases since the channels were relocated on August 5th. You'll also notice the sub channels are missing. A number of viewers have had cable at their home for decades. Some of these still have old traps in the line.
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I was at the Altamont Fair this past week with my family, and when on the Ferris Wheel, I saw the TV towers on top of the nearby Helderberg Mtns. I thought it would be interesting to take a ride after we were done with the fair and see what it looked like .


One thing for sure, my minivan struggled to get up Pinnacle Rd when I turned off Beaver Dam Rd when I was approaching Camp Pinnacle, but once I got to the top, I got a closeup view of the towers along the road. It seems as if most of these towers are on private property? That's what it seems the access roads are on as I could not really get any closer but the road. Of course, I'm sure the FCC does not want anyone close to these towers anyway.


I should have taken pics, but Google maps has a couple of pics of the road, and you can see the towers in the background.


Anyway, it was a nice tour and education of how we get our OTA signals, not to mention the nice view of the mountains.
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I was at the Altamont Fair this past week with my family, and when on the Ferris Wheel, I saw the TV towers on top of the nearby Helderberg Mtns. I thought it would be interesting to take a ride after we were done with the fair and see what it looked like .


One thing for sure, my minivan struggled to get up Pinnacle Rd when I turned off Beaver Dam Rd when I was approaching Camp Pinnacle, but once I got to the top, I got a closeup view of the towers along the road. It seems as if most of these towers are on private property? That's what it seems the access roads are on as I could not really get any closer but the road. Of course, I'm sure the FCC does not want anyone close to these towers anyway.


I should have taken pics, but Google maps has a couple of pics of the road, and you can see the towers in the background.


Anyway, it was a nice tour and education of how we get our OTA signals, not to mention the nice view of the mountains.
I've been up there a few times before and have taken a few pictures...as well as video.

If you're a DX'er and REALLY want a thrill...I've been up there with a portable TV and an external antenna! All I can say is WOW! I received Utica ch's 2 & 20 in one spot, then went down the road a bit, pointed the antenna north/northeast, and got ch. 41 from Rutland, (with several repeaters) and WPTZ, Ch. 5 from Plattsburgh! On a separate ride further down Pinnacle Road, I was actually trying to pick up WYBN-14 from Wyndam, but received ch. 48 from Kingston, NY (which has about 6 digital sub-channels) instead. I wish I owned a house up there. The allure of DX'ing goes back decades for me.

There are two different access roads up there. IIRC -- the Pinnacle (Camp) Road you mentioned is where sets of towers are visible on both sides of the road as you make the incline. Then at the top of the hill there's an access road to the left which curls around and goes a fair way down. I think I may of ventured down that road (a bit) once before. There's a large tower at the end, which (IIRC) is WGNA FM.

If heading west on Beaver Dam, but before coming to Pinnacle Rd, I recall a gravel road which goes up a hill. This road leads directly to the WRGB tower. It's one of the shortest ones on the mountain.

Most of the stations are located in that one area. I believe it's Fox23 and 106.5 that are easily visible on the right side of Pinnacle Rd. Can't recall which side WMHT is on. One of the exceptions is WTEN...which is part of the second cluster about a half-mile further down the road past the camp.

The tower farms are interesting. One that you CAN easily visit, while getting a fantastic view at the same time, is the tower on top of Mt. Greylock in Williamstown, MA. WTEN's repeater, WCDC-19 is prominent on that one. One of WNYT's repeaters might also be up there as well. As I said, the view up there is the best in the region!

Thanks for posting your experience.

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As I headed south on Pinnacle, my GPS told me to turn right on Tower 2 Lane, but it was an open gravel yard. Thinking it was wrong, I went to the next right, but it looked like someones private driveway/house. So I kept on going.

Further South on the right, I did see the Fox 23 tower. I knew what it was because there was a street sign on the right side of the road that said "WXXA-DT"

Are these towers by themselves? I though I read somewhere a while back that there was a "community tower" where multiple stations were on 1 antenna.

Next time I'm in the area, I'll remember to bring my laptop and Hauppauge tuner stick. It will be interesting to see what I get. What antenna did you use?
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Are these towers by themselves? I though I read somewhere a while back that there was a "community tower" where multiple stations were on 1 antenna.

Next time I'm in the area, I'll remember to bring my laptop and Hauppauge tuner stick.?
Yes, you might be correct about the "community tower"once the DTV conversion was complete. I don't remember too much about it though.

"Hauppauge tuner stick"? That sounds fancier than what I probably had...which again if I'm remembering right, might've been a Clearstream 2 - UHF antenna. I have a few different types...indoor and outdoor. I guess I should get with the times. I haven't tried using a computer/laptop for TV reception yet. Not sure that I'd even know how to set it up.

One thing.....DX'ing was sure more of a joy in the old analog days.
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Yes, you might be correct about the "community tower"once the DTV conversion was complete. I don't remember too much about it though.

"Hauppauge tuner stick"? That sounds fancier than what I probably had...which again if I'm remembering right, might've been a Clearstream 2 - UHF antenna. I have a few different types...indoor and outdoor. I guess I should get with the times. I haven't tried using a computer/laptop for TV reception yet. Not sure that I'd even know how to set it up.

One thing.....DX'ing was sure more of a joy in the old analog days.

The Hauppauge tuner stick is just a USB digital OTA tuner I plug into the laptop. I still need to connect an antenna to it though.
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Looked back in this forum, found some interesting articles and pics of the Helderberg tower farm.


http://www.fybush.com/sites/2007/site-070622.html


http://www.necrat.us/albdtv.html ( This must be the community tower off Tower 3 Lane?)
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