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post #721 of 5022 Old 02-06-2004, 05:02 PM
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Is anyone else having a problem with WMHT's DTV channel this evening? My set says no signal.

I'm not getting a signal, either.

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Is WRGB having issues?

No WRGB or UPN (I believe they're on the same antenna?)

WNYT comes in fine.

I watched WRGB last night and I've got an indoor antenna at 75% signal strength.

Anyone else?
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Is WRGB having issues?

No WRGB or UPN (I believe they're on the same antenna?)

WNYT comes in fine.

No problems with WRGB or UPN here.

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Originally posted by m_jonis
Is WRGB having issues?

No WRGB or UPN (I believe they're on the same antenna?)

WNYT comes in fine.

I watched WRGB last night and I've got an indoor antenna at 75% signal strength.

Anyone else?

WRGB have been having major issues with their digital signal for quite awhile now......I'm not getting anything at all........on TWC!

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I'm getting WRGB just fine. But WMHT is out.

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WRGB have been having major issues with their digital signal for quite awhile now......I'm not getting anything at all........on TWC!

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OK, this is a pretty dumb question, but never having used or owned a DVR... When the 8000HD (for example) is on, I assume it always plays through the hard drive (ie. cable -> disk -> TV). Is this true?
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Yes, that is correct.
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This was originally posted at AlbanyHDTV.com.

I picked up the 8000HD on Friday and finally got a chance to hook the DVI cable up to the back of the 8000HD DVR this morning.

No output at all from the 8000HD DVR via DVI.

Right before I started to hook up the DVI, I noticed that there were four dashes "----" displaying on the 8000HD screen where the time normally displays. The power would not turn on. I called TWC and she sent a "hit" to the box. The time immediately displayed. She said she would make a note of the problem, because they are logging all issues with the 8000HD DVR's.

BTW, I am watching The Lion King right now, which played on ABC last night. The picture is fabulous and the sound is incredible. Too bad those anti-TWC HD users weren't able to enjoy it.

Besides the lack of DVI support, I have yet to find any problems with the 8000HD DVR.

Two minor issues are:

1. You cannot set a "season pass" like on a TiVo. For example, I set the 8000HD DVR to record Sex in the City on HBO HD, but it records ALL the episodes shown including the repeats, not just the new ones. With TiVo, I can set it to record only the "first run" of each episode.

2. It does not record HD programs OTA via my STB. I would like to be able to record the HD versions of the shows on CBS & NBC (when WNYT does remember to "flip the switch" and pass through the HD version of the program). Hopefully, in time, TWC, WNYT, and WRGB will come to an agreement to show the HD programming on TWC.

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This was originally posted at AlbanyHDTV.com.

I picked up the 8000HD on Friday and finally got a chance to hook the DVI cable up to the back of the 8000HD DVR this morning.

No output at all from the 8000HD DVR via DVI.

Right before I started to hook up the DVI, I noticed that there were four dashes "----" displaying on the 8000HD screen where the time normally displays. The power would not turn on. I called TWC and she sent a "hit" to the box. The time immediately displayed. She said she would make a note of the problem, because they are logging all issues with the 8000HD DVR's.

BTW, I am watching The Lion King right now, which played on ABC last night. The picture is fabulous and the sound is incredible. Too bad those anti-TWC HD users weren't able to enjoy it.

Besides the lack of DVI support, I have yet to find any problems with the 8000HD DVR.

Two minor issues are:

1. You cannot set a "season pass" like on a TiVo. For example, I set the 8000HD DVR to record Sex in the City on HBO HD, but it records ALL the episodes shown including the repeats, not just the new ones. With TiVo, I can set it to record only the "first run" of each episode.

2. It does not record HD programs OTA via my STB. I would like to be able to record the HD versions of the shows on CBS & NBC (when WNYT does remember to "flip the switch" and pass through the HD version of the program). Hopefully, in time, TWC, WNYT, and WRGB will come to an agreement to show the HD programming on TWC.


Have you noticed any differences in Picture Quality between the 8000HD DVR and the 3250? I've read the PQ is not as good with the 8000 compared to the 3250 and other STB's. Supposedly there are still many glitches to be worked out of the 8000 yet.

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I see no differences with my 8000HD compared to my prevoius 3250. Recorded HD looks incredible.

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I see no differences with my 8000HD compared to my prevoius 3250. Recorded HD looks incredible.

I agree. Well worth the extra $5 a month.

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Originally posted by AlbanyHDTV
I agree. Well worth the extra $5 a month.

That's good to hear....I guess the problems could be a locality issue. I may go take the plunge tomorrow and pick one up.

Here are some of the posts I was taking about.......


http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...13#post3224013

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...71#post3262271

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...36#post3330536

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Lufters, I agree, HD looks just as good to my eyes as the 3250HD I had. The 8000HD doesn't have the Passthrough setting. I'm hoping that comes at some point with a software update but I have my macro until then. The only other thing is that at first I thought the analog channels looked a bit worse with the 8000 than the 3250 but either my eyes are adjusting or the 8000 is breaking in, since they look better now.

My experience in getting the box. I called Saturday morning, the rep said no 8000HDs were available. I told her people I knew (from this forum) were getting them. She said they had a few but were only giving them to people who presently had an HD box...I replied "that's me!" and explained I had the 3250HD. So, she called the Albany TWC office and reserved the (supposedly) only one they had. Of course, I ran right over and grabbed it. Don't forget the special remote (a DVR capable remote) that comes with it.
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ThePrisoner,

Who (ISF) Calibrated your TV?
I'm looking to get my Mits done sometime this year after I move.

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lufters,

My set was calibrated by Dave Abrams. He is located down in Woodstock but travels to just about everywhere in the country. He has worked miracles on my set. Check out www.avical.com
He has some nice price packages and he loves working on Mitsubishi's. He has tweaked mine on 3 different occasions.

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How bad is the Picture Quality on WRGB-DT during the Grammy performances (fast movement) tonight?

I never seen so much pixilation and Macro-blocking in my life. Did anyone check out how obvious it was during the first performance with Prince and Beyoncé. How can't anyone see this?? Maybe because I have a 65" TV??

I'm so done with WRGB after tonight. They can take their Half-A@#ed HD multicast signal and go #$%&!!!!


WRGB....some advice.....watch HDNET and get a clue!!!!!!!!

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WRGB....some advice.....watch HDNET and get a clue!!!!!!!!


I agree, HDnet is awesome. NHL Hockey is flawless
The NHL All-Star Game on ABC today was also rock solid.

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I had Dave Abrams do my Toshiba set 3 or so years ago. Highly recommended. In my limited look at the 8000HD, I haven't noticed any change in PQ from the 3250.
If I get a chance, I'll turn on the Grammys.

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Im getting very weak signal from WRGB tonight. Is anyone else?

I usually get > 80% im now getting 53% and less.
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My set was calibrated by Dave Abrams. He is located down in Woodstock but travels to just about everywhere in the country. He has worked miracles on my set. Check out www.avical.com
He has some nice price packages and he loves working on Mitsubishi's. He has tweaked mine on 3 different occasions.

I'll have to look him up. I have a few friends that are looking to get their set calibrated also.

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How can't anyone see this?? Maybe because I have a 65" TV??

I also seen alot of pixelization during the 1st performance with Prince and Beyonce.. quality gets better when there is not alot of movement..

For what its worth,pixelation is definately more noticeable on my 100" display and was barely noticeable on my 30"..

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WRGB....some advice.....watch HDNET and get a clue!!!!!!!!

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I agree, HDnet is awesome.

...and Demi Moore's awesome naked body looked great on HDnet last night, too.

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I also seen alot of pixelization during the 1st performance with Prince and Beyonce.. quality gets better when there is not alot of movement..

For what its worth,pixelation is definately more noticeable on my 100" display and was barely noticeable on my 30"..

Finally I'm not the only one that sees this.

Thanks for your input

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I guess it's a good thing that TWC (and us) don't have to pay WRGB for their HD signal. Given all the problems between them and WNYT, maybe it's a blessing in disguise. (okay, so I'm trying desperately to look on the bright side).
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Given all the problems between them and WNYT, maybe it's a blessing in disguise. (okay, so I'm trying desperately to look on the bright side).

LOL!

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Finally I'm not the only one that sees this.

Check out the national thread... even full-bandwidth CBS stations had the same exact problems. Stobe light effects have never come out right on anything I have watched in HD - It doesn't matter if it was the Disturbed concert on HDnet, last year's SuperBowl Halftime on TWC 1810, the introductions of a basketball game on ESPN-HD or any live event on WRGB-DT. Strobe effects don't work in HD yet. And quick cuts during extensive lighting effects only synergizes the problem.

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In a story posted at AlbanyHDTV.com,

WRGB says: Digital Cable offers more than Satellite

Ironic?

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Hey AlbanyHDTV,

Great job with your site, all that hard work is paying off.

Maybe you could incorporate a local tv guide with HDTV listings? i.e. titantv..

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I called Greg again...he said NBC is not transmitting the HD signal to them.

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