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MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 03:41 PM 09-26-2003
6-3 goes live with Instant Doppler Radar!

WRGB has its very own Instant Doppler Radar system. (Most stations use the National Weather Service Doppler) WRGB-DT has set channel 6-3 to be a continuous live feed of the Doppler Radar Imagery.

BTW, due to the very limited change from frame to frame with the Radar Imagery, 6-3 uses very little bandwidth. (Leaving 6-1 and 6-2 to the majority of the bandwidth) A very cool use of very little of the Data Stream.

jpeter1093's Avatar jpeter1093 05:27 AM 09-30-2003
This morning, I noticed TWC has channel 6's HD feed up on channel 1806, just a color bar test pattern but the channel is there!
mattalb's Avatar mattalb 02:57 PM 09-30-2003
Time Warner Cable has added WRGB 6 to its HDTV channel lineup on its website.
lufters's Avatar lufters 10:38 PM 10-05-2003
The center channel doesn't work whenever the sound is broadcast in 5.1 on TW Channel 1810. Anyone else aware of the problem?

Here's a thread I started.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...95#post2755695
lufters's Avatar lufters 08:40 AM 10-07-2003
Quote:


Originally posted by lufters
The center channel doesn't work whenever the sound is broadcast in 5.1 on TW Channel 1810. Anyone else aware of the problem?

Here's a thread I started.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...95#post2755695

Fixed



Thanks, Will try to keep a better eye on the HD feed.
Have been focused on getting HD on the air which should happen in November.

Skeeter


John L. wrote:

I'm watching MNF....it's working correctly now...thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: Skeeter Lansing
To: jlworld@nycap.rr.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with 5.1 Surround
I may have found the problem. I think the Dolby Decoder had a power hit and reset to stereo.
I have to wait until ABC sends the 5.1 feed to reset to the correct mode.

Skeeter

"jlworld@nycap.rr.com" wrote:

Thanks for the response....
If I can remember...the last and everytime I saw the ABC test loop...the
center channel did work. It's just not working during their 5.1 broadcast
(Primetime Shows, MNF, ect.)

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Skeeter Lansing skeeter.lansing@wten.com
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:39:06 -0400
To: jlworld@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: Problem with 5.1 Surround

Thanks,
I haven't noticed the problem, but then again
5.1 is only available when ABC provides it. I
will have my technical staff look into it
tonight or when ABC provides the HD test loop.
This points out to me that I need a better
monitoring situation for HD here in the station

Thanks
Skeeter

John L wrote:

> I'm not sure if your aware of this but..
> whenever you (ABC) broadcast in 5.1 on Time
> Warner Cable's Digital Channel 1810 the center
> channel is never working. I talked to Time
> Warner...they told me I should contact WTEN
> about this problem. But since the signal feed
> is coming from your sister station....should I
> contact them? I'm not the only person that's
> having this issue in our area.....check out
> the forum link below. Thanks, John LuftAlbany,
> NY 12205
jpeter1093's Avatar jpeter1093 09:53 AM 10-07-2003
John, well done!
esposj's Avatar esposj 09:55 PM 10-09-2003
So I just got my Mits 48413 today

I watched some discovery and full metal jacket in HDTV with a big grin on my face. My question is, when is 1806 going to be live? Is it live during primetime hours only and color barred the rest?

Can't wait for time warner to make deals with nbc and fox too.
NickHDTV's Avatar NickHDTV 10:20 PM 10-09-2003
Pretty much prime time.
mattalb's Avatar mattalb 06:50 AM 10-10-2003
I've kep't an eye on Ch. 1806 during primetime over the past week and I have seen nothing but test bars. I called Time Warner to check when the channel was scheduled to go live, but they had no information. Anybody else know anything about a live date for CBS on TW?
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 07:18 AM 10-10-2003
Quote:


Originally posted by mattalb
Anybody else know anything about a live date for CBS on TW?

TWC and WRGB executives are "in talks" regarding retransmission rights of the digital signal(s). I am not at liberty to reveal any details at this time.
lufters's Avatar lufters 12:07 PM 10-10-2003
Quote:


Originally posted by MasterFX1
TWC and WRGB executives are "in talks" regarding retransmission rights of the digital signal(s). I am not at liberty to reveal any details at this time.


We need to tell TWC and WRGB....CHOP CHOP!!!

What's there to talk about.....I'm sure these type of contracts are pretty standard right about now with TWC.

We're almost in the middle of the NFL Season...not to mention CBS has the Super Bowl this year.
mattalb's Avatar mattalb 12:47 PM 10-10-2003
Quote:


We need to tell TWC and WRBB....CHOP CHOP!!!

Anyone have an email for the person best suited to receive our comments? I've sent emails to TWC in the past (using email addresses off their local website) and never received a reply.
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 01:16 PM 10-10-2003
The General Manager for WRGB is Tom Long. His e-mail address is tlong@wrgb.com.

Peter Taubkin is the VP of Government Relations and Public Affairs for Time Warner Cable in our region. His e-mail address is peter.taubkin@twcable.com.
lufters's Avatar lufters 03:07 PM 10-10-2003
Quote:


Originally posted by MasterFX1
The General Manager for WRGB is Tom Long. His e-mail address is tlong@wrgb.com.

Peter Taubkin is the VP of Government Relations and Public Affairs for Time Warner Cable in our region. His e-mail address is peter.taubkin@twcable.com.

I e-mailed Tom Long on 9/15 about WRBG going digital and about the digital feed to TWC. This was about a week before Ch. 1806 appeared on TWC. Maybe I got them going a bit or could be just a coincidence.

Here's his response...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tom Long"
To: "'John Luft'"
Sent: Monday, September 15, 2003 9:51 AM
Subject: RE: Digital


> John, we are broadcasting a digital signal on Channel 39. We're at reduced
> power as we wait for the facility on the Helderbergs
> to be completed. However, if you have a digital set, you should be able to
> get it. It is digital, but not High Definition. When the new facility is
> finished, all local stations will be broadcasting digitally from the new
> location. We do not have an agreement with Time Warner as yet, and
> hopefully will have one by superbowl time. By the way, Channel 10 is not
> broadcasting digitally. Their satellite station in Pittsfield is digital,
> and since the programming is identical to WTEN, they feed it to
> Time-Warner.
>
> Tom Long
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Luft [SMTP:jlworld@nycap.rr.com]
> Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2003 11:22 PM
> To: tlong@wrgb.com
> Subject: Digital
>
> I was wondering when you will be going digital and when you would be
> feeding the signal to Time Warner Cable. Your FAQ on your web site
> says.....
>
> Q. I have heard that HDTV is coming. When will WRGB be digital?
> A. The FCC has mandated that WRGB be transmitting digitally by January,
> 2003. We expect to beat the FCC timetable.
>
>
> Do you have some idea when this may happen....CBS has the Super Bowl this
> year and would be great if you could at least get it up and running by
> then.
>
> The last I heard all the local stations were waiting for a tower to be
> finished....but it seems WTEN didn't wait and went directly
> to Time Warner Cable....Why wouldn't WRGB do this also?
>
> Thanks,
>
> John Luft
> Albany, NY 12205
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 06:50 AM 10-11-2003
Just to clear up some inaccuracies....

No local station is yet originating local HD programming.

WRGB-DT is currently passing High-Definition through on it's Over-The-Air Low-Power transmitter only. The broadcast is in High-Definition only when provided from CBS network and in DD5.1 too (When available).

WTEN-DT is not yet transmitting Over-The-Air, but is feeding Time Warner Cable. The signal is in High-Definition only when provided from ABC network and in DD5.1 too (When available). WCDC-DT is a sister station to WTEN and is transmitting an Over-The-Air 480i simulcast of WTEN(Analog).

WNYT-DT still hopes to be transmitting High-Definition at Full-Power Over-The-Air within weeks. Again, High Definition programming will only be available when provided from NBC.

WXXA-DT (FOX) is still in limbo.

I have no details yet concerning WEWB (WB) and WMHT (PBS).

The first post on this thread is updated regularly and is the only complete HD channel availability index for our region.
esposj's Avatar esposj 09:50 PM 10-12-2003
thanks again for the good info MasterFX. I am considering purchasing a hd card for my pc while waiting for all the cable stuff to pan out. Having CBS in hd would really be great.
lufters's Avatar lufters 06:08 PM 10-13-2003
Quote:


Originally posted by lufters
Fixed



Thanks, Will try to keep a better eye on the HD feed.
Have been focused on getting HD on the air which should happen in November.

Skeeter


John Luft wrote:

I'm watching MNF....it's working correctly now...thanks

----- Original Message -----
From: Skeeter Lansing
To: jlworld@nycap.rr.com
Sent: Monday, October 06, 2003 12:31 PM
Subject: Re: Problem with 5.1 Surround
I may have found the problem. I think the Dolby Decoder had a power hit and reset to stereo.
I have to wait until ABC sends the 5.1 feed to reset to the correct mode.

Skeeter

"jlworld@nycap.rr.com" wrote:

Thanks for the response....
If I can remember...the last and everytime I saw the ABC test loop...the
center channel did work. It's just not working during their 5.1 broadcast
(Primetime Shows, MNF, ect.)

Original Message:
-----------------
From: Skeeter Lansing skeeter.lansing@wten.com
Date: Mon, 06 Oct 2003 11:39:06 -0400
To: jlworld@nycap.rr.com
Subject: Re: Problem with 5.1 Surround

Thanks,
I haven't noticed the problem, but then again
5.1 is only available when ABC provides it. I
will have my technical staff look into it
tonight or when ABC provides the HD test loop.
This points out to me that I need a better
monitoring situation for HD here in the station

Thanks
Skeeter

John Luft wrote:

> I'm not sure if your aware of this but..
> whenever you (ABC) broadcast in 5.1 on Time
> Warner Cable's Digital Channel 1810 the center
> channel is never working. I talked to Time
> Warner...they told me I should contact WTEN
> about this problem. But since the signal feed
> is coming from your sister station....should I
> contact them? I'm not the only person that's
> having this issue in our area.....check out
> the forum link below. Thanks, John LuftAlbany,
> NY 12205


The Center Channel isn't working again.

I just e-mailed Skeeter at WTEN.
lufters's Avatar lufters 07:29 PM 10-14-2003
Quote:


Originally posted by lufters
The Center Channel isn't working again.

I just e-mailed Skeeter at WTEN.

It's back
Ultrix's Avatar Ultrix 12:18 PM 10-19-2003
MasterFX1,

Is there any word on TWC picking up ESPN-HD?
lufters's Avatar lufters 06:51 PM 10-19-2003
Quote:
Originally posted by Ultrix
MasterFX1,

Is there any word on TWC picking up ESPN-HD?

I wouldn't hold your breath!
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 07:17 AM 10-20-2003
I believe the hold up with ESPN-HD on TWC is a national contract issue between TWC nationally and Disney (Who owns ESPN). I think there are threads about this in the HDTV/Programming forums.
Ultrix's Avatar Ultrix 12:35 PM 10-20-2003
That sucks, but Disney owns ABC and TWC is carring WTEN-HD, hmm.
Ultrix's Avatar Ultrix 01:46 PM 10-20-2003
For anyone else who is curious, the article about ESPN and TWC is here

After reading it, I am kinda glad that TWC hasn't picked up ESPN-HD yet. I agree with TWC that there shouldn't be additional charges for simulcasting SDTV shows in HDTV. If it was origonal content, I could see charging. I just wish the whole HDTV rollout would go a bit faster though.
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 02:10 PM 10-20-2003
WNYT-DT (NBC) 13-1 (12) is up and running at full power in 1080i! There is also a 13-2 transmitting at 480i, but is only broadcasting color bars.

I see it, and it looks great!

FYI- This is the Capital Regions first OTA HD Full-Power broadcaster. The other Community Tower partner stations should all (except for FOX/WXXA) be up and running within a month or two.
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 02:12 PM 10-20-2003
6-3 WRGB-DT Instant Doppler has been taken offline until bandwidth/pq improvements can be made.
MasterFX1's Avatar MasterFX1 02:14 PM 10-20-2003
Quote:
Originally posted by Ultrix
That sucks, but Disney owns ABC and TWC is carring WTEN-HD, hmm.

WTEN in Albany is NOT owned by Disney. Disney owns the ABC network, not the local affiliate in Albany. Locally, WTEN and WCDC are owned by Young Broadcasting.
BreakStuff's Avatar BreakStuff 07:26 PM 10-20-2003
Welcome to the OTA HD club MasterFX1!

For what it is worth,

I am currently receiving 13-1/13-2 at 44% signal strength on MyHD card.. The WRGB signal was 95-100% a few days ago, but is now currently at 75%.. analog stations stay locked at 100%..

I was thinking that maybe last weeks high winds affected my antenna, however the antenna position has not changed.. The varying strength's may be an indication to the level of work being done on the community tower?..

Anyway it sure is a nice welcome having yet another local channel broadcasting HDTV..
stoder's Avatar stoder 06:24 PM 10-21-2003
After reading MasterFX1's news about WNYT in Albany, I took half a day vacation, rushed home and finished my antenna install. Not much to do, only needed to hook the coax to my receiver. Did a little channel scan and there it was. And it looks great! Can't wait for some HD on NBC tonight!

I'm located in the Hudson Valley (Kingston) about 50 miles from the tower, and get a signal of about 85%. Thought the Catskill Mtns. might be a problem, but I guess NOT. WNYT is VHF, let's just hope that when the UHF'ers come on-line I can get as strong a signal.....
BreakStuff's Avatar BreakStuff 06:16 PM 10-22-2003
Hiya stoder,

Sounds like you are getting excellent reception from your location..what type of HDTV decoder you are using? and have you been experiencing any audio or video drop-outs?
stoder's Avatar stoder 06:52 PM 10-22-2003
I have a Zenith SAT-520 with seperate VHF and UHF antenna's. The UHF is a CM 4248 and the VHF is an Anntennacraft HI-Band 7-13 channel only rig. Both are for fringe area's. On the roof of a 2 story house and about 10 feet above the peak. Also have a CM 7777 pre-amp. Maybe overkill, but the Anntennacraft is rock solid with no dropouts so far, even with the rainy weather tonight. I just hope the CM 4248 performs as well, time will tell, hopefully by the end of November CBS and ABC will start broadcasting. Not sure about WMHT (PBS).

I was raised in Kingston and I remember as a kid having an antenna with a rotor. We mostly pointed it south for the NYC stations and in bad weather towards CT for the stations out of Hartford and New Haven. I have no idea why my Dad never had us "rotate" north for the Albany stations. My Dad is long gone, so I guess the answer went with him. I tried the NYC digital stations but no go. Will try for the CT stations after the rain let's up.....
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