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Question Is there a way to hook up Over the Air (OTA) Antennas, into a receiver, to get surrou

I need help determining if I can find a cheaper alternative,
to the high cost of cable and satellite, by converting to an OVER THE AIR Antenna.

yes, I have been on YouTube looking at these videos, but I need a few recommended antennas, for those of you who have tried this already. Whether a flat window antennas, rabbit ears, or a rooftop powered remote controlled type, are as decent as installing a UHF/FM/TV rooftop powered antenna?
QUESTION:
I know there is a way to connect to a receiver via an Over the Air (OTA) Antennas, to get surround sound, but my TV is wall mounted, and I havent seen 15'-20' foot TOS Lonk Audio for the 5.1 sound.
Hello!
I need to DRASTICALLY cut ties with TIME WARNER, and DO NOT want any long-term contracts, with early termination fees, with any of the satellite companies.

At present, I am with Time Warner, on their "Triple Play" year promotion, that ends next Friday. This plan gave me 200Mbps, Nation wide long-distance to Canada, US, and Mexico, Caller ID, Epix for one year, and basic/broadcast cable channels. No Sports, no pay per view. I usually watch Nat Geo, SyFy, CNN, MSNBC, local stations, Discovery, and also listen to the Music Choice stations, and that's about it, I don't need 5,000 stations.
My SET UP ~
I have two TV's, one is in the main Family room, with a Yamaha 7.1 Surround receiver, connected to a Samsung Smart TV. T/W goes into receiver, then out to TV.
My other TV, in the master bedroom, is not very 'Smart", and is a seven year old, HDMI compliant, Samsung, hooked to an Apple TV, for streaming Netflix.
My PHONE ~
The phone is needed, on my landline to enable me, to send and receive all too important faxes to and from my doctors, and I will not go to Kinko's for this service, if I can help it.
My DEVICES ~
I have an Ipod Touch 5th GEN., and a desktop PC.
An Epson Wi-fi WF 2660 All in one printer.
LOCATION ~
I live in a hilly area, of Southern California, and I don't have good AM/FM reception. So if I do go with a roof top antenna, would I be looking for UHF,TV, with FM? My local stations are about 50 miles away to Los Angeles. I have a 35' sound wall about 50' feet away, for the train, and also wondered if I would need to install this on a higher mask, (over this wall height) or I would be set-back far enough of an angle, to have an unobstructed line of sight for a strong reception.
ANTENNAS ~
After seeing those infomercials on the portable HDMI Digital receivers that you attach to a window, then into your HDMI TV, how would I run this through my surround sound? I saw a "Channel Master". $10.00...Is this a joke? I called best Buy, and he told me about a 'Ultatenna', from Channel master Model # 4221HD. Best buy Sku # 339-5396. $65.00.
Up to 65 Mile range. multi-directional. (14-69 stations)

I am on a very low disability with a rare terminal metastatic tumor cancer and can no longer afford the "luxury" of having cable, as expensive as it is, and only continues to climb, but now, I'm scrambling to find a cheap internet and phone plan.
I thought about ATT and Direct TV, but not sure about their 'come-on' offers of $19.99 (SELECT) per month for first year, then the second year contract is far more expensive, then if you terminate, you owe $15 or so, per month, until the contract has been satisfied.
If anyone at all knows what I am trying to achieve, and can recommend a decent, not too expensive antenna, to be able to run this through my surround system, and also a way to set up my second TV, with this same connection, but without surround, that would make me happy!
So, in closing, is OTA the way to go, or is this far more trouble for me, than it sounds? All I know is, I think I would be happy with only a phone (no contract) and Internet capability, to stream Netflix, and to continue to use my ipod, and desktop PC, as well.
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To get surround sound from OTA:

1. Plug antenna into TV.
2. Connect a digital audio cable - coax or optical (whichever your TV has) - from the digital audio output from on your TV.
3. Connect the other end to the appropriate input on your surround sound receiver. They come in several lengths but if your SS receiver is that far from your TV, there is probably a better way to arrange it.
4. Select the TV input from the SS receiver and then, if needed, configure it to take audio from the digital source, not PCM or analog.
5. Enjoy 5.1 surround sound on many programs on HD channels in your local area. That can vary heavily by market. Where do you live specifically (town and nearby terrain)? That would help a lot with the antenna specific stuff and I will let someone from that area help you with that.
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DD5.1 OTA works fine for me. And I have a 35' Toslink cable going from my TV to my AVR. If you have unused coax, you can always get a coaxial to optical converter.

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This site is helpful. Put in your address or zip It will give you distance and direction as well as color code for antenna needed.
http://www.antennaweb.org/Address
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Could this work?
In my main TV room, my (YAMAHA RX-V675 AVR) All I see on the rear panel is a little box to insert 2 flat AM antenna leads, and the other, is a 75Q FM RADIO round port.

To get surround, I was told to get any standard TV antenna, connect this new antenna, directly to my wall-mounted TV, which is a Smart Samsung LED (UN46H5203AF) this has both optical TOS, and also an "Antenna IN, input".
I would have to run a 20' foot TOS Optical, and a longer coaxial cable from IN/EX antenna to also go into the wall and into the back of this TV. Then I will need to assign the TOS port, to an input of the AVR, like AV3, or AV4, if any of these are open. Does this sound feasible?

I am about 45 miles south of Los Angeles, and live in a hilly area, with no FM radio reception, and spotty AM radio at best! So a few variables abound. Do I want to get an exterior CLEARSTORM 2, or 4, and mount it on the roof of my mobile home, and buy the optional CPA-19 Pre-Amp kit, and use this for my main room, or can I use a coaxial splitter, to share this same antenna with my old dumb Samsung 2008 LCD (LN46A750R1F) (comes with "TOS audio and Antenna IN") in my master bedroom?

OR...
I would have to get a separate antenna for my master bedroom, since I do not have any surround in that room anyway, If I can't share with the Main room, then maybe a separate cheaper indoor antenna, like RCA or MOHU, brand that I hang on the wall, and whether it should be a powered, or amplified type to pull in more channels. I also have a 35' sound wall to my northwest, but unobstructed otherwise, on the other three sides. .

Do I look for only a UHF and VHF, or look for one that can I receive FM/AM reception through this AVR, using a UHF/VHF/FM?
Am I thinking that the "FM" mentioned here, is exactly for radio reception picking up digital music stations instead of the other way I just mentioned, using the FM flat leads?
I do apologize for being a newbie, but I know, that everyone starts out as one. Again, Thank you for all of your replies!
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Keep in mind that TV and FM signals are line-of-sight. If you can not get FM, you may not be able to get OTA TV. Depends if the hills block the path between you and the tower.

As far as a cheap phone, if you get an internet plan, consider Ooma as a telephone provider. It is basically your own VoIP and all you pay are the taxes.

Your best bet still may be your current provider. Call them up and ask to talk to someone in RETENTION. Explain your situation and they likely will try to make a deal to keep you.
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I'm also trying to look into doing this, trying to get rid of Direct TV. I have a Sony 4K TV wall mounted connected to a 7.1 receiver along with a HD direct tv box, and PS4 connected to the receiver, with one HDMI cable running from the receiver to the TV and the PS4 and direct tv box hdmi cables going into the receiver, providing video and audio. The main HDMI cable for the receiver to the TV is behind my wall, I'm hoping to find a way to do this without having to disconnect and take my tv off the wall since it is pretty big. My question is if I get my Direct TV service shut off, I know alot of times they don't even want the Direct TV box back, they just want that card that goes inside, would I be able to hook a OTA antenna to the direct tv box since it has a tuner built in for local broadcast channels and still use the direct tv box and be able to get local HDTV channels? If so my second question would be, if that works well since my direct tv box is connected to my 7.1 receiver via HDMI and the receiver would still be going to the TV, would the OTA reception show on my television?
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Sorry waitsone, once the service is shut off you will not be able to use the box at all.

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Could this work?
In my main TV room, my (YAMAHA RX-V675 AVR) All I see on the rear panel is a little box to insert 2 flat AM antenna leads, and the other, is a 75Q FM RADIO round port.

To get surround, I was told to get any standard TV antenna, connect this new antenna, directly to my wall-mounted TV, which is a Smart Samsung LED (UN46H5203AF) this has both optical TOS, and also an "Antenna IN, input".
I would have to run a 20' foot TOS Optical, and a longer coaxial cable from IN/EX antenna to also go into the wall and into the back of this TV. Then I will need to assign the TOS port, to an input of the AVR, like AV3, or AV4, if any of these are open. Does this sound feasible?

I am about 45 miles south of Los Angeles, and live in a hilly area, with no FM radio reception, and spotty AM radio at best! So a few variables abound. Do I want to get an exterior CLEARSTORM 2, or 4, and mount it on the roof of my mobile home, and buy the optional CPA-19 Pre-Amp kit, and use this for my main room, or can I use a coaxial splitter, to share this same antenna with my old dumb Samsung 2008 LCD (LN46A750R1F) (comes with "TOS audio and Antenna IN") in my master bedroom?

OR...
I would have to get a separate antenna for my master bedroom, since I do not have any surround in that room anyway, If I can't share with the Main room, then maybe a separate cheaper indoor antenna, like RCA or MOHU, brand that I hang on the wall, and whether it should be a powered, or amplified type to pull in more channels. I also have a 35' sound wall to my northwest, but unobstructed otherwise, on the other three sides. .

Do I look for only a UHF and VHF, or look for one that can I receive FM/AM reception through this AVR, using a UHF/VHF/FM?
Am I thinking that the "FM" mentioned here, is exactly for radio reception picking up digital music stations instead of the other way I just mentioned, using the FM flat leads?
I do apologize for being a newbie, but I know, that everyone starts out as one. Again, Thank you for all of your replies!
That's exactly what you should do. Go to the website that golfster posted and see just what you're looking at signal-wise. Also note what physical channels you're dealing with. The vast majority will be UHF, which will let you get a UHF antenna. You can split the antenna cable, which would be the better thing to do for your bedroom TV set. Run your Toslink cable, configure your Yamaha, and enjoy your DD5.1 audio.

CIAO!

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