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post #61 of 10148 Old 06-29-2003, 10:58 AM
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Larry,

I'm about to move to Woodinville (About 200 yards NW of the corner of Paradise Lake Rd and Woodinville-Duvall Rd), and I wanted to know if there a chance for me to get OTA-HD reception there. AntennaWeb says yes, but I not convinced. Could you please check it out for me?

Thank you very much in advance!

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Eric - your line of site looks rather marginal. There is a large hill about 2 miles SW of you. If you can get your antenna on a mast on the roof you might have a chance. I would try borrowing some equipment if you can before investing in your own stuff. Or consult a professional installer. They might be able to give you a more definite answer for a price.

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Thanks Larry, I'll give it a try.

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Larry,

Could you please check the following address:

21802 SE 20th Street
Sammamish

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I'd like to see what I'm fighting here. Of the major channels, I can get 4, 5, and 13 with some dropouts. 7 is nearly impossible. This is with a CM4221 leaning against a post on the roof (I haven't bothered to put up a mast yet).

I'm at the intersection of 228th St. and NE Redmond Fall City Road in Redmond (98053).
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Larry,

Could you please check the following address:

21802 SE 20th Street
Sammamish

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You have no line-of-site problem whatsoever. Any reception problems would be due to local conditions like trees or multipath interference. What sort of problems are you having?

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I'd like to see what I'm fighting here. Of the major channels, I can get 4, 5, and 13 with some dropouts. 7 is nearly impossible. This is with a CM4221 leaning against a post on the roof (I haven't bothered to put up a mast yet).

I'm at the intersection of 228th St. and NE Redmond Fall City Road in Redmond (98053).

I am surprised you get anything. Your elevation is about 200 feet and there is a 550 foot hill about 1 mile WSW that should be blocking all signals. You must be picking up reflections somehow. How steady are your best channels?

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Please check 216th Ave S and 14th Ave S in Des Moines, WA 98198.

The VHF stuff comes in poorly, but UHF is usually OK. I have line of sight to Tacoma proper, more or less, but the SEATAC plateau might be in the way of Seattle. Verizon cellphone reception is very poor. So I'm afraid I might be in a shadow.

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I am surprised you get anything. Your elevation is about 200 feet and there is a 550 foot hill about 1 mile WSW that should be blocking all signals. You must be picking up reflections somehow. How steady are your best channels?

Larry

That's what I figured. It's that Sammamish plateau. If I aim the antenna right, I can get 4 and 5 reasonably solid. I say reasonably because there will usually be an audio dropout or two per show. The Dish 6000 never shows above 80% for either one. I only get 7 on rare days, but it never sticks around for long.

Thanks for checking. I guess I won't put too much more effort into getting OTA signals. Now I just need to cut down some trees so I can get the other satellite slots for the new HDTV packages.
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Originally posted by pbishop
That's what I figured. It's that Sammamish plateau. If I aim the antenna right, I can get 4 and 5 reasonably solid. I say reasonably because there will usually be an audio dropout or two per show. The Dish 6000 never shows above 80% for either one. I only get 7 on rare days, but it never sticks around for long.

Thanks for checking. I guess I won't put too much more effort into getting OTA signals. Now I just need to cut down some trees so I can get the other satellite slots for the new HDTV packages.

So your OTA HD choices are wait for Comcast or go with Bell ExpressVu from Canada, since they carry some of the Seattle locals.

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Larry and all, hello.
I am a new owner of Samsung DTV(HLN431/SIRT165/DVDHD931)equipment. I am trying for OTA reception and would like an assesment of my location. My LOS distance is only ~10 miles due west, I am in Bremerton, 710 NW Fairwood way, corner Fairwood and Nels Nelson. I am a Ham and have a 50' tower avalible. I have a CM 3023 yagi and 7775 preamp ready to try(anyone want to climb a tower) thanks in advance
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Originally posted by Al Shing
Please check 216th Ave S and 14th Ave S in Des Moines, WA 98198.

The VHF stuff comes in poorly, but UHF is usually OK. I have line of sight to Tacoma proper, more or less, but the SEATAC plateau might be in the way of Seattle. Verizon cellphone reception is very poor. So I'm afraid I might be in a shadow.

Thanks

Al - your elevation is about 160 feet and the hill/plateau to the north is about 400 feet at 3/4 mile from you. This makes your LOS very marginal. You may get reception but probably not steady. Your situation would be helped considerably by a tall mast on the roof of your (tall?) house.

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Larry and all, hello.
I am a new owner of Samsung DTV(HLN431/SIRT165/DVDHD931)equipment. I am trying for OTA reception and would like an assesment of my location. My LOS distance is only ~10 miles due west, I am in Bremerton, 710 NW Fairwood way, corner Fairwood and Nels Nelson. I am a Ham and have a 50' tower avalible. I have a CM 3023 yagi and 7775 preamp ready to try(anyone want to climb a tower) thanks in advance
Mike

Mike - your elevation is 225 feet and you have a 280 foot hill due east about 1/3 mile. The angle from the ground over that peak just misses the tower tops on QA hill. So if you can get your antenna even 25 feet off the ground you have a good chance at clear reception. Now 50 feet would guarantee it. If you used something like a CM 4228 you could hang it part way up the mast due its flat profile. I take it the yagi is not mounted. What IS at the top of that tower?

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sounds great! well at the top of the tower is a 6 ele. 3band yagi on a 24ft boom, on top of the 10 foot mast is a 11 ele. 2m yagi. and the 3023 will fit real nice inbetween the pair at ~ 53', rotatable. now, there are many 100' fir trees close by, so I am going to add an CM 7777 just so i dont have to go back up the tower. I tryed an RS ant. at about 20' with cheap coax and could only get 13-1 & 13-2. i figured i was loosing more in the coax than i was getting from the ant. thanks i will keep you posted on my results
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Larry,

Don't know if you're getting sick of this yet, but... if you aren't, I'm at:

32424 NE 136th Street
Duvall, WA 98019

Using a Silver Sensor I've been able to get a couple of Bellevue shopping channels, and some blips on a couple of other channels. Nothing good.
I've tried the Channel Master 8 bay bowtie (forgot the model #) at different locations outside, but the best results so far have been with the Silver Sensor in the house. I use different dishes and receivers to get HD, but would like to get rid of one satellite subscription if possible.

Thanks for your time!

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6Dishes: I'm about 1.5 miles up NE Big Rock road from the "new" Safeway and I get all the local HD channels fine (NBC sometimes glitches as its around 77% but all others are 100%) - Got an antenna, preamp and antennutor.. Antenna is mounted just about gutter height on back of house.
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I'm up Big Rock, north of the Stillwater church. I don't know if you're familiar with Kelly Road, but I'm west of Kelly Road, up the hill from the swamp. I have a UM 1000A for mpeg, MY HD for local, and a Digicypher HD decoder for DC2 signals.

Lots of satellite related HD, but my wife just wants the locals. She'd be happy with KOMO. Hope you guys can help me out...

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Larry,

Don't know if you're getting sick of this yet, but... if you aren't, I'm at:

32424 NE 136th Street
Duvall, WA 98019

Using a Silver Sensor I've been able to get a couple of Bellevue shopping channels, and some blips on a couple of other channels. Nothing good.
I've tried the Channel Master 8 bay bowtie (forgot the model #) at different locations outside, but the best results so far have been with the Silver Sensor in the house. I use different dishes and receivers to get HD, but would like to get rid of one satellite subscription if possible.

Thanks for your time!

Jeff

Jeff - your elevation is about 525 feet and there is a 550 foot hill SW of you about 1/8 mile. If you get your antenna high enough you should have a good shot at the QA towers. The CM 4228 is the antenna you referred to. It is the one I use and lots of others as well. It should work well if you get it at leat 20 feet or so off the ground. It is fairly directional.

And, no, I'm not sick of it yet, just deposit another 25 cents...

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And, no, I'm not sick of it yet, just deposit another 25 cents...

Larry>


Thanks Larry,

You give me hope! I probably just haven't found the right spot yet. I have a bunch of trees around me, and haven't tried the CM again since I took some down.

Your 25 cents is in the bank, but you really should up your rates...

I appreciate the info. Thanks!
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anyone notice audio drop-out on miami csi last night ..7/7
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Had all sorts of semi-continuous audio glitches on CBS in Seattle the last few days....
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Just curious, does anyone have a good estimate of the number of OTA DTV users in the Seattle area? How fast/slow is it growing, or does it grow? Perhaps we can count ourselves and friends/neighbors. OK, I am one.
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I am one too! ... for a total of two counted so far.

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I wish i found this thread before I bought my Samsung t151 and Channel Master 4221. They will be arriving is the next couple of days. Can you check my location for the the changes of getting a good OTA.
I live in the Millcreek area 54th ave SE and Puget park drive. The air in that direction looks good to me, but it sounds like big hills can mess things. The big question is will I have OTA equipment for sale....Thanks Mike
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I wish i found this thread before I bought my Samsung t151 and Channel Master 4221. They will be arriving is the next couple of days. Can you check my location for the the changes of getting a good OTA.
I live in the Millcreek area 54th ave SE and Puget park drive. MY address 14929 54th ave se.
The air in that direction looks good to me, but it sounds like big hills can mess things. The big question is will I have OTA equipment for sale....Thanks Mike
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Larry,

I'm sick of waiting for Comcast. Can you run the following intersection?

143rd St SE & 61st Ave SE
Everett, WA
98208

This is in the Silver Firs housing development just NE of Mill Creek. I have a two story house and plan on putting an antenna about 8 ft above the roof line so figure about 35ft. above the ground. A roof mounted antenna would actually be going against CC&R for my association. I'm debating whether to just try it and hope nobody complains (would be mostly hid by trees) or using an attic antenna. Given this situation and my distance from the main towers in Seattle (don't care about the Tacoma tower or any others) what would you guys recommend for both situations? Assuming I have a chance at reception anyway. According to AntennaWeb.org I just barely clear a large tree when aiming at Queen Anne and Capitol Hill. The only other thing I see when looking that direction is sky. There are tons of trees in all other directions though.

Also very curious if anybody knows the answer to this question. When the stations cease analog broadcasts and go strictly digital will they start broadcasting digital on VHF? If so, would digital VHF be easier or more difficult to receive. I was thinking a UHF antenna on my roof would be less noticed than a huge VHF/UHF combo. If VHF would work good in the attic I'd probably be OK.

Thanks for any help.

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I'm an OTA'er.

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Wow Big_Dawg! You're only a few blocks away from me (1/4 mile or less). Perhaps if Larry gives you a no go and it looks good for me you've already got a buyer for your equipment.

Actually, I've often wished I was where you are at. From just eyeballing it you're probably slightly higher in elevation from me and I know your division in Silver Firs has way fewer trees than where I'm at. In either case I think we're both at a fairly high elevation. We're actually on a huge hill when you think about it as the Snohomish valley is just .5 to 1 mile NE of us. It's quite a long steep hill to drive down Seattle Hill Rd. into the valley and driving down Mill Creek Rd. to the Bothell Everett Highway is also pretty steep. The question is is there anything higher between us and the towers. That's what Larry can tell us. What do you say Larry?

Keep me posted Mike on your reception. You sticking that antenna in your attic or risking a CC&R violation? Don't know what kind of HT equipment you have but if you want to check out a 110" diagonal FP system let me know. Noticed your a new member. WELCOME!

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Yes I'm on a little higher ground than you are and I will also be installing it on a 2 story house. I suppose I will be risking a CC&R but what are they going to do tell me to take it down. So I'm rebel. Only 2 houses can see it...
It will be sitting right next to my (2) dishes and the the 4221 channel master is small in size and looks more like a BBQ grill then a antenna. What are you doing next week I need someone to tell me I've got the ant. in the right spot. It better work I had to work the wife hard on this one.
It will be good practice for your when Larry gives us the thumbs up. Hit me with another PM....Big Dawg.
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