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post #10171 of 10200 Old 02-01-2015, 08:56 PM
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Anyone know why I can get KIRO 7-1 just fine, but cannot get KING at all? I live in Marysville and am using an Antennas Direct 91XG mounted in the attic. No matter where I point it, I cannot get KING (or KOMO for that matter). Can't post my tv fool results yet since I don't have 5 posts. Jeff
KIRO-TV has a low-power translator for Everett/Marysville. It transmits on a different frequency than the main Seattle transmitter, but it maps out to channel 7.1 (the RF channel is 17).
http://www.kirotv.com/news/entertain...slators/nDqkh/

Additionally, Everett has a low-power translator for KZJO which maps out to channel 22.1 (the RF channel is 29). Besides KIRO and KZJO, which other stations are you able to receive? If you are using a highly-directional XG91 Yagi, it might be worth checking your TV Fool mapping and tinkering around with things.

If you can find a post by DanKurts, send him a PM. Although he specializes in custom A/V installations, he is very knowlegeable about the performance of TV antennas in specific neighborhoods and specific types of houses.
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Thanks. Do any of you guys know of local shops in the greater Seattle/Lynwood/Puget Sound area that sell good antennas? Not looking at the best buys of the world, more of the specialty shops.
Fry's Electronics in Renton carries some RCA, Channel Master and Antennas Direct models. I recall that McLendon's Hardware carries a couple of RCA antennas. You might want to PM DanKurts on this thread, he performs a lot of custom A/V installs and could point you in the right direction as well as offer his opinions on specific antennas.
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KIRO-TV has a low-power translator for Everett/Marysville. It transmits on a different frequency than the main Seattle transmitter, but it maps out to channel 7.1 (the RF channel is 17).


Additionally, Everett has a low-power translator for KZJO which maps out to channel 22.1 (the RF channel is 29). Besides KIRO and KZJO, which other stations are you able to receive? If you are using a highly-directional XG91 Yagi, it might be worth checking your TV Fool mapping and tinkering around with things.

If you can find a post by DanKurts, send him a PM. Although he specializes in custom A/V installations, he is very knowlegeable about the performance of TV antennas in specific neighborhoods and specific types of houses.
Here are the channels that I am getting right now. Many are at the same azimuth as KING at similar tx power I believe.
4.1
4.2
4.3
7.1
7.2
11.1
12.1
12.2
12.3
13.1
20.1
20.2
20.3
20.4
20.5
22.1
22.2
22.3
24.1
24.2
28.1
28.2
28.3
51.1
51.2
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jtostenr, King is touchy way the heck up here (snohomish). I had to add a signal booster and theres a rather narrow aim for me sometimes. (wonder if my antenna rotor 'walks')
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Everything has changed... all the channel numbers that is. Seemingly as I type... I'm confused...

I came here hoping someone knew what was up. Is it storm related or some kind of upgrade or channel swap?

Getting the network channels on 48 now if I'm not mistaken. I don't remember that existing before.

Using rabbit ears in Edmonds

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Everything has changed... all the channel numbers that is. Seemingly as I type... I'm confused...

Getting the network channels on 48 now if I'm not mistaken. I don't remember that existing before.
KING transmits 5.1 and 5.2 on channels 48.1 and 48.2. Your TV should remap the channels to 5.1 and 5.2 based on the PSIP information in the broadcast stream.

Try re-scanning channels on your TV. In most cases, that should clear things up.

I've seen a couple of receivers over the years that had a really difficult time recovering from corrupt PSIP data. The fix for those was to disconnect the antenna and do a full scan (clearing everything), then reconnecting the antenna and doing another full scan (re-adding everything.)

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Lost local SD channels

Hopefully I'm in the right forum.

I just realized this week (I'm in the Bellevue area), that I've lost several of the local SD channels - Komo 4, King 5, Kong 6, KCTS 9, KZJO 10, and KSTW 11. The screen message just show no TV signal detected. Surprisingly, CBS 7 and FOX 13 aren't affected. I can get them in HD however (channels 104, 105, etc).

I have a cable card and Silicondust Prime with Windows Media Center if that makes a difference. Have I missed some Comcast changes or does anyone know what could be causing this? Appreciate your help.
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Hopefully I'm in the right forum.

Have I missed some Comcast changes or does anyone know what could be causing this? Appreciate your help.

This would be the OTA (over the air forum) for Seattle. Come back if you cut the cable. What you want now is Seattle, WA - Comcast Good luck
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According to the KVOS Bellingham Facebook page, their sister station KFFV Seattle has added a new sub-channel being 44.6. It carries a simulcast of the KVOS METV service, extending METV's footprint further south than is possible from the KVOS Orcas transmitter. Expect some quirk remedy over the nest week or two, but it's now on the air.

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MeTV is live on 44.6!

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According to the KVOS Bellingham Facebook page, their sister station KFFV Seattle has added a new sub-channel being 44.6. It carries a simulcast of the KVOS METV service, extending METV's footprint further south than is possible from the KVOS Orcas transmitter. Expect some quirk remedy over the nest week or two, but it's now on the air.
MeTV is live on KFFV 44.6 today! Obviously KFFV is doing quite a bandwidth juggling act with six channels, although unlike KWPX (of which the .1 ION programming is supposedly HD), all of KFFV's channels are SD.

KVOS' transmitter up on Mt. Constitution, along with a blowtorch 580kw transmitter (quite high power given the HAAT) does have a huge geographic reach. However, given the limitations of digital TV combined with curvature of the earth, reception in the Seattle-Bellevue area is spotty. Their transmitter is almost 89 miles from my house as the crow flies, and on TV Fool the signal strength AGL is -8.7 dB, it only improves to about -8.0 db at 20 feet HAAT, so having the KVOS feed retransmitted on 44.6 is fantastic!

PQ on 44.6 is mid-def. There's some motion blur caused by the limited bitrate. This is typical when a station runs six subchannels. One thing I did notice, however, while watching M*A*S*H* during the past half-hour, is that the MeTV KVOS commercials are LOUD. I'm sure they have developed audio technology which manipulates the audio dB level, so that these LOUD MeTV commercials comply with the FCC'S CALM regulations governing the loudness of commercial advertising.

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Cox has announced that KIRO will add a new sub-channel soon for the April launch of LAFF TV. This new diginet from ABC and Scripps will be formated to keep your laughing, and hopefully ABC and Scripps laughing all the way to the bank. The new service is set to launch mid-April across the US, and will most likely be aired on KIRO 7.3. The network has already launched a Facebook page: https://www.facebook.com/lafftvnetwork

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Hi, I’m planning to install antenna in attic but I’m not sure which one would be the best.
Here is the result from TVFool.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...f1f019dcd2f415
I want to pick up NBC, Fox, CBS and ABC. I don’t watch any other channels.
A few antennas I’m thinking are AntennaCraft HBU33, Winegard HD7694, Channel Master 4228 or Amazonbasics Outdoor 60 miles.
I prefer CH4228 or Amazonbasics, if they work, due to their smaller size. Or please let me know if there is a better one.
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Has anyone else here noticed a stuttering in the frame rate on KSTW's CW programming? I notice it when watching the Flash and iZombie. Audio is fine, but the stuttering (dropped frames?) are pretty annoying.



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KING transmits 5.1 and 5.2 on channels 48.1 and 48.2. Your TV should remap the channels to 5.1 and 5.2 based on the PSIP information in the broadcast stream.

Try re-scanning channels on your TV. In most cases, that should clear things up.

I've seen a couple of receivers over the years that had a really difficult time recovering from corrupt PSIP data. The fix for those was to disconnect the antenna and do a full scan (clearing everything), then reconnecting the antenna and doing another full scan (re-adding everything.)

Good luck!
Thank You!

I was a bit hasty in my panic. Everything went back to normal the next day. After a rescan, just as you suggested. (I didn't have to do a disconnected scan on my 2007 Samsung)
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Need a little help getting an antenna on my roof. I'm too old and fat to be climbing around up there. Have existing coax, need to mount an antenna and probably an amplifier. Not sure if its kosher to ask for reccomendations here, but I would like to employ someone who knows a little about the subject if the person can be found.

Any suggestions for antenna installers near Edmonds?
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Has anyone else here noticed a stuttering in the frame rate on KSTW's CW programming? I notice it when watching the Flash and iZombie. Audio is fine, but the stuttering (dropped frames?) are pretty annoying.

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Wow, I thought it was just me!

Yes, at times ch11 - KSTW can be nearly unwatchable. FLASH does seem to be the worst. Generally the commercials seem fine. I have heard some stations are speeding-up the frame rate to get more commercials in - maybe that's what is going on.

I use Windows Media Center. Often, if I skip-back to replay a particularly bad section, it may play smoothly or stutter/pause/skip different frames than before. This is why I thought it was unique to my setup.

If others are seeing this I guess it is time to contact KSTW.

I think it was Wednesday, April 1st - nearly all of The Arrow was just "black screen" - anybody else see that?
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I think it was Wednesday, April 1st - nearly all of The Arrow was just "black screen" - anybody else see that?
I recorded that episode and saw the black screen too after a couple of minutes when I tried to watch it. I use Windows Media Center too and I thought maybe the tuner encountered something in the stream that it couldn't handle.
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Has anyone else noticed a new subchannel for KIRO? One of my TVs started picking up 7-3, though it doesn't appear to have any content at the moment. I don't know when it first appeared, maybe sometime in the last week or so, though I can't say for certain.
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Whoops, ignore my last post, I should have read 10182 above.
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Wow, I thought it was just me!

Yes, at times ch11 - KSTW can be nearly unwatchable. FLASH does seem to be the worst. Generally the commercials seem fine. I have heard some stations are speeding-up the frame rate to get more commercials in - maybe that's what is going on.

I use Windows Media Center. Often, if I skip-back to replay a particularly bad section, it may play smoothly or stutter/pause/skip different frames than before. This is why I thought it was unique to my setup.

If others are seeing this I guess it is time to contact KSTW.

I think it was Wednesday, April 1st - nearly all of The Arrow was just "black screen" - anybody else see that?
April 1st we were struck by lightning at the transmitter site for KSTW CW11 and that's why our show went dark for the hour. regarding the flashing/pixelation on some recent network shows....we're getting C band interference on our satellite dishes from a radar in the boeing field vicinity. lately its' been gone and the shows have been fine.

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Temporary KSTW CW11 on 4/1

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April 1st we were struck by lightning at the transmitter site for KSTW CW11 and that's why our show went dark for the hour. regarding the flashing/pixelation on some recent network shows....we're getting C band interference on our satellite dishes from a radar in the boeing field vicinity. lately its' been gone and the shows have been fine.

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Thank you for the explanation. It is appreciated!
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Hi, I’m planning to install antenna in attic but I’m not sure which one would be the best.
Here is the result from TVFool.
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...f1f019dcd2f415
I want to pick up NBC, Fox, CBS and ABC. I don’t watch any other channels.
A few antennas I’m thinking are AntennaCraft HBU33, Winegard HD7694, Channel Master 4228 or Amazonbasics Outdoor 60 miles.
I prefer CH4228 or Amazonbasics, if they work, due to their smaller size. Or please let me know if there is a better one.
Thanks in advance
Anyone?
I'm really wondering if directional antenna like HBU33 is ok or if I need multidirectional like CH4228.

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Has anyone else noticed a new subchannel for KIRO? One of my TVs started picking up 7-3, though it doesn't appear to have any content at the moment.
I noticed this morning, it's on the air, now, with LAFF, as expected.
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I noticed this morning, it's on the air, now, with LAFF, as expected.
Yes, I didn't see the earlier post about the new sub channel. I was really disappointed to find that they are broadcasting in the wrong aspect ratio. It is sad that stretched 4:3 is considered the standard for that sort of content.
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After emailing KIRO, they said they've made some adjustments to fix the aspect ratio. It is cool that they've been so responsive.
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Yet another antenna reception question... After having read the most recent ~20 pages of this thread, I feel like I know what the answer is going to be. Just in case I'm wrong, here goes:

My TVFool link. I'm in the Central Area near Garfield. I have an RCA751R outdoor antenna mounted on the edge of my 2nd story roof about 13' off of the ground. This is fed into a fairly good two-leg passive splitter, one leg goes to a TiVo Roamio OTA and the other to a TiVo HD. If I aim the antenna at Issaquah, I get KWPX fairly well, KING, KOMO, and KCTS really well, and basically everything else (like KONG, KCPQ, KBTC, and some of the lesser-knowns like KVOS) stutters and macroblocks. If I aim it towards Queen Anne, KING works but everything else is stuck in macroblock hell. KCPQ/KZJO/KONG all pretty much elude me. There's a tall tree in my backyard, another out by the front, and a building roughly the same height as my house sitting directly to the north. I can't easily get into my attic or onto the top of my roof to put the antenna there. I've tried putting attenuators in line with the antenna to quiet down the signal on the theory that I'm overloading the receivers but that didn't help. I've tried aiming it every which way, including at right angles to the towers so the antenna gets signal off of the sides. A square, indoor-style antenna works about as well as the outdoor one.

Any suggestions for what else can I do? Get more height? Give it up and subscribe to basic cable? (In my area, Wave says that its cheapest package is $26.)

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Yet another antenna reception question... After having read the most recent ~20 pages of this thread, I feel like I know what the answer is going to be. Just in case I'm wrong, here goes:

My TVFool link. I'm in the Central Area near Garfield. I have an RCA751R outdoor antenna mounted on the edge of my 2nd story roof about 13' off of the ground. This is fed into a fairly good two-leg passive splitter, one leg goes to a TiVo Roamio OTA and the other to a TiVo HD. If I aim the antenna at Issaquah, I get KWPX fairly well, KING, KOMO, and KCTS really well, and basically everything else (like KONG, KCPQ, KBTC, and some of the lesser-knowns like KVOS) stutters and macroblocks. If I aim it towards Queen Anne, KING works but everything else is stuck in macroblock hell. KCPQ/KZJO/KONG all pretty much elude me. There's a tall tree in my backyard, another out by the front, and a building roughly the same height as my house sitting directly to the north. I can't easily get into my attic or onto the top of my roof to put the antenna there. I've tried putting attenuators in line with the antenna to quiet down the signal on the theory that I'm overloading the receivers but that didn't help. I've tried aiming it every which way, including at right angles to the towers so the antenna gets signal off of the sides. A square, indoor-style antenna works about as well as the outdoor one.

Any suggestions for what else can I do? Get more height? Give it up and subscribe to basic cable? (In my area, Wave says that its cheapest package is $26.)
The Queen Anne transmitters are 1-Edge and 2-Edge signals, not a clear line-of-sight. Combined with interference from the blowtorch transmitters three-quarters of a mile from your home, I'm not sure what you can do. Maybe something to try (this is not a joke) is using a simple paperclip as an antenna, simply slip it into the TV's RF input. It's not clear if that will address the KING/KIRO/KOMO/KONG/KUNS macroblocking, since you also mentioned there are many tall trees.

DanKurts, if you see this thread, do you have any ideas?
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Anyone?... I'm really wondering if directional antenna like HBU33 is ok or if I need multidirectional like CH4228.
It appears that there is a hill obstructing your reception of stations from Seattle. All of the Seattle transmitters are showing as having a 2-Edge path, not a line of sight. I suppose in theory you could put up some heroically tall 50-foot tower and maybe it would work, but there's no absolutely no guarantees. See the following explanation from TV Fool at https://www.tvfool.com/index.php?opt...57#how_to_read

"PATH: This indicates the path travelled by the signal to get from the transmitter to your location.
LOS: Line-of-sight
1Edge: Single edge diffraction
2Edge: Double edge diffraction
Tropo: Tropospheric scatter


With an indoor antenna, it looks like you can receive KVOS, KBCB and K24I-C from Mt. Constitution. Curiously, TV Fool shows that at your location you are in a 1Edge diffraction from some Canadian channels. In theory, there is a remote chance using a deep-fringe Yagi that you might be able to receive CBUT, CIVT, and CHNM. Again, that is in theory. It's much less likely you could pick up CHAN, CIVI, CBUFT and CKVU because of cochannel interference. It might not be worth a lot of effort and expense, but that is in theory.
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Originally Posted by seatacboy View Post
Combined with interference from the blowtorch transmitters three-quarters of a mile from your home, I'm not sure what you can do. Maybe something to try (this is not a joke) is using a simple paperclip as an antenna, simply slip it into the TV's RF input.
Thanks for replying, I appreciate the suggestions. I tried the paper clip and nothing but KCTS comes in. It's a mystery to me why one channel from the same tower will work but another won't, but I suppose that's the vagaries of RF. What are your thoughts on putting the antenna higher? The building next to me is approximately 30' off of the ground, about 5' taller than the point of my roof. If I get an antenna up to the 40' mark, would that possibly help? TV Fool still has the same results for 1Edge vs LOS if I put 38' AGL, for what it's worth.
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