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Mister B's Avatar Mister B
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Today I e-mailed dsomes@kdbc.com and asked that the time and EPG be corrected. For some time it has been off by one hour. I mostly rely on Titantv.com for my listings but it is frustrating that even when just switching channels the incorrect information is displayed. I also am considering the purchase of a D-VHS recorder and it uses the station provided EPG to set up a on screen grid for easy HD recording. The time is also incorrect at KFOX by being fast about 5 minutes. I have never aquired a good contact there or had any positive results in regards to technical problems. If anyone has influence with KFOX it would be appreciated.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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The problem with kdbc is that they don't update the guide. I'm sure that it still says that surviver is on thursday at 7, not that I would know cuz I don't watch that crap. It still says that "how I met your mother" is on monday at 7. They show Infomercials from 1 - 2 in the morning, but the guide says that CBS News Up to the Minute is on from 1:07 - 4 AM.
Also the people at Kfox don't take into account that The 9 PM news ends at 10:05 PM. The Guide says that Frasier starts at 12:30 AM, but it actually starts at 12:35 AM.
SRD's Avatar SRD
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Okay, our bill from Terrible Warner came in. $154/month for HD. Ouch. I asked about dropping some channels, and it would actually cause our rates to increase.
Need input on the different HD SAT TV and the different providers in the ELP area from those who have it. Not interested in movie channels (such as HBO), just the basics plus sports.
Also, while doing this, what do I do to get the local channels in HD?
Thanks for the help.
Mister B's Avatar Mister B
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In the El Paso area (if you have a clear view of all of the towers on the Franklin Mnts.) a good outdoor antenna will deliver 4,7,9 and 14 in HD. KCOS provides a national PBS HD feed as well as a copy of their own channel in SD. KDBC provides a sub-channel that is America One (mostly black and white very old shows) in the day and Mynetwork during primetime. KVIA provides the CW on a sub-channel as well as all weather and Spanish videos. KTSM has the very informative Weather Plus on a sub-channel. The religous KSCE in available in digital SD as are copies of the Univision and Telefutura stations. Some people claim to get Telemundo, but it must be very weak. From Juarez they have a very good feed of the Azteca HD channel as well as copies of their channels 32 and 11.
At this time all of these digital channels are on UHF and a good outdoor UHF antenna is all that is needed. However, after the 2009 cut off of analog transmittion, channels 7,9 and 13 plan to go back down to their VHF frequencies, so I would recommend installation of a combination UHF/VHF antenna.
The satellite companies are much like cable in that if you want service, you need to take large packages, especially to get HD and they are moving more to leased equipment and long term contracts.
I hope you find this information helpful.
memikee's Avatar memikee
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$154 - ouch! Sat's way cheaper (about 1/2) but not that much HD on DTV.
miner's Avatar miner
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SRD,

I'm in the Seattle area but grew up in El Paso and my folks still live there, and have Dish. W/out HD, the bill is $55 for the mid package (around 250 channels), including locals, for 2 receivers. Adding HD is $20 more a month, and a DVR $6 for about $85. That is for about 27 national HD channels and as mentioned, the local channels in HD over the air.

There are lots of promises about more HD channels "Coming soon" on both Dish and DirecTV and cable. Of my 27 national channels, I watch about 10 - 15 with any regularity. Some play the same show over and over, or are not my cup of tea. Sometimes, though, watching Halloween in HD is just worth it.

Miner
DrLar's Avatar DrLar
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07-04-2007 | Posts: 4,193
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20-1 and 13-1 are good channels to test your equipment, as they transmit most of the day on HD, 20-1 is mostly movies of 2003-2005 year and some documentaries, 13-1 is all documentaries..

And of course being summer most primetime HD shows are off, a few repeats here and there, the replacement shows are broadcasted in regular SD (480i/p) like Hell's kitchen
elpasoed's Avatar elpasoed
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07-13-2007 | Posts: 1
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hi all,

I am new to El Paso and I'm considering getting HD service for my new HD TV. I don't want movies but definitely NEED ESPN and Fox Sports. What are people getting between Time Warner, DirectTV and Dish??

Thanks in advance!

-el paso ed-
cube799's Avatar cube799
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07-14-2007 | Posts: 576
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These are the channels for Time Warner Cable.
Time Warner Channels

They are going to add ESPN2 HD on channel 896, or already added it. I don't know since I don't have Cable just Roadrunner.

These are the HD Channels you should get, plus the digital Sub channels.

13 EL Paso CW
366 KTSM Weather Plus
367 KVIA Weather Channel
513 KVIA LATV
860 KTSM DT
865 KDBC DT
866 KDBC My Network TV
870 KFOX DT
875 KVIA DT
880 KCOS HD
890 Discovery HD Theater
893 TNT HD
894 FSN HD
895 ESPN HD
897 MOJO HD
899 HDNet
900 HDNet Movies
901 Universal HD

You won't be able to get the Mexican HD Channels, or the KFOX Weather Channel with cable, they're only available OTA. The Channels are:

11-1 XHCJE HD
14-2 KFOX Weather Channel
20-1 XHCJH HD
32-1 XEPM HD

As far as I know, neither Directv or Dish Network have our local HD channels Available.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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Just in Case Anyone Cares I Made A Thread About Mexican HDTV.
DrLar's Avatar DrLar
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Nice info, but talking about US and Mexico, combined you get Univision and Telefutura, which both of them transmit in 480 or you can "stretch-o-vision' them with your TV, absolutely nothing is transmited in HD in those 2 channels, Univision is supposedly rich, why the heck have they bought any HD infrastructure? they should be able to broadcast all Televisa HD shows plus their own shows, like the news, sabado gigante, and even some movies.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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here's an Idea I had:

We all know that KVIA has to give back either channel 7 or 17 one day, But what if they decide to somehow keep both channels. either by applying for a license or however a company goes about doing something like that. That way they could show KVIA HD, storm track weather, and LATV on Channel 7, and they could show The CW HD, the TUBE and maybe another channel on 17. I figure that if anyone has the money to do this it would be EL Paso's News Leader. KDBC could also decide to have two channels CBS HD and MYNet HD.

This is how I see EL Paso DTV In 2010:

2-1 Televisa Channel 5 HD
4-1 KDBC HD
4-2 AccuWeather
5-1 XEJ HD
7-1 KVIA HD
7-2 Storm Track Weather
7-3 LATV
9-1 KTSM HD
9-2 NBC Weather Plus
11-1 Azteca 25 HD
11-2 Azteca 24 HD (Remapped from 36-1)
13-1 PBS HD
13-2 KCOS
13-3 V-ME
14-1 KFOX HD
14-2 KFOX Weather
17-1 CW HD
17-2 The Tube
18-1 MYNet HD
20-1 Azteca 7 HD
22-1 PBS HD
22-2 KRWG
22-3 Create
26-1 Univision HD
26-2 KINT weather
32-1 Canal De Las Estrelas HD
38-1 KSCE HD
40-1 Multimedios HD
40-2 Multimedios Music Channel
44-1 Canal 44 HD
48-1 KTDO HD
56-1 XHJUB HD
65-1 Telefutura HD

Well That's enough DayDreaming for Today.
DrLar's Avatar DrLar
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5-1 XEJ HD <--- don't think so, I think they will do until Mexico's FCC mandates, and being the low band (Ch 2-6) I think it will be the last channel ever to change to digital.

I suppose that because it's the poorest channel of them all, they have been in the same building since they started and I bet most of the equipment they have is ancient. They re-transmit some Mexico City's "Galavision", maybe they can provide the equipment to at least transmit SD.
Mister B's Avatar Mister B
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I just sent an e-mail to dsomes@kdbc.com and asked if there is any way he could get the audio on 4-2 to come out of both sides. I realize that the America One network is probably just mono but it is rather odd on just one speaker. Mynetwork shows are in stereo. We will see what happens.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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Is anyone else getting a really weak signal on 4-1 an 4-2? I'm getting about 20 to 30% signal, but the weird thing is that there are no dropouts, or pixelation. Normally their signal is at about 50 or so.
FRANK43's Avatar FRANK43
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I get a 6 out of 10 here in the northeast close to rushing and salem. I used to get a 9 or 10
cube799's Avatar cube799
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KCOS just started sending guide data again,after not sending it this whole week. The thing is the seem to be sending it wrong, 13-1 is sending the data from 13-2, and vice versa. Also 13-3, and 13-4 aren't even sending the PSIP Data. They're still there, but they're on 30-5 and 30-6.
Also would it be possible to get the Las Cruces DTV stations, KRWG DT, and KTDO DT, from EL Paso with a strong enough antenna? Right now I can barely get the KRWG analog channel with my TERK HDTVa. If I were to hook up the outdoor Antenna on my roof, would I be able to get these stations, Or would I need a Long Range Antenna?
CANNON-FODDER's Avatar CANNON-FODDER
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Looking at the Service Contour Maps, it seems like I should, but I do not see it on my bedroom Sony. I only have rabbit ears, but get 30, 38.1, 51.1 & the like fine...


KTDO @ FCC.GOV
KRWG @ FCC.GOV

v/r,
C-F
tcutty's Avatar tcutty
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I've lost channel 4 (no signal at all) for about the past week in Las Cruces. ANybody know what's up with them?
cube799's Avatar cube799
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I'm getting channel 4 here in El Paso. The weird thing is that I'm getting a signal of 20-30% since about the 14th, but I'm not getting any dropouts or pixelation. I normally get a signal of about 50-60%. I posted about this a couple of days ago, look at post #645.
MesaHills's Avatar MesaHills
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcutty View Post

I've lost channel 4 (no signal at all) for about the past week in Las Cruces. ANybody know what's up with them?

Same here (not the Las Cruces part, I live in El Paso). KDBC (both 4-1 and 4-2) used to be one of the strongest signals at about 75%-80%, now nada.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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Well whatever was wrong with KDBC DT, it seem to be fixed. At around 11 AM, the 4-1 and 4-2 channels were gone, but now They're back and at about 70% signal. Also since about 1 or 2 days ago the KCOS guide problem is fixed, and 13-3 and 13-4 are back.
MesaHills's Avatar MesaHills
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Thanks for the heads-up Cube799, just before I posted I had removed KDBC from my Favorites list and was no longer checking it!

It's back at 75%, as though it never left.

Now I can go back to my usual lurking self.

And FWIW, Thank You to everyone that contributes, I've gotten a massive amount of great info from you!
FRANK43's Avatar FRANK43
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My signal strength is back to 9 out of 10
Mister B's Avatar Mister B
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I have had a moderate sized UHF only antenna mounted at 25 feet, pointed at Las Cruces for years to get KRWG (analog) here in Montana Vista. It is a bit snowy but very watchable. I do not see any sign of KRWG digital on channel 23. The problem is that there are not from the same tower. The analog station has always been from a very tall tower up on the west mesa and I believe the digital station is just off a small tower on the campus of NMSU. They plan to put 23 on "A" Mountain but that still will be a different geometry to get it in El Paso as it is much closer to the Oregon Mountains. As far as Telemundo, I believe it is off of the tallest building in Las Cruces (10 stories) and also not possible here. Possibly people on the West Side of El Paso may have better luck with these Las Cruces stations.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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According to tvguide.com, KRWG DT now has V-me(spanish PBS) on channel 22-3, Can anyone who gets the digital station confirm this. If this is true it makes me want the digital channel even more. I get the analog KRWG too with an amplified indoor antenna, but it's really snow and sometimes it looses the color for a while.

As for Telemundo, I think we have either a booster or a translator station here in El Paso, that helps us get the analog station so well.

I think this record at the fcc is for an analog booster station in El Paso for Telemundo.

I could also be this one.
tcutty's Avatar tcutty
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Quote:
Originally Posted by cube799 View Post

According to tvguide.com, KRWG DT now has V-me(spanish PBS) on channel 22-3, Can anyone who gets the digital station confirm this. If this is true it makes me want the digital channel even more. I get the analog KRWG too with an amplified indoor antenna, but it's really snow and sometimes it looses the color for a while.

In Las Cruces, the PBS is on 23-1, -2, and -3. The 23-3 is currently showing it is V-me. My wife who watches PBS says that is new. It is coming in at 480i 4:3.
cube799's Avatar cube799
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tcutty View Post

In Las Cruces, the PBS is on 23-1, -2, and -3. The 23-3 is currently showing it is V-me. My wife who watches PBS says that is new. It is coming in at 480i 4:3.

Does this mean it's not remapping to the analog channel number? When I went on vacation to my sisters house in Houston, they had the V-me channel on cable, and it was in Spanish. While there didn't seem to be anything really good on the channel, it was watchable. I know my parents would like it, since they don't know English very well. Oh well lets hope, that KRWG somehow finds away to get their signal to El Paso before DTV day, or KCOS gets V-me soon.
tcutty's Avatar tcutty
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For the little bit I watched Vme, it appears just like an analog station - that is, a regular channel stretched out to be widescreen, not a digital channel /square (if that is making any sense).
Didn;t know this, but based on the station id they just showed, Vme is broadcasted by WNET (PBS) out of NY city.
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Yeah it's a subchannnel, just like the El Paso CW 7-2, or the weather subchannels like weather plus 9-2. It's in 480i and is supposed to be 4:3 aspect Ratio, Maybe you need to change the aspect ratio on your TV. Mine is set to Set by Program which shows 16:9 channels in 16:9 and 4:3 Channels in 4:3.

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