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KDBC, the CBS station just launched their hdtv signal at low power this past Monday night. Their chief engineer says the audio will be 2.0 for now though, not dd 5.1. They don't have the funds yet for a 5.1 upgrade.
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To add:

Fox and two Hispanic channels are also available OTA DTV in El Paso
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More,

KVIA-DT ABC is now broadcasting OTA DTV in El Paso!
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Anyone know when NBC will up with their DT Signal ?

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IMO, El Paso is AWFUL for HDTV. CBS, which is the best, is frequently not boardcasting HDTV for shows that are in HDTV (Raymond, Two and Half Men) are very often sent in digtal, but standard definition. ABC's HDTV boardcasts are more often than not without audio. Fox is not even in HDTV.

The worst is NBC. The west side of El Paso can NOT recieve the NBC DT signal. Myself and others have made many calls to the local NBC station, and the comment is basicly "too bad". I will not watch the local NBC until they resolve this, and I know at least a few others on the west side that will do the same.

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What have you tried to receive the NBC station on the west side of El Paso. I am also on the west side and I got my HD TV and Reciever last week. I have them hooked up to a Silver Sensor. I can get ABC, CBS and FOX, but not NBC or PBS. What anntena are you trying?

Also what have you tried with regards to calling/emailing NBC?

Thanks for any help.
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El Paso is terrible when it comes to high definition. I live on the east side and use the silver sensor as well. I pick up all the channels fine except for NBC, the signal drops out every minute or so but comes right back.

When KVIA first started broadcasting in hd, I used to call and they'd fix it, but I got tired of calling every week and I don't even watch half of what's shown. The good thing though is that they answer the hotline on the weekends unlike KDBC which was extremely frustrating during football season.

KFOX used to be good about everything that was shown in 480p widescreen up until their channel went black and has stayed like that for 3+ weeks now.
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What channel NBC HDTV in El Paso. I live on the west side and can't find it.
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NBC is channel 16.1, but it's not HD. It's just their digital channel.
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So who is receiving NBC (KTSM) is El Paso?

Folks on the east side and west side are not having luck with a Silver Sensor-- so who is, where are you, and what is your set-up?

I am about 2 miles west of KTSM antenna on Ranger Peak, with a clear line of sight, Silver Sensor in attic.

I am considering purchasing a new antenna, but I don't want to re-rig my set-up if it is not going to make an improvement.

Thanks in advance.
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OK, just what IS the HD situation here in ELP?

what I can tell thus far.

- I'm about 12 miles east of the Mountain, on Montana west of Joe Battle. Silver Senson indoors on a DTV Samsung 360

ABC - good signal, looks to be doing 16:9, and windowbox on the 4:3 stuff
CBS - ditto ABC, with some occasional drops
FOX - two channels there, one on 15-2 with a 4:3 SD feed, the one on 14-1 getting a nice strong signal.. for a black screen

NBC - yuk. 4:3 SD with dropouts every 20-30 seconds

PBS - ?????? Is KCOS even alive? (wish I could get Las Cruces, but not a chance it appears).

How much HD Content does ABC/CBS pass? Is FUX doing anything? NBC just showing distain for the viewers... and where or where is PBS????

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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am I all alone here in El Paso????

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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You are not alone Londo...though it seems to be a bit lonely here

I just moved here to El Paso, TX.. a week ago from Los Angeles, CA (HDTV paradise)..and I just started looking for all the HD channels out here. I am located in the Loretto area in central El Paso and I seem to get:

4:1 CBS - looks pretty good on most stuff

9:1 NBC - Has tons of dropouts even though im picking up a good signal..dont know whats wrong with channel 9? Am I alone with this problem with channel 9?

15:1 FOX - Seems to look pretty good...havent seen anything digital on there so far though.
15:2 FOX...i dont get anything on there??

7 ABC - I am not getting any signal anymore, I was picking up a signal a few days ago with my rabbit ears..but the signal seems to be gone??..which is dissapointing..because i was looking forward to seeing the Stanley Cup game yesterday in HDTV..did channel 7:1 go off the air or something?

13 PBS...i cant find any HDTV signal whatsoever.

I can also get a few spanish channels..i think 25:1 and a few others...that look pretty good.

8/31
4-1 KDBC- CBS=87
7-1 KVIA- ABC=87
9-1 KTSM- NBC, 9-2 NBC Weather+ =89
13-1 KCOS- Nat. PBS, 13-2 Local PBS=75
14-1 KFOX- FOX, 14-2 Doppler=87
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A VOICE IN THE WILDERNESS!!!!!!!!!!

agree on CBS.. WHEN they pass the real HD stuff it looks good, but the don't most of the time..

ABC.. was gone for a little while but came back... today... they seem to pass the full monty for HD...

FOX I'm finding them on 14-1 and 15-1 (I think).. 15 has the SD feed, 14 is empty..

NBC... same here... good solid picture for about 30 seconds at a time.. then 'twitch'... all in glorious SD

PBS .... sounds like a Moody Blues song "I know you're out there somewhere..." but I'll be dipped if I can find it!

Yes, several spanish channels 25-1, and 52-1 (I think) very strong... 4:3 but strong...

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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lol Its lonely out here in the wild!

Hey Londo, can you still find ABC 7:1? I cant seem to pick up their signal anymore.

Did they go off the air again?

As for FOX, for some reason I get their SD feed on 15:1 and their HD feed on 15:2 ...but nothing comes out on 15:2.

8/31
4-1 KDBC- CBS=87
7-1 KVIA- ABC=87
9-1 KTSM- NBC, 9-2 NBC Weather+ =89
13-1 KCOS- Nat. PBS, 13-2 Local PBS=75
14-1 KFOX- FOX, 14-2 Doppler=87
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yeah... ABC is still there... I can't explain the KOX discrepency tho.. I get nothing on 14-1 and the SD feed on 15-1

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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Thanks Londo for your help.

I still cant seem to get ABC though..dont know why? ahh ill give it another shot tomorrow.

8/31
4-1 KDBC- CBS=87
7-1 KVIA- ABC=87
9-1 KTSM- NBC, 9-2 NBC Weather+ =89
13-1 KCOS- Nat. PBS, 13-2 Local PBS=75
14-1 KFOX- FOX, 14-2 Doppler=87
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Hey guys, you're not alone! I'm just getting started with this OTA stuff, and it's clear that the small unidirectional UHF antenna that I bought according to antennaweb.org's recommendation is not going to cut it. Where do you get these silver sensor antennae locally?
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Believe it or not.... Sears at Cielo Vista Mall has them...

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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I bought my Silver Sensor at a Circuit City...but that was in California. I dont know if they would have it at the Circuit City's here in El Paso?

8/31
4-1 KDBC- CBS=87
7-1 KVIA- ABC=87
9-1 KTSM- NBC, 9-2 NBC Weather+ =89
13-1 KCOS- Nat. PBS, 13-2 Local PBS=75
14-1 KFOX- FOX, 14-2 Doppler=87
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El Paso folk... are PBS, CBS and ABC MIA for you also? (this is 7/4, 7p)

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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My ABC,CBS, and PBS are now gone also. I have tried a reset but sitll have nothing.

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ABC is back., but that is it.

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same here... I've still got CBS in the guide (but no signal) but PBS is gone completely .....

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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I thought I was having a problem with my equipment not getting CBS.

I live on the west side and cannot get NBC at all. I am using a Samsung 360 and a Silver Sensor. Never had any luck with NBC, but the CBS problem started this week.

What kind of antenna are you using and where are you located?
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Samsung 360 w/Silver Sensor and on the East side (up near the WallyWorld on Joe Battle/Mottwood).

NBC is fine (if you call 4:3 fine)
ABC is (now) fine
FOX is confused (14-1 with a nice 16:9 card that says you are watching FOX Digital, 15-2 with 4:3)
CBS - mia
PBS/ELP - back in 4:3
PBS/LAC - can't get (darn it, they look like they really do HD)

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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I came back from camping a few days ago..and I also noticed that most of the HD channels were gone.

But I think they have all come back..this is what i got today.

4:1 CBS - Is back for me, looking good in 16:9, it was MIA for a while though.

9:1 NBC - Still has some dropouts although some days I dont get any dropouts..and its a lousy 4:3

15:1 (14)FOX - looks pretty good - 4:3
15:2 (14)FOX - I get the same "watching KFOX digital" card - 16:9

7:1 ABC - I got this channel back a few days ago, it looks good again - 16:9
(I can only get this channel on my VOOM HDTV reciever, I cant seem to get it with my RCA DTC-100..dont know exactly why?)

30:1 (13)PBS - looks good though its in 4:3

got a few other digital spanish channels but all of them in 4:3

8/31
4-1 KDBC- CBS=87
7-1 KVIA- ABC=87
9-1 KTSM- NBC, 9-2 NBC Weather+ =89
13-1 KCOS- Nat. PBS, 13-2 Local PBS=75
14-1 KFOX- FOX, 14-2 Doppler=87
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YIKE!

anyone else see that KCOS-DT is now sporting KCOS-DT2, KCOS-DT3 and KCOS-DT4??

of course, they are all dups of the main channel and still SD.

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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YIKE! #2

KFOX is FINALLY BROADCASTING SOMETHING OTHER THAN THE TITLE CARD on the HD channel.

their normal programming ZOOMED/CROPPED! (with double KFOX logos no less). I'll be curious to see what happens when the Network programming comes on in a little while..)

You know, I used to think it was awful that life was so unfair. Then I thought, wouldn't it be much worse if life were fair, and all the terrible things that happen to us come because we actually deserve them? So now I take great comfort in the general hostility and unfairness of the universe.
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PBS HD is now up and running.

Talked to someone at KTSM and said they're pushing to have NBC in HD just in time for the olympics so we shall see...
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