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post #5041 of 5454 Old 09-02-2011, 05:18 AM
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Interesting speculation by Trip in VA on FOX's possible future for SW MO / NW Ark. viewers:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post20896595
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Interesting speculation by Trip in VA on FOX's possible future for SW MO / NW Ark. viewers:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...1#post20896595

Yay! That would fix my KBRK loss-of-Fox-HD problem quite well. When KPBI was live, it was a blowtorch here, far stronger than Springfield KSFX ever was. If I had problems with it, it meant the winds were strong enough I should probably be watching the radar instead of television :-)
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...When KPBI was live, it was a blowtorch here...

It's still on the air. See the Ft Smith thread...
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It's still on the air. See the Ft Smith thread...

Ah, thanks. I remember reading about the PSIP problems awhile back. The Polaroid 40" was tolerant, but when KPBI went away on it, I assumed they went dark. Hard to believe that hasn't been addressed.
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Its September 6th. Anyone in Springfield getting the KRBK signal?
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Its September 6th. Anyone in Springfield getting the KRBK signal?

Not in Camdenton.
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You should be getting ti at the Lake on Charter and so on.
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You should be getting ti at the Lake on Charter and so on.

I'm only talking about the OTA signal.
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Its September 6th. Anyone in Springfield getting the KRBK signal?

No, and I'm not surprised. They haven't posted any new information on their Facebook page, either.

ETA: They updated the info on their website to say that September 8th is the new date for south Springfield.
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I'm forwarding a message here I sent to the WTFDA (Worldwide TV FM DX Association) concerning a news story via Arkansas Business concerning KFSM's possible purchase of KPBI Eureka Springs. The commentary above and below the link is mine alone and is my personal observations.

Viewers in much of the Southern portion of the Springfield MO TV market will get access to another CBS station if the plan by Local TV owners of KFSM (18/5-n) Fort Smith AR goes to plan.

http://www.arkansasbusiness.com/arti...=all&link=perm

Currently, KFSM has good coverage in the Fayetteville and Fort Smith areas but Benton County AR and areas in the nearby Springfield MO TV market (such as Carroll, and Boone counties in AR)would benefit from a sat transmitter.

Of course with the demise of FOX affiliations with Nexstar Broadcasting (which owns KFTA and relays via a KNWA subchannel) this *could* bring KFSM/KPBI into the FOX fold if and when KFTA/Nexstar drops FOX. Currently KFSM carries My Network programming on its "5-2" subchannel in SDTV (CBS is in HD on 5-1).


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If true, that is welcome news for a lot of CBS kolr10 viewers in N Ark./SW MO, that are tired of dropouts every time a cloud passes overhead.
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If true, that is welcome news for a lot of CBS kolr10 viewers in N Ark./SW MO, that are tired of dropouts every time a cloud passes overhead.

Is it still considered a dropout if it lasts several months? :-) KOLR10 has been gone here since the switch back to VHF, and it's not from a lack of effort on our part. Although my personal preference would be to see Fox on KPBI, CBS would be a win too. Amazing how SW Missouri has managed to lose OTA coverage of two major networks.
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If nexstar loses FOX on KFTA, KPBI will likely be the eventual new home for it, if KFSM's owner snags it.
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Folks in and around Springfield, look for FOX on KRFT-21, mapping to 49-1.

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So you that channel doesn't have a Website yet.
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Folks in and around Springfield, look for FOX on KRFT-21, mapping to 49-1.

I can confirm reception in central Springfield with a simple whip antenna. I'm not a fan of those sidepanels.
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Folks in and around Springfield, look for FOX on KRFT-21, mapping to 49-1.

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I'm about 10 miles north of Springfield and I'm getting it. It's about 1 bar weaker than all my other channels but not bad. In Windows Media Center it won't populate the guide for the channel though, which is not good. Will the signal get stronger for me in the coming months?
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Right now they're operating via KRFT-LD 21. When they get the KRBK DTS built on channel 49, the power will go from 3 kW to 170 kW with an increase in height as well.

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I'm not a fan of those sidepanels.

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Those are ridiculous. Maybe they will change them if enough of us email them to complain about it....
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I'm about 10 miles north of Springfield and I'm getting it. It's about 1 bar weaker than all my other channels but not bad. In Windows Media Center it won't populate the guide for the channel though, which is not good. Will the signal get stronger for me in the coming months?

There's no guide data for KRBK yet.
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I am recieving KRBK OTA in SW Springfield near Sunshine today.
Signal 56% & 100% quality Compare to KLOR at 67% and 80% quality
All others 98% signal. 100% quality.
Picture is very grainy but it is on Direct TV also.
Like watching low def on your big screen go to KRBK.
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Very surprised, but I'm getting KRBK from 21 mapped to 49 through my dish 722 receiver at 60%. Now it dropped to 58% and blocking. Might be able to tweak my antenna and get it better. I'm about 35 miles SW of Springfield driving distants. And not on top of a hill. My 4228 is split about 7 ways, so if I hooked direct it would improve alot.
Now I have lost it while typing this.
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Um, is anyone else missing KRBK SD on their Dish guide? It has disappeared here from both the 211 and 622.

Edit: KRBK is now mapped to channel 5 on both Dish receivers after rebooting them. It's still SD though.
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I am getting KRBKHD OTA in Ozark near 65 & 14. I have an indoor antenna and am getting between 60-70% signal strength. I had to adjust the length of the rabit ears, which decreased my KOLR signal and now it is blocking, but atleast I will have NFL in HD this weekend.
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I'm getting KRBK in 720P 5.1 at the south edge of Springfield. Signal strength is listed at about 52% on my Panasonic, and my Visio lists strength as a signal-to-noise ratio of 23 dB. Both these numbers are slightly higher than KOLR.

I've got a 40 year old VHF/UHF antenna in my attic. Wingspan is probably 8 feet, aimed at Fordland. My house is in a slight valley.
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After tweaking my antenna tonight, I'm getting as much as 66% signal strength. Looks like the guide info on my dish receiver is feeding something in spanish.KRBK info off sat is ok. Hope dish adds KRBKHD soon, but atleast now I can get it off my antenna if they don't mess with it.I'm about 6 miles South of Crane.
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I'm glad I have alternatives to KRBK. Really. I can't believe for the life of me how a guy who ran a decent station in St Louis has dropped this one so bad.
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On Charter cable, KRBK looks like it is SD. Fox NFL was in 4:3 with black bars on the sides, but looked like Fox was sending 16:9. I don't know what it looks like on D* or OTA. It was almost like someone pasted on black bars over top of a 16:9 feed. The ticker along the bottom was cut off. It is all just really lame.
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It looked the same way on Dish. You could only see part of the score bug, (*) and the video quality was low bit rate streaming quality. Actually, that's being unfair to streaming. My dilemma, and now all of the southern Springfield OTA and Dish DMA, is that our only alternative for Fox is KFTA out of Fayetteville, which is also 4:3 SD, and only looks marginally better that KRBK on Dish.

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On Charter cable, KRBK looks like it is SD. Fox NFL was in 4:3 with black bars on the sides, but looked like Fox was sending 16:9. I don't know what it looks like on D* or OTA. It was almost like someone pasted on black bars over top of a 16:9 feed. The ticker along the bottom was cut off. It is all just really lame.

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...My dilemma, and now all of the southern Springfield OTA and Dish DMA, is that our only alternative for Fox is KFTA out of Fayetteville, which is also 4:3

Actually, you're referring to KFTA's SD translator on RF channel 50 (remaps to 51-2). The "real" KFTA RF ch 27 (mapst to 24-1) is 16:9,720p HD. But the transmitter is much too far to the South for you to receive.

Hopefully KFSM's (Local TV LLC.) purchase of KPBI will go through and:
They increase KPBI's power to 1,000kW ERP.
KFTA loses their FOX affiliation.
KFSM picks up the FOX affiliation.
KFSM puts FOX HD on KPBI 34-1.

A lot of "ifs" but it might actually happen.
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