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post #5101 of 5579 Old 10-11-2011, 04:43 PM
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Chuck44: Yes.

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Chuck44: Yes.

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When they go full power they'll be on RF 49, right?

Correct. RF49.

One other reason they'll use the satellite permanently...feeding cable ops outside of their core coverage area.
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565 feet of transmission line has been delivered and the transmitter shack now has a door and a heat pump.
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565 feet of transmission line has been delivered and the transmitter shack now has a door and a heat pump.

Thanks for the update.
So, are they going to use the pre-existing KOLR10 tower there, or build a new one?
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It's the KOLR studio tower.

An earlier owner of KOLR/KDEB sold all four towers to American Tower. (one at each studio and one at each transmitter)

The KDEB transmitter tower fell down.


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Thanks for the update.
So, are they going to use the pre-existing KOLR10 tower there, or build a new one?

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The tower crew from Precision Communications is working on the tower at 2650 E Division St.

There is still no sign of the actual transmitter or antenna, but the transmitter shack is 90% complete and transmission line and hangers are on site.

It's quite a job installing over 500 feet of transmission line, but this is a good crew and they have perfect weather.

Hoisting the antenna and installing the transmitter and sat receiving equipment could happen pretty fast.
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The tower crew from Precision Communications is working on the tower at 2650 E Division St.

There is still no sign of the actual transmitter or antenna, but the transmitter shack is 90% complete and transmission line and hangers are on site.

It's quite a job installing over 500 feet of transmission line, but this is a good crew and they have perfect weather.

Hoisting the antenna and installing the transmitter and sat receiving equipment could happen pretty fast.

Their latest update is here. They say they're going to try & raise the transmission cable today, then the antenna.
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Here is the very latest update.
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Signal maybe 7 times stronger, but I can't get a sniff of it. Still getting 74% tonight off RF21. Hope they don't shut it down to quick.
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The KRBK engineering team says that some people may need two antennas and combine them. Having tried this in the past, I feel this is bad advice due to multipath issues combining the two. They also recommend using an antenna rotor or re-pointing your antenna. This is all good information for people who are interested in the technical details of TV or are hobbyists, but to the average old lady in Wherever, MO it is all a pain in the butt and probably impossible to do without help. Once upon a time it was simple to get an antenna and point it at Fordland. Now people have to jump through hoops to simply get OTA TV. Most OTA viewers have now missed Nascar, baseball playoffs and world series, NFL football, and many popular series premieres. This whole thing is a total, poorly planned mess and joke.
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Still no signal in Ozark. Went to the local Radio Shack and their solution was to sell me another antenna. Told them I already had an outdoor antenna and they just shrugged. They did say they had never seen so many pissed off people... Lots of Cards fans around here.
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A friend of mine in Fair Grove gets nothing on rf 49, even with a good antenna.
A 540 foot antenna, just can't provide line of sight coverage like the 2000 ft towers do.


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Still no signal in Ozark. Went to the local Radio Shack and their solution was to sell me another antenna. Told them I already had an outdoor antenna and they just shrugged. They did say they had never seen so many pissed off people... Lots of Cards fans around here.

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...A 540 foot antenna, just can't provide line of sight coverage like the 2000 ft towers do.

True. And those 2000' towers also allow many viewers to receive perfect reception 70+ miles away, with only an indoor rabbit ear/loop antenna. At least for UHF channels.
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I rescanned this evening and no improvement in KRBK. Apparently only one of my TVs can tell me what actual channel it picks up, and it says 49-1 is still on 21, with a blocky picture this evening.

There is no 49-1 on ch49. Should there be, or do my TVs ignore the weaker one, or what?
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Some TVs pick the first channel they come across when they find two identical signals. 21 being lower than 49, that could be your issue.

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Stupid virtual channels.
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Stupid virtual channels.

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Stupid virtual channels.

More like "stupid equipment manufacturers who don't follow standards."

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More like both.
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http://www.rabbitears.info/blog/inde...hannel-Numbers

I wrote that to avoid having to have that argument again.

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A friend of mine in Fair Grove gets nothing on rf 49, even with a good antenna.
A 540 foot antenna, just can't provide line of sight coverage like the 2000 ft towers do.

Well, it looks to me like their coverage map http://media.foxkrbk.com/images/CoverageMapFinal3.jpg
is (1) an outrageous lie or (2) extremely wishful thinking.
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Well, it looks to me like their coverage map http://media.foxkrbk.com/images/CoverageMapFinal3.jpg
is (1) an outrageous lie or (2) extremely wishful thinking.

Their system is one of the few new SFN systems.
For full coverage all 5 towers need to be operational.
So far only 3 are up & running.
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Actually, only two are up and running, and neither of those are at full power yet.

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Actually, only two are up and running, and neither of those are at full power yet.

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I stand corrected.
Thanks Trip.
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Actually, only two are up and running, and neither of those are at full power yet.

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I thought the new one at KOLR was at full power.
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I thought the new one at KOLR was at full power.

Exactly. They said in their blog it was 7x the power of the temp transmitter. If that isn't full power they should say so.
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Murphy's Law hit, thus the various outages that have been observed. I'm not really sure how much I'm allowed to say.

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World Series is now unwatchable due to drop outs.

Wonderful.
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I have a large outdoor UHF-VHF antenna which receives all of the Fordland stations including channel 10. For appearance I would like to cut it down to receive UHF and channel 10 only. Anyone have a suggestion on how to do it right?
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I am located in West Plains.
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