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post #871 of 17221 Old 11-29-2003, 11:28 AM
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Note to festivalman:

I am also located in New Hyde Park and WNBC-DT comes in fairly strong. I would highly recommend that you have a rotor mounted on your antenna.
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post #872 of 17221 Old 11-29-2003, 01:16 PM
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I've got one of these little radio shack antennas that's propped up next to the upstairs window where my home theater is. It took about 20 minutes to finally get it positioned correctly so that the other 3 major channels come in very strongly, so I dread moving it again to try and get NBC. Alas, I'm sure I'll mess with it anyway just to see what I'm missing. Renting an apartment and not being able to put up a big outdoor antenna is annoying at times.
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Going off of WNBC for a second...

Anyone else having problems with WLIW (21.1)? I have great signal strength, but no picture on either of the subchannels. Has been this way since last night.

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Originally posted by seldenpat
Anyone else having problems with WLIW (21.1)? I have great signal strength, but no picture on either of the subchannels.

WLIW is good on both my Hipix and Dish 6000. What receiver do you have and have you tried a channel rescan?
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Originally posted by Ed Barclay
WLIW is good on both my Hipix and Dish 6000. What receiver do you have and have you tried a channel rescan?

Thanks, Ed.

I have a Sony HD200 and the integrated tuner on my Sony KDP-65XBR2. Same thing with both. Locked signal, no Audio or Video. I'll try a re-scan.

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I have WLIW again. Just came back on. Same signal strength as before, I just have Audio and Video now.

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post #877 of 17221 Old 11-30-2003, 12:21 PM
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I dont get WLIW, I wish I could I like PBS. For now CV gets my doe. I have heard we wont get PBS (in the metro area) till they actually b'cast in NYC. The WB which I do get has a Christina Aguilera Stripped in London tonight, I think its a re-peat not sure but does anyone have info. that it *could* be in HD? thank you

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Originally posted by feloniousmonkey
I dont get WLIW, I wish I could I like PBS. For now CV gets my doe. I have heard we wont get PBS (in the metro area) till they actually b'cast in NYC.

Maybe Cablevision is different in your area but I get PBS HD on Long Island Cablevision. Channel 713 is WNET-DT with the same HD programming that is on WLIW-DT OTA.
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Thanks Ed, but it was the FREE OTA I was speaking of. I am sorry I wasn't more specific. I give CV my money b'cause I want PBS, of course MSG*FS-HD for me. If I could get PBS FREE OTA 1 more reason to loose CV if the pickins get slim.

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Well, after being told I should have very good reception, I return from New Jersey. Time for a reception report from Fair Lawn on my Zenith HDV420 w/ a Zenith Silver Sensor and a CM7777. Remember that Normal (abbreviated NRML) is required for a picture/sound, and that is between 33%-66% signal. Good is above that and bad is below it.
56 CBS WCBS-DT GOOD (few breakups)
28 NBC WNBC-DT NRML (but only for a few minutes)
44 FOX WNYW-DT GOOD (few breakups)
45 ABC WABC-DT GOOD (few breakups)
12 TWB WPIX-DT BAD- (Got it up to about 10%, but jumped to 30% every so often... probably multipath)
61 PBS WNET-DT NONE
30 PAX WPXN-DT NONE
40 UNI WXTV-DT NRML (but only for a few seconds)
51 PBS WNJN-DT BAD- (It would go up to about 10% and then jump to GOOD for a second... methinks it was multipath)
27 TBN WTBY-DT NONE
48 INF WRNN-DT BAD- (Got to about 15%)
29 REL WFME-DT BAD- (Barely got above zero)
53 TFT WFUT-DT BAD- (Got to about 30%)

At my cousins house they actually HAVE an HDTV, and the only channel I could get at all was WCBS-DT and it was breaking up horribly. Plus their Sony HDTV wouldn't allow a manual focus so it was way the heck off.

I also used my digital tuner on the road and took screenshots, but that's not for here, although I almost locked WNJT-DT on I-78.

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I find that odd since I am in hawethorne, but get fairly good signals on some of those channels that you got bad signals from, but at the same token I can't pick up wpix at all.

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I havent touched my antenna in 2 years. I receive CBS,NBC, ABC, FOX, UPN (analog) WB DT

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I can't imagine having a roof top and having to go up there every few days....:-)

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To the guy who mentioned that he's getting good NBC reception in New Hyde Park, I seem to be out of luck. I went all out in terms of putting my antenna in all different positions, including holding it out the window with my arm. Even though I was getting 90% on cbs/abc/fox, and now even 50-60 on wliw which i wasn't getting at all up until then, nbc never once went above 5%. An almost totally dead signal. I tried it on 28.1, 2 and 3 subchannels.. never above 5%. Not sure what the deal is.
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Does anyone know the power with which the local stations are broadcasting? If so, could you post it.

I have the most trouble with WCBS but I thought it had the most power. If it does, can I conclude that the problem is with interference from bouncing signals? Sometimes I can actually improve the reception by cutting power to the antenna amplifier.
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Are any PBS-DT in the NY area broadcasting 24/7?

I'd like to try to get some of the PBS stations in my area (Morris Cty, NJ). Before I start playing with the rotor I want to be sure they are broadcasting at the time. Stations in my area include:

WNETD PBS 13-1-2 (may not be live)
WLIWD PSB 21-1-2
WNYED PBS 25-1-2-3 (may not be live)
WEDWD ? 49-1-2-3-4
WNJND PBS 51-1-2-3-4-5
WLNYD ? 55-1
WFTYD ? 67-1

Does anyone have any information on these as well as any others besides 2-4-5-7-9-11?

Thanks,

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WCBS-DT is at full power considering that you are located in the NYC area you may need to turn down the gain on the pre-amp to pick it up.
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WLIW-DT PBS 21-1-2 Operates 24 /7
WNET-DT PBS 13-1-2 Operates 24/7 at very low power 125 watts
WNJN-DT PBS 51-1-2-3-4-5 Operates 24/7 at full power

Also check out WNJU-DT 43-1,2,3,4
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Is anyone on the west side of midtown manhattan receiving ANY pbs station and /or wb? If so, tell me how your doing it....please .

i currently have ABC, CBS, FOX, NBC and UPN. would love to complete the package with a pbs.

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SJF aside from the PBS stations, what else do you get and with what equipment. I'm in Randolph and I can only get 2.1, 5.1, 5.2 and 7.1. WHat about you??

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Does anyone in Manhattan use indoor antennas? I live on East 30th off 1st ave, and have an unobstructed path (north exposure) to the ESB. Would I be able to get any channels without using a roof antennae?
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Can anyone recommend a good preamp? Like alot of members, NBC-DT is the weakest signal although I have been receiving it with minimal breakups. ABC-DT is a little stronger 4-5 bars on my SAmsung 161 and CS with 9-10 is strongest. I'm in Roslyn Heights off exit 28 of the NSP.
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Originally posted by Paperboy2003
SJF aside from the PBS stations, what else do you get and with what equipment. I'm in Randolph and I can only get 2.1, 5.1, 5.2 and 7.1. WHat about you??

Thanks

Doug

Doug,

I get:
2-1
4-1
5-1
5-2 (9)
7-1
11-1
53-1
29-1

I have to work on WLIW-DT

I have the following equipment:
CM 4228 - Attic mounted (for UHF)
RS VU-90 XR Antenna (for VHF & FM)
CM 7777 Pre amp (powered by one of my DTV receivers)
CM 9521A Rotor
Hughes HTL-HD receiver (recently replaced the RCA DTC-100)

HTH

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Can anyone recommend a good preamp?

Channel Master 7775 for UHF only. The model 7777 adds VHF capability if needed.
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Originally posted by sjf99
Doug,

I get:
2-1
4-1
5-1
5-2 (9)
7-1
11-1
53-1
29-1

I have to work on WLIW-DT

I have the following equipment:
CM 4228 - Attic mounted (for UHF)
RS VU-90 XR Antenna (for VHF & FM)
CM 7777 Pre amp (powered by one of my DTV receivers)
CM 9521A Rotor
Hughes HTL-HD receiver (recently replaced the RCA DTC-100)

HTH

Steve

Steve -
I assume that in order to get 53 and 29, you need to turn your rotor toward Philly? How can you pick up 11-1 from where you are?
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Try it, you cant loose. Radio Shack will give you your money back good luck, Let us know.

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Originally posted by Mattdoc
Does anyone in Manhattan use indoor antennas? I live on East 30th off 1st ave, and have an unobstructed path (north exposure) to the ESB. Would I be able to get any channels without using a roof antennae?

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Originally posted by sjf99
Doug,

I get:
2-1
4-1
5-1
5-2 (9)
7-1
11-1
53-1
29-1

I have to work on WLIW-DT

I have the following equipment:
CM 4228 - Attic mounted (for UHF)
RS VU-90 XR Antenna (for VHF & FM)
CM 7777 Pre amp (powered by one of my DTV receivers)
CM 9521A Rotor
Hughes HTL-HD receiver (recently replaced the RCA DTC-100)

HTH

Steve

Are you getting 4 and 11 without drop outs? It's hard to believe, but a testament to the CM4228 that you get all those stations with an attic mounted antennae. I have a (crappy) turk, but it's on top of two masts on top of my house! All told, it's got to be around 900 feet asl!
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I am pretty much screwed where I am. I only get the WPIX channels, that's it. Analog channels come in really really poorly. I refuse to pay $50 for cable that I hardly ever watch.

I have the following:
Samsung SIR-T165
CM Stealthtenna & amp upgrade.

...but unfortunately I face north in on the 10th floor of an apt high-rise. My CM is out on the patio and facing west but I can't face it SW (towards ESB) as the building is in the way.

Maybe it is my setup, I dunno, but I get one piss-poor channel.

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Try different orientations and try to pick up multipath off another building, or try a simple indoor antenna pointed in the proper direction.
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I have tried just about every orientation that I could think of that made sense. It doesn't really help.

However, made if I tried a UHF only antenna that would work better, or an indoor pointed in the right direction. I think I will purchase a couple of rat shack ant's and give them a try and take back what doesn't work.

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Is anyone else having this problem? As of 11:25 PM, I am not receiving any signal from wnbc-dt (4-1).
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