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post #151 of 17235 Old 09-09-2003, 05:18 PM
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OK....this is a little wacky but please tell me if this will work. I currently have a terk on my roof. What if I were to get a cm indoor model and hook that up as well. Put both lines from the antennae into an a/b switch and then add a preamp after the a/b into my hd200. I could point one towards NYC and the other (higher gain model) towards philly or somewhere else. Would this work??? Am I brilliant or just overly ambitious and unaware of what the technology will do?!

Any help would be great....thanks!

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FYI, I live in Colts Neck, NJ which is central Monmouth County. I've recently installed a CM4228, w/ a CM7775 pre-amp, CM7720 Broadband Amp, and a 9521A Rotor. I'm able to pull in NY CBS (56) and Fox (44) consistently. It's disappointing that NY ABC and NBC are down. I'm also able to consistently pull in Philly CBS (26) and ABC(64).
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George, when the combiner is completed, do you know if it's just for ABC/NBC? Will WB11 go back to high(er) power on ch 33? I'm on the fringe and would be hopeful of pulling in WPIX also. Cablevision has done a nice job of giving me HD channels that are already broadcasting that I've been getting OTA for months, and I'm not hopeful of getting ABC NBC or WB via them. Thanks for the info.
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The combiner/antenna is for all the stations in the consortium. I don't think that any station will be at full legal power since as I mentioned before the combiner/antenna will not be able to handle it. But they should be able to cover 80/90 percent of their coverage area. Full power will be achieved with the WTC replacement.
ESB stations should be up and running before the end of the year.
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Thanks George. I'm not sure that bodes well for my area though, since CBS already disappears in light rain and Philadelphia stations are really marginal.

In a way I'm missing the showy fuzzy pictures of NTSC - even if the picture wasn't great at least you could often watch it in marginal conditions without getting pixelization, freeze, or "no signal."

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I'm almost 10 miles west of you and have no trouble with CBS. What type of antenna do you use? If it's really bad weather, I have problems, but so does everyone. Repositioning my antenna and connecting a pre-amp helps. You're well within the radius to be able to receive CBS and the other stations when they come online. I'm using a radio shack indoor antenna, btw.
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Trekkerj - I have the same setup as rross111, but my antenna is on the roof and has a rotor. I think part of the problem is that I am being blocked by the house next door and across the street. Perhaps raising the antenna 5 or 10 feet would help.

Still, CBS always breaks up before FOX. I don't know if that has to do more with the antenna broadcast pattern or with the fact that WCBS is at a higher frequency, which - I think - is more susceptible to interference by moisture in the air.

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Anyone else have trouble with WPIX on Thursday evening? Usually comes in clear as a bell, but it was either "no signal" or very broken up all evening. All other NYC signals were fine.

Also, does anyone know if any of the OTA stations broadcast test signals at any time?
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I think George said that they're not to that point yet. (George - please correct me if I'm wrong.)

I think we'll read it here first when the local NYC DT stations start testing. If we're lucky, they'll monitor us to get feedback on how well it's working.

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Was WCBS-DT (Channel 56) not transmitting on Thursday? I just repositioned my Winegard GS200A and suddenly I'm getting no signal on WCBS-DT (56). I live in northern Westchester, about 42 miles from Empire State Building transmitter. This is strange because WNYW-DT (44) and its linked UPN counterpart are coming in fairly strong. Is the WCBS transmitter down, or something? When I lived about 10 miles south of here, I always got WCBS strongest.
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suddenly I'm getting no signal on WCBS-DT (56)

I'm about 38 miles east of ESB and have no picture even though it hits 90 on my meter. I've switched over to CBS-HD off Dish 61.5.
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Originally posted by MLM

Also, does anyone know if any of the OTA stations broadcast test signals at any time? [/b]

Perhaps I wasn't sufficiently clear. I was asking if any of the current OTA stations transmit a test pattern that we can use for adjusting our TVs
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Originally posted by s2silber
Was WCBS-DT (Channel 56) not transmitting on Thursday? I just repositioned my Winegard GS200A and suddenly I'm getting no signal on WCBS-DT (56). I live in northern Westchester, about 42 miles from Empire State Building transmitter. This is strange because WNYW-DT (44) and its linked UPN counterpart are coming in fairly strong. Is the WCBS transmitter down, or something? When I lived about 10 miles south of here, I always got WCBS strongest.

On Thursday I got WCBS very clearly as usual and, for the first time, WPIX was broken up. Signal strength was down on both though. The other stations came in as usual, but I didn't look at the meter. I'm in Bayside.
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WCBS came in fine for me Thursday night. I wonder if they're having PSIP problems again... Did you re-scan for Channel 56?
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WCBS came in fine for me Thursday night. I wonder if they're having PSIP problems again... Did you re-scan for Channel 56?

Yes, but I'm getting too weak of a signal to lock. Again, it's strange because I'm getting the Fox and UPN stations with adequate signal strength to lock. Before, WCBS was significantly stronger than both.
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I was getting WCBS-DT56 perfectly until about 9pm when it started breaking up and dropping out pretty frequently for no apparent reason.

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My problem started as soon as I finished setting up the antenna, which was about 7:00 p.m.
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I live in Weschester too, Ossining to be exact which puts me aprox 55miles from the ESB. (as the crow flies) My signal strength on CBS has dropped dramatically from 75 to 35. Still getting decent signal strength on FOX and UPN (aprox 60). Is CBS doing any maintenance to their transmitter, have they reduced their kwatts for some reason?

Anyone in the know on this subject?
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Guys, please keep in mind that there is some maintainence going on at the Empire State Building, I think until November-December of this year. They are in the process of getting ABC hd and NBC hd ready to broadcast later this year from the Empire State Building. So they will be daily interruptions on a nightly basis until that work is complete. I think the work was suppose to begin around midnight on a daily basis.
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I'm experiencing this during prime time.
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I live in Weschester too, Ossining to be exact which puts me aprox 55miles from the ESB. (as the crow flies) My signal strength on CBS has dropped dramatically from 75 to 35. Still getting decent signal strength on FOX and UPN (aprox 60). Is CBS doing any maintenance to their transmitter, have they reduced their kwatts for some reason?

Anyone in the know on this subject?

I just moved from Ossining, which is really only about 32 miles from the ESB as the crow flies, and where I always got over 90 signal strength on WCBS-DT Ch. 56. Now, about 10 miles further north using the same antenna, the FOX and UPN stations are at around 60 (sufficient to lock), but no more than a blip of yellow on WCBS.

I spoke to someone in Master Control at WCBS and he told me that they're at full strength and only go down between 12:38 a.m. and 4:30 a.m. every night.

Something strange is happening here.
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Bummer, what could be happening?
Isn't fox and upn transmitting from the ESB too? They don't seem to be experiencing any problems.

I wonder what other factors could be contributing to this reduction in CBS' signal strength? It certainly can't be the weather since that would effect all 3 channels.
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what time?
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I only really check during Prime time, since thats really the only time any HD programming is on.
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I only really check during Prime time, since thats really the only time any HD programming is on.

It's not just HDTV programming that can't be received. It's anything coming off Channel 56 any time of day.
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Absolutely!
I was just trying to explain when I check signal strengths.
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I blame it all on the Aliens

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Well that explains it.
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Well, I can verify that some extensive work on the ESB's tower is has been underway for at least the past month or so - when the weather is good I can see welding going on up there! I'd been wondering why they had been leaving their lights on past midnight until I saw the flashes up the mast.
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Thanks for the info.
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