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post #18361 of 18422 Old 02-09-2016, 08:53 PM
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So are any stations are on 1WTC? I am asking because some OTA channels are stronger then they were months ago.

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How would anyone really know unless they work for the TV networks.
You are kidding right?
There are NO immediate plans to broadcast from 1WTC. So don’t hold your breath or plan on it any time soon!
Trip is our resident forum expert on broadcasting in the NYC area.
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The only broadcasts that have ever come off the new 1WTC were experimental overnight broadcasts on channels 12 and 32. Those ended quite a while ago.

Nobody is building anything while the Incentive Auction looms (unless there's a catastrophic failure). No sensible station is going to build a brand new facility just to potentially have to rip it all out and replace it next year, especially since any change of channel ordered by the government will be paid for by the government at that time.

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So we are probably talking about 2018 at the earliest for any plans to broadcast from 1WTC.
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preamp versus distro amp

Will they both behave the same way regarding amplifying noise and signal? I use both. I use a preamp with one DVR+ and I use a distro amp with the other DVR+. Two different antennas are in play. I seem to have more noise with the preamp than the distro amp when I look at what the DVR+ is saying.

This isn’t scientific I know. Any opinions on this?
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How would anyone really know unless they work for the TV networks.
I think you would know youre reception on your local channels would dramatically change some would come in better othets worst and it would be permanent.
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preamp versus distro amp

Will they both behave the same way regarding amplifying noise and signal? I use both. I use a preamp with one DVR+ and I use a distro amp with the other DVR+. Two different antennas are in play. I seem to have more noise with the preamp than the distro amp when I look at what the DVR+ is saying.

This isn’t scientific I know. Any opinions on this?
from my experience a mast mounted preamp works better than distro amp if connected to an antenna it has to be cause the signal is being amplified at the source rather than after the cable run.
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Let me ask this another way.

If you have good signal and low noise coming into the house and you need to now get the signal to more than one TV will you get more noise by a preamp at the antenna and using a passive splitter in the house or will you get less noise by not using a preamp at the antenna and using a distro amp in the house instead of a passive splitter?
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I would use a dist amp if signal is good coming to house. using a preamp would likely cause overload if you're in urban environment. If youre more than 30 miles then preamp would be the way to go. I presently using antennas direct juice which is the best preamp out in the market . http://i5.walmartimages.com/dfw/dce0...60c8427.v1.jpg
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No dates

Did you happen to notice that there was a glaring omission? Dates. This all is meaningless when dates are not committed too or even estimated.
I’ll stick with my original thought…..not before 2018.
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Did you happen to notice that there was a glaring omission? Dates. This all is meaningless when dates are not committed too or even estimated.
I’ll stick with my original thought…..not before 2018.
2018? are you kidding not likeky till 2020 the way the networks took their time with the analog cutoff and fcc selling off uhf bandwidth. leave things alone if not broken why fix it, my reception is great from esb.
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Maybe I am an optimist with my 2018 date. We shall see.

I think there is maybe too much optimism that reception will be better with TV broadcasting from 1WTC too.

It will not be very good for some of us if there is broadcasting from both 1WTC and some from the ESB. Might have to re-aim antennas to find the sweet spot which may not necessarily be the best for reception from either location.

In that case it is a lose -lose situation!
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Anyone, especially those north and west of Manhattan, seeing RF channel 20 on the air? W19EH-D filed to cover their permit to move to channel 20 on Trump Tower.

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Anyone, especially those north and west of Manhattan, seeing RF channel 20 on the air? W19EH-D filed to cover their permit to move to channel 20 on Trump Tower.

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No....not yet. I will keep looking.
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Anyone, especially those north and west of Manhattan, seeing RF channel 20 on the air? W19EH-D filed to cover their permit to move to channel 20 on Trump Tower.

http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...=2002585&map=Y

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I'm 17 miles north west in NJ in the red according to your map and this is what i get, signal strength jumps from 0 to no higher than 36% and quality jumps from 0 to 61%.


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Anyone, especially those north and west of Manhattan, seeing RF channel 20 on the air? W19EH-D filed to cover their permit to move to channel 20 on Trump Tower.

http://www.rabbitears.info/contour.p...=2002585&map=Y

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I'm mobile at the moment and happen to be near Trump and getting W20EF-D. PSIP 27-1 Infomercials, 27-2 Jewelry TV.
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I want to know if most viewrs are able to receive 32-4,5 revn retro tv respectively. for some odd reason i get a weak signal alot of times they show some old stuff ei.. route 66, naked city. I dig old shows their well written good dramas. right now I watch combat religiously on h&i.

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I want to know if most viewrs are able to receive 32-4,5 revn retro tv respectively. for some odd reason i get a weak signal alot of times they show some old stuff ei.. route 66, naked city. I dig old shows their well written good dramas. right now I watch combat religiously on h&i.
No, terrible in my part of Manhattan. Neither come in at all on my old living room tv, and I get very choppy (unwatchable) reception on another, newer tv in the bedroom.
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No, terrible in my part of Manhattan. Neither come in at all on my old living room tv, and I get very choppy (unwatchable) reception on another, newer tv in the bedroom.
believe that wnyx ch32 is low powered, other subs are multi-language. Wonder if this channel is candidate for bandwidth crunch.
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Let me ask this another way.

If you have good signal and low noise coming into the house and you need to now get the signal to more than one TV will you get more noise by a preamp at the antenna and using a passive splitter in the house or will you get less noise by not using a preamp at the antenna and using a distro amp in the house instead of a passive splitter?
Len, I use a drop amp (distribution amp) and found that when I installed my antenna (a Winegard HD7695P Yagi) I did not need a preamp at the antenna. The drop amp has 8 ports and amplifies the signal by 16 times so that each port sees a 2 times signal increase (16/8). I found this to be good signal strength and I only in the most sever weather do I get noise or drop outs on some of the channels.

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I could use some expert advice as I've tried quite a bit on my own to get the NYC VHF-Hi stations.

I live 40 miles north of NYC and have an Antennas Direct DB8e mounted in my attic going to one TV. I get a lot of UHF channels - they all come in perfectly, some from Poughkeepsie, too.

I am missing the VHF-Hi channels - WABC, WPIX and WNET.

My one constraint is that my wife won't let me mount an antenna outside, so any solution has to stay in the attic.

I've tried the following - 1) ClearStream5 diplexed to the DB8e, and 2) VHF Retro Kit with a JUICE pre-amp. No luck with either. Not even "slightly better" static.

Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

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I could use some expert advice as I've tried quite a bit on my own to get the NYC VHF-Hi stations.

I live 40 miles north of NYC and have an Antennas Direct DB8e mounted in my attic going to one TV. I get a lot of UHF channels - they all come in perfectly, some from Poughkeepsie, too.

I am missing the VHF-Hi channels - WABC, WPIX and WNET.

My one constraint is that my wife won't let me mount an antenna outside, so any solution has to stay in the attic.

I've tried the following - 1) ClearStream5 diplexed to the DB8e, and 2) VHF Retro Kit with a JUICE pre-amp. No luck with either. Not even "slightly better" static.

Any help or suggestions would be very much appreciated.

Thanks in advance.

cnsf, Please see my post just above yours as to what I have for an antenna. I am 30 miles due north of the ESB and (this could be very important) I am on the south face of a hill (elevation can be important). I hate to be so blunt, but what is your wife's hang up on doing an outdoor antenna? At 40 miles north you are probably going to need an outdoor installation. I did mine myself (I am a retired scientist/engineer and I do have a flat roof so it was not that big of a deal). What is your actual location like (how high, what blocks you, etc)?

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I hate to be so blunt, but what is your wife's hang up on doing an outdoor antenna? At 40 miles north you are probably going to need an outdoor installation.
She doesn't like the look of a big antenna on our house. I don't blame her. We already have Fios, so the OTA isn't a necessity. I'm not going to win this battle, unfortunately.

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I did mine myself (I am a retired scientist/engineer and I do have a flat roof so it was not that big of a deal). What is your actual location like (how high, what blocks you, etc)?
Our roof is actually 3 1/2 stories high, so not easy to access outside and I'm scared sh-tless of heights. We have a lot of trees around and are in a mountainous area. We're about 390 ft. above sea level. I have a pretty good view of the south/southwest sky without trees blocking too much at the top of the roof - our trees are very tall and we border a protected forest area.

I've seen the VHF-Hi broadcast antennas are around 3.2kW, not very strong.
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FWIW. I am at 410 above sea level and the antenna is about 40 feet above the ground so it is at 450 feet above sea level. you would be close to that with an outdoor antenna.

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