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post #18721 of 18750 Old 09-27-2017, 05:39 PM
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Thank you, I will use only a winegard LNA-200. I misunderstood the purpose of the distribution amp. I live at the bottom of a sheer 50' rock cliff so my 70' antenna is only 20' over the top of the cliff despite being on top of a 5 story Bldg. I'm in the South Bronx.
I realize I am probably misunderstanding what you are posting, but are you telling us you have a 70' mast for you antenna?

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I'll swap my WPIX (ch 11) and my WNYW (ch 5) for a WLIW from anyone on Long Island. I'll throw in
WWORD(ch 9) as a freebie.

I'm just checking in after a while away. Will reception from the WTC be better than from ESB?
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Will reception from the WTC be better than from ESB?

For some people, yes. For some people, no.

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I realize I am probably misunderstanding what you are posting, but are you telling us you have a 70' mast for you antenna?
No. I live in 5 story walk-up. Bldg is 65' tall and my antenna is about 10' off the roof. It also holds my ham radio antenna 5BTV with two 67' dipole/radials.
I find conflicting input voltage reported for the Winegard LNA-200. If the later models are power from a USB powered injector it's only 4vdc but the older ones are 15-18vdc. Any way to distinguish between them ?
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I find conflicting input voltage reported for the Winegard LNA-200. If the later models are power from a USB powered injector it's only 4vdc but the older ones are 15-18vdc. Any way to distinguish between them ?
The LNA200 has ALWAYS used a USB power supply, it has never used anything else since it came out a few years ago (mid 2013?).
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The LNA200 has ALWAYS used a USB power supply, it has never used anything else since it came out a few years ago (mid 2013?).
I just found the reviews on TVfool (http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=13530) that show the RCA TVPRAMP1R performs better than the LNA200. Mr. Higgins' review was thorough and convinced me to go with the RCA instead. I hope he is a real person and not fictitious shill working for RCA.
Thank you for your replies gentlemen. I learned a lot about TV antennas from the many Posted write-ups here. Nice website.
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Has anyone here ever run into a situation where some channel signals became weak all of the sudden, for no apparent reason?

This just happened with me, affecting WWOR-TV (channel 9.1) and H&I Heroes & Icons (channel 9.4). Yesterday, my Sony TV tuner (1080p) was unable to pick up anything from those stations. Signal strength 0. However, my DVR tuner could pick up the stations (it is unfortunately limited to 480p). Most other stations were fine on my TV. I swapped antennas and no difference. However, I then tried a 3rd antenna small and convenient enough to operate by hand and move around. Fiddling with the dial on it I was able to get 9.1 and 9.4, but at about 50% weaker and only from a very specific position.

So my conclusion was that some very weird problem happened with my TV tuner and since it's an older TV, it's not fixable.

But then the next day (today), I discovered the stations were back!

I don't watch a lot of OTA TV, but I'm wondering if periodically stations may momentarily significantly reduce the signal for a while.
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I don't watch a lot of OTA TV, but I'm wondering if periodically stations may momentarily significantly reduce the signal for a while.
If a station has an equipment problem, they might reduce power or move to a backup facility for a short time. And, indeed, my auto-scanner indicates something was up with the WWOR signal recently and is now back to normal.

https://www.rabbitears.info/tvdx/sig...tuner1/WWOR-TV

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If a station has an equipment problem, they might reduce power or move to a backup facility for a short time. And, indeed, my auto-scanner indicates something was up with the WWOR signal recently and is now back to normal.

https://www.rabbitears.info/tvdx/sig...tuner1/WWOR-TV

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Thank you very much, Trip. I didn't know about RabbitEars.info -- terrific resource!

I do realize weather can be a factor in signal strength, but I hadn't seen anything dramatic. I'm happy to know it was likely their transmitter.


I've browsed the site a bit... and have a question. What menu pathway do you follow in order to get the signal graphs for any station?
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Speaking of wwor
https://www.tmonews.com/2017/10/t-mo...york-city/amp/

Tmo pushing to get their 600mhz up.
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Good. WWOR is a waste anyway.

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Is anyone having extremely intermittent signal strength problems with CBS? In the last few days channel 2.1 has been dropping out even though the weather has been basically good (heavy rain will cause some channels to drop out for me). I also notice slight intermittent reception on WPIX (Channel 11) but the main problem is CBS.

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Is anyone having extremely intermittent signal strength problems with CBS? In the last few days channel 2.1 has been dropping out even though the weather has been basically good (heavy rain will cause some channels to drop out for me). I also notice slight intermittent reception on WPIX (Channel 11) but the main problem is CBS.


Well I get cbs on Long Island from the antenna out here and yesterday i couldn't get a signal at all in the daytime. Something must have been up.


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Can anyone suggest how I (or we) can find out what is going on with CBS?:

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Alp,

You best bet is to send a private message to TRIP if he doesn't see your comments and respond on this forum.
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I didn't realize the message was directed at me. The auto-scanner doesn't say anything's up with WCBS, but then, it only scans long enough to log the signal strength and then moves on, so tiny drops are unlikely to be caught.

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I didn't realize the message was directed at me. The auto-scanner doesn't say anything's up with WCBS, but then, it only scans long enough to log the signal strength and then moves on, so tiny drops are unlikely to be caught.

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Trip and Len, Thanks for the input. Whatever is going on at CBS is very erratic. Yesterday it was almost unwatchable, this morning it is crystal clear.

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I didn't realize the message was directed at me. The auto-scanner doesn't say anything's up with WCBS, but then, it only scans long enough to log the signal strength and then moves on, so tiny drops are unlikely to be caught.

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Actually it was not directed at you but I know you are monitoring the NY broadcasters from your aunts and you have the equipment to let us know if there is an issue impacting us. Well maybe not all the time but you have helped us with blips that have occurred now and then.
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Can anyone suggest how I (or we) can find out what is going on with CBS?:
I typically watch a lot of CBS but mostly recorded on my DVR+ so if there is a problem I may not see it for a week or more later!
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I have a spare used CM4228 outdoor antenna that I am willing to part with dirt cheap. It does a great job for NY reception. Anyone interested just send me a private message. Do not post a reply on this forum.
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Actually it was not directed at you but I know you are monitoring the NY broadcasters from your aunts and you have the equipment to let us know if there is an issue impacting us. Well maybe not all the time but you have helped us with blips that have occurred now and then.
Here's the link, so anyone who doesn't already have it can see it: https://m.rabbitears.info/index.php?...10343612&tno=1

Clicking the callsign will show the signal graph.

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Here's the link, so anyone who doesn't already have it can see it: https://m.rabbitears.info/index.php?...10343612&tno=1

Clicking the callsign will show the signal graph.

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I have to ask. Curr SS is for current signal strength?

What is Curr MER? I could not figure that one out and why is was so different from Curr SS.
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Yes (re: curr SS).

MER = Modulation Error Ratio. It's another term for SNR. In many places, you'll find it called "signal quality."

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Here's the link, so anyone who doesn't already have it can see it: https://m.rabbitears.info/index.php?...10343612&tno=1

Clicking the callsign will show the signal graph.

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Trip, I have been monitoring your site and noticed you have bad reception for 63.1 WMBC which I get out by my location 100% both signal strength and quality.

However when I checked your site today you do not show any results for 63.1. I just checked and it is on the air 100%.
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Trip, I have been monitoring your site and noticed you have bad reception for 63.1 WMBC which I get out by my location 100% both signal strength and quality.

However when I checked your site today you do not show any results for 63.1. I just checked and it is on the air 100%.
Yeah, it's a very old pair of rabbit ears sitting in the same closet as the computer and tuner. I couldn't manage to get all the signals to come in properly at the same time, so I prioritized getting WPIX and WNET at the same time, which was itself a juggling act. That, in turn, made WMBC, WNYE, WASA-LD, and WNYJ significantly worse. I figured people would find the network stations more useful to have information on. (It doesn't help that the location in question is on the wrong side of the house.)

There's actually an antenna in the attic, and a drop to that bedroom, but somewhere between the splitter in the attic and the wall port, there's either a cut cable or something disconnected, because no signal makes it to that particular drop. It's kind of disappointing. (I haven't been up there to see if it's just unplugged from the splitter or something simple like that, but I did pull the wall plate off and everything's fine in the box there.)

Next time I'm there, I'm planning to bring a different antenna to see if it improves things.

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Trip,

Thanks for the explanation and very fast response!

Your site is great and very helpful to us in the NY reception area! I expect with the repack coming, move to 1WTC and ATSC 3.0 it will be used by more of us on the AVS forum and even people not on the forum to monitor what is going on in OTA land!
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Yeah, it's a very old pair of rabbit ears sitting in the same closet as the computer and tuner. I couldn't manage to get all the signals to come in properly at the same time, so I prioritized getting WPIX and WNET at the same time, which was itself a juggling act. That, in turn, made WMBC, WNYE, WASA-LD, and WNYJ significantly worse. I figured people would find the network stations more useful to have information on. (It doesn't help that the location in question is on the wrong side of the house.)

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WNYJ is going dark this week
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source? i see the website is down. i wonder why, no money?

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Because they were bought by the FCC in the incentive auction and the deadline for stations that are not channel sharing to go off the air is 10/25.

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