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post #10651 of 10672 Old 06-19-2014, 04:55 PM
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Is anyone having problems with WUTF's two subchannels 66.2 (Bounce) and 66.3 (getTV). I'm getting full signal strength but my HDTV keeps saying that the "Mode is not Supported". This just started a few days ago.
Working fine for me.
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Is anyone having problems with WUTF's two subchannels 66.2 (Bounce) and 66.3 (getTV). I'm getting full signal strength but my HDTV keeps saying that the "Mode is not Supported". This just started a few days ago.
Video and audio OK on a Samsung HD TV and a Zenith DTV box - however there is no program guide data - just "Regularly Scheduled Programming" displayed on 66.1, 66.2, & 66.3 - so they may be having some problem with their data stream.
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Programming on 66.2 and 66.3 came back last night. Thanks to all those that checked. They must have been having problems with their multi-casting.
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Programming on 66.2 and 66.3 came back last night. Thanks to all those that checked. They must have been having problems with their multi-casting.


Recently channel 66 has made some unknown changes. Channel 66 went out again last week (around July 20, 2014) and is now back on air.

I do get reception on my TV with the built in ATSC in tuner as of July 25, 2014. Channels 66-1, 66-2 and 66-3 work fine on this TV (2011 vintage).

However, my ATSC converter boxes do not work with Channel 66 anymore. All teh boxes worked properly last week. No other broadcast channels have problems with these boxes. Channel 66-1 has picture and no sound, and 66-2 and 66-3 are not available. Reads out as Channel 27 in the setup menu.

Did virtual channel 66 change their broadcast frequency?
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Interesting. I went to the WUTF-DT web site to lodge a complaint, and all information is Spanish only. No way to contact them that I could find, so to save time I just made a complaint to the FCC. I used English in my FCC complaint, so there is a 50 - 50 chance that they will understand what I am talking about!
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Recently channel 66 has made some unknown changes. Channel 66 went out again last week (around July 20, 2014) and is now back on air.

I do get reception on my TV with the built in ATSC in tuner as of July 25, 2014. Channels 66-1, 66-2 and 66-3 work fine on this TV (2011 vintage).

However, my ATSC converter boxes do not work with Channel 66 anymore. All the boxes worked properly last week. No other broadcast channels have problems with these boxes. Channel 66-1 has picture and no sound, and 66-2 and 66-3 are not available. Reads out as Channel 27 in the setup menu.

Did virtual channel 66 change their broadcast frequency?
The subchannels were blank for 3 or 4 days. Last night 66-3 was back, but when I tried 66-2 the channel display jumped to 27-2, and the saved presets for 66-2 and 66-3 disappeared on both a Samsung TV and a Zenith DTV converter. 66-1 was OK on both. Scanning did not find 66-2 or 66-3 again. Even odder, today there is no audio on 66-1 on the Zenith box, but the TV is OK. PSIP problem probably. Of course, they may not even be aware of the problem, since they are apparently unreachable behind layers of bureaucracy.
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I sent channel 66 an e-mail.


Here is the e-mail address that I used: wutfpublicfile@univision.net


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https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wutf-dt
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Yup, there is a problem. My boxes are the Insignia brand (AKA Best Buy - Zenith).

I checked out my Sony TV, and this is what I noted. Virtual channels 27-1 and 27-2 are broadcast on channel 29. Virtual channel 27-3 is being broadcast on channel 27 (which is virtual channel 66).

Virtual channels 66-1, 66-2 and 66-3 are being broadcast on channel 27.

The Sony TV works fine.

The Insignia boxes do tune to channel 66-1, but there is only a picture and no sound. No signal on 66-2 and 66-3, and they do not tune in via the programming scan. For 27-3, it does not appear on the channel scan. If I use the remote to dial in 27-3, the Insignia box then shifts to channel 66-1.
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Now that I think about it, it looks like it is a WINI-DT channel 27 problem. Virtual channel 27-3 uses channel 27 instead of channel 29 (for PISP information at least).


E-mail: pbias@entravision.com

https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wuni
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Now that I think about it, it looks like it is a WINI-DT channel 27 problem. Virtual channel 27-3 uses channel 27 instead of channel 29 (for PISP information at least).


E-mail: pbias@entravision.com

https://stations.fcc.gov/station-profile/wuni
Whatever data is being transmitted - it is really messed up... Today:

Zenith DTV box:
27-1 Univision (normal)
27-2 LATV (normal)
66-1 UniMas (no audio)

Samsung TV:
27-1 Univision (normal)
27-2 LATV (normal)
27-3 GetTV (audio & video OK - must really be WUTF -3, without PSIP data)
66-1 UniMas (normal, has audio)

Sony TV - not tried until today:
27-1 Univision (normal)
27-2 LATV (normal)
27-3 no signal (description shows "Zuus TV" - may be older stored data in TV)
66-1 UniMas (no audio)
66-2 no signal (description shows WUTF-DT)
66-3 no signal (description shows WUTF-DT)

WUNI is probably not involved in this, but the incorrect display of "27" is likely due to that being the RF channel. It's interesting how the various DTV tuners react. These all share the same roof antenna. I have a DTV Pal box not in use somewhere - might try that too.

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My Sony TV (KDL 55-NX720 - 2011 vintage) receives all of the channels in question. Recently, channel 27-3 showed up on my channel list without me doing anything. Based on what I have seen, I assume then error is generated by virtual channel 66 WUTF-DT.

Virtual channel 27-3 is GET-TV being broadcast on channel 27 (programming of virtual channel 66-3). WUTF for sure based on station ID. I doubt that this is a correct virtual channel ID.

Virtual channels 66-1, 66-2, and 66-3 (GET-TV) work as they are supposed to work. Video and audio is normal.



My Insignia box (Best Buy brand - Zenith based box) works the same as your Zenith box. Funny thing is I never watch virtual channel 27.



Today I sent an E-mail to both channels. Let both of them sort out the issue.
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Perhaps my e-mails worked (sort of). WUTF-DT now works on all three channels. The only problem is they used channel 27 for the virtual channel.

So now WUTF-DT (RF channel 27) is on virtual channel 27-1, 27-2 and 27-3. WUTF-DT is supposed to be mapped to virtual channel 66-1, 66-2 and 66-3.

WUNI-DT (RF channel 29) is also on virtual channel 27-1 and 27-2.

So now there are two virtual channels 27-1 and 27-2 and as well as a single 27-3 virtual channel.
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Perhaps my e-mails worked (sort of). WUTF-DT now works on all three channels. The only problem is they used channel 27 for the virtual channel.

So now WUTF-DT (RF channel 27) is on virtual channel 27-1, 27-2 and 27-3. WUTF-DT is supposed to be mapped to virtual channel 66-1, 66-2 and 66-3.

WUNI-DT (RF channel 29) is also on virtual channel 27-1 and 27-2.

So now there are two virtual channels 27-1 and 27-2 and as well as a single 27-3 virtual channel.
It appears all is fixed now. 27-1 is WUNI / Univision and 27-2 is LATV. 66-1 is WUTF / UniMas, 66-2 is Bounce, and 66-3 is GetTV. The only thing that is missing is the program guide data, which may not update quickly.
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Yup, everything is back to normal. Now I can hide all the Spanish channels and watch the movie channels.
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Thanks bac522! I actually have an amazon prime subscription that I use mostly for free shipping...will need to dig into what is there a little more. If I do cut cable, I will probably get a Hulu subscription - wife likes to watch general hospital. We 'upgraded' to the X1 system from comcast about a month ago...and we have not even bothered to reprogram the DVR.

Looks like I'll be getting the CS2 antenna. Where it will be mounted outside could not possibly be closer to where the cable comes in from the street, so it will be a short run of cable. I am SO looking forward to saying goodbye to comcast for TV! Plan is to go for a week or 2 using OTA signal before actually canceling.

Greatly appreciate your reply, it makes me more confident it will succeed!
Just providing an update on this...I got the CS2 antenna and mounted it in the attic. WLVI did not come in, so I got a booster and that overall works quite well now - however, I should have just sprung for the CS4. Every once in a while WLVI or WHDH will drop out if there is weather between here and the tower, but overall I am pleased. Calling Comcast this past week to drop cable was, by far, the most gratifying phone interaction I have ever had with them

Appreciate the posts and help provided here!

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If you want a laugh, today I receiver a response from the FCC on the channel 66 issue.

The FCC gave a lecture on the proper placement and use of a TV antenna, and how to perform a channel scan or "double rescan". So they send me 6 pages of information that has nothing to do with the problem.

Maybe English is a second language at the FCC these days!
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So they send me 6 pages of information that has nothing to do with the problem.
Too funny, too sad. The whole world is boiler-plating customer service. The FCC, Comcast, big banks, all the same. One keyword triggers an automated response. You have to go on a crusade just to get a basic "we are aware of the problem and are working on it" response.
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Yeah, the Dept of Education is no better. I sent them an email yesterday about a specific student loan issue and all they did was cut and paste an unrelated webpage back to me as a reply.
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Too funny, too sad. The whole world is boiler-plating customer service. The FCC, Comcast, big banks, all the same. One keyword triggers an automated response. You have to go on a crusade just to get a basic "we are aware of the problem and are working on it" response.
Funny, Comcast can do it to themselves - they don't need the customer's help. I called them to take advantage of a speed increase promotion for my several year old business-class service. Was told they needed to replace the modem with a newer model - which they did - and it all worked fine. However, this triggered various welcome-new-customer functions, including 2 new customer phone calls, emails with how to set up email..., online bill payment, etc., and oddly, an email on whether the recent service call (to replace the modem) had resolved my "issues"...
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Escape added as 66-4 to WUTF

WUTF has added Escape, currently running only a loop of movie previews, on 66-4.
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WUTF has added Escape, currently running only a loop of movie previews, on 66-4.
Always happy to see new channels added to free OTA !

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Escape will look to attract women in the 25 to 54 demographic with crime and mystery programming the network calls “daring and sexy.” Programming will include theatrical movies and off-net series with heroines trying to evade peril that will give female viewers a chance to escape their daily cares.
Hopefully we'll see the Grit channel soon!

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Grit will be built around the classic male hero archetype with war and action oriented theatrical movies and off-net series that feature stars like John Wayne, Clint Eastwood and Chuck Norris.
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Always happy to see new channels added to free OTA !

Hopefully we'll see the Grit channel soon!
For some reason, even though they seemed to be paired channels from the same source, Katz, WUTF is only airing Escape. WLNE New Bedford / Providence has both - Grit on 6-2, Escape on 6-3.
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