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^^^ cool.

HARCOURT FENTON MUDD!!!!!!!!!
You can hear that on MeTV...All for new channels with OTA, but sounds a little like the genre MeTV is already catering too. Than again a lot of shows have been made over the years, so there's enough to pick from...would love to see old reruns of Miami Vice back on the screen!
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All for new channels with OTA, but sounds a little like the genre MeTV is already catering too. Than again a lot of shows have been made over the years, so there's enough to pick from...would love to see old reruns of Miami Vice back on the screen!
I'm looking forward to this. Wish we got AntennaTV. You can never have too many classic programs on the dial.
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MeTV, AntennaTV, Decades, Escape, Grit, Ion etc. All newish offerings - yippee! But sometimes it feels like limited old material is just being spread out across more channels. Every new channel means that some previous channel's offerings are diluted and back-filled with infomercials. Am I being too cynical? More OTA is always good, can't argue with that. But is adding subchannels just re-arranging the deck chairs?
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MeTV, AntennaTV, Decades, Escape, Grit, Ion etc. All newish offerings - yippee! But sometimes it feels like limited old material is just being spread out across more channels. Every new channel means that some previous channel's offerings are diluted and back-filled with infomercials. Am I being too cynical? More OTA is always good, can't argue with that. But is adding subchannels just re-arranging the deck chairs?
Yes. Definitely.

For starters, there is a LOT of programming out there. We are just starting to scratch the surface. The big difference between broadcast or cable and OTT is continuous programming. When we had cable, the Food Network and History Channel were our background noise. With broadcast, we tend to leave the set tuned to ION or MeTV. Decades looks like a good all day channel. Of course, not everyone cannot pick up every channel every day. It's nice to be able to find a good strong channel with programming you love. Finally, great subchannels en masse are one area where the premium providers struggle to keep up. More unique subchannels mean more OTA enthusiasts which will lead to more OTA programming. So it's good for 'our business' too!
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IIRC, don't subchannels take bandwidth away from the main channel with a result of lower picture quality? I see absolutely no need to have a TV on all day as background noise. If I have the TV on, I'm actually sitting there and watching it. If I'm not watching TV, I'm either working, listening to music (which makes much better background noise, IMHO), reading a book, gone to the gym, sleeping, etc. That said, I have no problem with more content being available, but only if it doesn't affect the quality of the existing content.
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Has anyone here picked up the new WYCN-LD virtual 13 RF channel 36? It is located on the same tower as WBIN in Hudson, NH but with twice the power.
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Has anyone here picked up the new WYCN-LD virtual 13 RF channel 36? It is located on the same tower as WBIN in Hudson, NH but with twice the power.
Can't get it in Manchester.

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IIRC, don't subchannels take bandwidth away from the main channel with a result of lower picture quality? ... I have no problem with more content being available, but only if it doesn't affect the quality of the existing content.
You're correct some bandwidth is taken away if a broadcaster wants to transmit in 1080i or 720p at 19mbits. If there's been a loss in resolution by Fox25 offering Movies! in 480i, which would cut HD bandwidth from 19 to 15Mbits I don't notice it. WCVB local news appears every bit as sharp as WBZ despite 5.1 sharing its bandwidth with MeTV on 5.2. A lot of this has to do with the implementation of the MPEG compression.

Like you I don't use a TV for background entertainment. I use a radio or just plain quiet. But having programming like MeTV and Movies! is a great benefit for this Cable.never boomer
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Has anyone here picked up the new WYCN-LD
Here in Milford NH we are on the wrong side of some hills and unable to get either WYCN RF 36 or WBIN RF 35

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WHERE HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN?

NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS YET?????

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/8...-tv-subchannel



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WHERE HAVE YOU GUYS BEEN?

NOBODY KNOWS ABOUT THIS YET?????

http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/8...-tv-subchannel



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Due to the incredibly poor signal of WBIN, it can only be received OTA by a small percentage of viewers in the Boston market - so it probably gets less attention in the Boston OTA thread. WBIN's LiveWell subchannel (50.2) is carried by many cable systems in the market, which likely will just continue with AntennaTV.

WBIN (formerly WZMY) went from a 4700 KW analog signal on ch 50 to a 7.3 KW digital signal on ch 35. (The reference to 18 is the cable channel it is commonly carried on.)
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Everyone should visit Binnie's facebook page and encourage him to put some power behind his signal...

https://www.facebook.com/2010Binnie/timeline
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Everyone should visit Binnie's facebook page and encourage him to put some power behind his signal...

https://www.facebook.com/2010Binnie/timeline

Probably he could buy one of the low power stations near the market center cheap, to use as a translator. For example - the long off-the-air WHDT-LD (Deutsche Welle - RF ch 38).
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Probably he could buy one of the low power stations near the market center cheap, to use as a translator. For example - the long off-the-air WHDT-LD (Deutsche Welle - RF ch 38).
Unless he views OTA as an expensive nuisance that is required in order to get cable carriage.
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Nice. Gotta reprogram Moxi DVR to start showing the WBIN subchannel again...
(Via comcast cable @ $22/month, 2 HD outlets and 3 SD/DTA outlets, no HD-tech fee....
I've dumped OTA for now, primarily because my moxi HD-DVR is so much better than my channelmaster-7000 OTA HD-DVR.)
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Unless he views OTA as an expensive nuisance that is required in order to get cable carriage.
WBIN does have 3 translators in NH, but they are under separate ownership. The main signal is so low in power that it is hard to believe it even qualifies as a full power station. Still, they seem to have cable coverage in all of the Boston market, although much of it is beyond any chance of over the air reception.
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Due to the incredibly poor signal of WBIN, it can only be received OTA by a small percentage of viewers in the Boston market -
I'm in Southern NH and have never been able to get any of Binnie's stations. Used to get 50 during analog days. The other problem for us is here in Milford it is off axis. Our UHF antenna points to Boston and VHF to WMUR/WENH. We have a rotor but it is questionable, so unless there is something really compelling we are not going to be able to receive it.

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New CBS subchannel coming!

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NEW YORK and CHICAGO – The CBS Television Stations group, a division of CBS Corporation (NYSE: CBS.A and CBS), and Weigel Broadcasting today announced plans to launch DECADES, a new national entertainment programming service for distribution across local television stations’ digital subchannels – broadcast channels that utilize a local station’s available spectrum to provide a companion to that station’s primary channel. For example, in the New York market, WCBS-TV will continue to be available digitally as Channel 2.1 and DECADES will be available as Channel 2.2. In addition to being available as an over-the-air broadcast channel, DECADES will appear on numerous local cable systems and other multichannel video programming distribution services along with the stations’ primary channels.

Utilizing a library of more than 100 classic television series, including select titles from the CBS library such as I LOVE LUCY from the 1950s, STAR TREK from the 1960s, HAPPY DAYS from the 1970s and CHEERS from the 1980s, as well as a wide selection of theatrical and made-for-television movies and footage of historical news events from the archives of CBS News and ENTERTAINMENT TONIGHT, DECADES will provide viewers with a new way to experience our shared historical and cultural past.

As the ultimate TV time machine, DECADES will differentiate itself from other subchannel programming services by varying the classic series and movies that appear on the network every day.

“DECADES is the most ambitious and creative subchannel programming service that has ever been created,” said Peter Dunn, President, CBS Television Stations. “We are thrilled to partner with Weigel Broadcasting, the leaders in this space, to make smart use of our stations’ spectrums and our companies’ considerable programming assets. This service will be a tremendous new business for CBS and all of the other stations across the country that participate, regardless of their primary network affiliation.”

“DECADES takes the digital broadcast network platform to a new level. Viewers will ‘Relive, Remember & Relate’ to the events that touched their lives and generations past. The events, themes and programming possibilities are endless. We are truly honored to be chosen as the company to develop the CBS Television Stations’ diginet product, and look forward to the launch of DECADES next year,” stated Norman H. Shapiro, President of Weigel.

DECADES will take viewers into a daily time capsule presentation of entertainment, popular culture and news. The service will feature DECADES RETROSPECTICALSM, a daily one-hour program that will be produced around the news events and cultural touchstones of a specific day, week or other time frame or theme. The TV series and movies presented each day will reflect that day’s theme or commemorative event.

For example, DECADES will look back at classic series such as HAPPY DAYS and its “jump the shark” episode, explain its historical significance and then broadcast that episode. Viewers will also be taken back in time to rediscover events that shaped our world, such as the assassination of President John F. Kennedy, Neil Armstrong walking on the moon, the Beatles’ U.S. debut on THE ED SULLIVAN SHOW and the birth of software and technology companies like Microsoft and Apple. DECADES will connect these events to what people were watching on television, seeing at the movies and experiencing as a nation.

DECADES is expected to debut during the second quarter of 2015, with the 16 CBS-owned stations that are part of the CBS Television Network serving as the new service’s launch group. This includes the CBS stations serving New York City (WCBS), Los Angeles (KCBS), Chicago (WBBM), Philadelphia (KYW), Dallas (KTVT), San Francisco (KPIX), Boston (WBZ), Detroit (WWJ), Minneapolis-St. Paul (WCCO and its satellite stations KCCO and KCCW), Miami (WFOR), Denver (KCNC), Sacramento (KOVR), Pittsburgh (KDKA) and Baltimore (WJZ).

Weigel will be responsible for securing affiliation agreements with other stations across the country.

About CBS Television Stations
CBS Television Stations consists of 29 owned-and-operated stations, including 16 that are part of the CBS Television Network, eight affiliates of The CW Network, three independent stations and two MyNetworkTV affiliates. Among its stations are WCBS-TV and WLNY-TV (New York), KCBS-TV and KCAL-TV (Los Angeles), WBBM-TV (Chicago), KYW-TV and WPSG-TV (Philadelphia), KTVT-TV and KTXA-TV (Dallas-Ft. Worth), KPIX-TV and KBCW-TV (San Francisco), WBZ-TV and WSBK-TV (Boston), WUPA-TV (Atlanta), WWJ-TV and WKBD-TV (Detroit), WTOG-TV (Tampa-St. Petersburg), KSTW-TV (Seattle), WCCO-TV (Minneapolis), KCNC-TV (Denver), WFOR-TV and WBFS-TV (Miami), KOVR-TV and KMAX-TV (Sacramento), KDKA-TV and WPCW-TV (Pittsburgh), WJZ-TV (Baltimore), as well as WCCO-TV’s satellite stations KCCO-TV (Alexandria, Minn.) and KCCW-TV (Walker, Minn.).
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Thanks wizwor, that's pretty good news. But I have to laugh at part of it...
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select titles from the CBS library such as I LOVE LUCY from the 1950s, STAR TREK from the 1960s, HAPPY DAYS from the 1970s and CHEERS from the 1980s
Star Trek originally aired on NBC
Happy Days aired on ABC
Cheers aired on NBC.

So the proud select titles in the CBS library are actually from other networks' libraries. As Ricky R would say "CBS you got some 'splainin' to do"! Where is "All In The Family"? Still too controversial?

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Paramount made the shows; cbs owns paramount.

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Thanks wizwor, that's pretty good news. But I have to laugh at part of it...

Star Trek originally aired on NBC
Happy Days aired on ABC
Cheers aired on NBC.

So the proud select titles in the CBS library are actually from other networks' libraries. As Ricky R would say "CBS you got some 'splainin' to do"! Where is "All In The Family"? Still too controversial?
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Paramount made the shows; cbs owns paramount.
Yeah, I'm still humored by the misleading name of "CBS library", rather than Paramount. Most people will think of CBS as a TV network. So when CBS claims it has a "library" many young, new viewers will not realize these shows were ordered, paid for, and originally shown by rival networks. It's all spin.
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Yeah, I'm still humored by the misleading name of "CBS library", rather than Paramount. Most people will think of CBS as a TV network. So when CBS claims it has a "library" many young, new viewers will not realize these shows were ordered, paid for, and originally shown by rival networks. It's all spin.
You can see it after shows - NBC/CBS/Fox/Paramount/Fremantle logo, etc. It caused me to investigate this further the first time I saw it years ago.
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Yes the DECADES channel was discuss back at post Boston, MA - OTA

Not complaining with more OTA options, but something other than classics would be nice, I already get a bunch of channels that show these classics!

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