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post #1 of 23473 Old 08-04-2003, 06:10 PM - Thread Starter
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Yesterday I finally put up a RS VU-90XR antenna on my single story (chimney mount). I live in N. Olmsted.

I used to have a satellite dish but when I canceled it I just unplugged the cable from the dish & re-routed it to the VU-90XR.

I can now pick up 3, 5, 8, 19, & 43 - all of them comes in around 50% on my Samsung SIR-T150.

The 50% all around makes me wonder. I do have a tree in the direction of where the UV-90XR is pointing but I'm wondering if I should be getting better than 50% on some/all channels?

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im down in cuyahoga falls and get abc (93%), fox (69%), and cbs (93-100%) and i use the terk indoor antenna everyone complains about...

you can probably improve your strength if you tweek your antenna

i dont get nbc channel 3 at all .. but ive heard that their power is weak

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post #3 of 23473 Old 08-05-2003, 06:15 PM - Thread Starter
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Thanks. I need to tweak the antenna angle this weekend.

Wow, you getting 93% with indoor antenna
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I live in Wellington, which is probably 30 miles southwest of North Olmsted. I had to go to an outdoor antennae to pick up CBS reliably, and finally be able to pull in NBC. I get anywhere from85%-95% on all stations now....
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does anyone know if wews shuts its digital transmitted off during nonprime time hours the way ch43 does?
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TAKOSAN,
From North Olmsted point your antenna southeast past the airport to the Parma tv towers. That should give you 70 to 100% if your antenna is on the roof. Slightly less if antenna is in the attic. WEWS CH 5-1 seems to be doing some upgading lately. Their signal is on & off, up & down, all over the map. Hopefully they and CH 43-1 will have it all fixed by the time the new fall shows start.

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ABC is down again today. I hope this is not going to be an ongoing problem. With MNF starting soon....maybe they are upgrading to DD 5.1!
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WEWS is at 0's for me I get NBC and fox great, but CBS is also bad now(18-30's). What are you guys getting CBS at?

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I also forgot to add, that WKYC(NBC) sometimes has an occasional dropout. Are any of yoy having this problem? If so, we need to organize a group call in to have them fix this.

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Channel 3 is usually so prone to dropouts for me that I don't ever watch it. Except for the radar channel lately. You know, with all the rain and all.

I'm in Medina, and signal strength is about 85%. I just chalk it up to the fact that it's a low VHF station, and there must be a lot of "interference" on the channel. But if it's something that they could fix on there end, I'd be all for it!
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ABC is still down (sunday night) was a 100% on friday- so maybe they are working on the STRENGTH of their antennas...

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Just spoke with Mr. Baird in engineering. Digital is down and he was on the phone ordering parts. Also Ch 43 is on the air 12-12 daily. I receive CBS at 69 % in Bath. Many evenings signal does break up around 9
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Thanks for the update. Any mention on when ABC might upgrade to DD 5.1 audio?
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ABC is still down today.
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Hey guys, just a thought,

Since this thread keeps growing about all the crap we get from local dtv in cleveland, and since it has a decent thread title, how about we make this an unofficial official cleveland thread to post all the cleveland problems in?

Just a thought.

btw, WKYC is always 100% for me. I just chalk that up to being lucky. I lose the signal occasionaly though when my dad runs his paper shredder, or with the dish washer running. But thats just cuz those morons put it on channel 2 instead of going UHF.

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Originally posted by Mike_Stuewe
Hey guys, just a thought,

Since this thread keeps growing about all the crap we get from local dtv in cleveland, and since it has a decent thread title, how about we make this an unofficial official cleveland thread to post all the cleveland problems in?

Just a thought.

btw, WKYC is always 100% for me. I just chalk that up to being lucky. I lose the signal occasionaly though when my dad runs his paper shredder, or with the dish washer running. But thats just cuz those morons put it on channel 2 instead of going UHF.

Mike

Great idea Mike. Lets make this the offical thread.

Ken H....can you help with this??? Please add "Offical" to the title.

Thanks,

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abc still down in cleveland -- this is getting ridiculous

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Just spoke with engineering at Ch 5. Waiting on parts that were ordered. Earliest is Thursday could be as late as Mon. Hopes to have it fixed by Monday Night. He used the word HOPE. That is the latest and greatest from Cleve. Keep this forum going
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Hey, as long as ABC has it ready to go by the first Monday night game, thats all I care about.
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Yeah, Football is the main concern, although its a good thing its not the Browns playing Monday Night. Can't wait til the uproar occurs when something goes wrong when the Browns are on MNF on that Sunday game against the 49ers on CBS.
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Heres hoping that with the repairs they are making, they are also upgrading to 5.1
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I want to touch on 2 things here
First, if there is a program that should be in HD but our local isn't broadcasting it in HD, then call the channels newsroom(the news room is always open), and then ask for MASTER CONTROLL. Once they answer, ask them to flip the switch, and bam, you have HDTV)

Here are the numbers to call to get in touch with our locals(these may be a little out of date, but I haven't had any problems):

Thanks To Blaney for posting these 2 years ago


WKYC, analog 3, D-2, NBC
general 216-344-3333
newsroom 216-344-3300
Rex Rickly, chief engineer 216-344-3353
Donna Cropf, Programming 216-344-3559


WOIO, analog 19, D-10, CBS
general 877-929-1943
Harry Wilkens, chief engineer, 216-367-7450
Jim Kopanski **engineer, good guy 216-367-7455
Bryan Anderson, programming 216-367-7114


WJW, Analog 8, D-31, Fox
general 216-432-4240
John Cifani, engineer 216-432-4888


WEWS, analog 5, D-15, ABC
general 216-431-5555
Ken Jackson, chief engineer 216-431-3494


About a year or two back, we had a problem with WKYC(freequent dropouts(about every 10 seconds). We organized a group call in effort, and each cleveland area member called in a few times to let engineering know that there were digital channel viewers who want the channel fixed. After a week of the calls, the channel was fixed!

We need to do something like this again(on a larger scale(there are more of us know then there were 2 years ago)).

The Problems that each local has:

ABC:
Not on the air at the moment.
No 5.1 sound(they have been promising this to us for over a year!!!!!)

NBC:
Still having occasional dropouts, but nowhere as freequent as they once were

CBS:
Their signal strenth is crap! It has never been good, and it wont be(rumor has it that they bought the wrong type of antenna for our region).

FOX:
I dont have any problems with FAUX because they dont broadcast in HDTV!

PBS:
Ok, others have had HDTV through PBS for 2 years now.....Lets get it together PBS. I understand how Public TV works, but cmon

WB:
They have been offering programming for over 6 months....Lets get on the bandwagon here!


I think that if you guys are interested in solving some of these problems, we need to work together. If you guys are up for it we can organize and pick a local per week to annoy untill everything is up to our standards. We may be annoying them, but once HDTV becomes more mainstream, they will be glad that everything is up and running.


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WEWS chief engineer is John Workman.
Anyone else notice that WKYC takes a little longer to pop in. I have spoken with Rex, I know him personally and they are aware of the problem. It is a PSIP problem and they do not know how to solve it. Also bad weather does affect their signal more than others. Do not be fooled by claims that digital signals are not affected by rain. They are. Keep this group running!!!
I do not think anyone in Cleve is broadcasting DD 5.1. If they are let me know.
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Fred,

as far as PBS and the WB are concerned, I think WVIZ and WBNX have legal issues to deal with. I know WBNX has a problem with their digital station broadcasting into Canada. Not sure what the issue was with WVIZ. Oddly, one day my dad ran into, I believe on of the engineers, of WVIZ. He said once the legal issues get cleared up, they will have to order the equipment, and that will take at least 4 months to receive and install. This was last month so at the earliest we are looking at Winter for WVIZ.
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you are right, there is no 5.1 in cleveland right now. if anyone is close, it is ABC, but they have been saying that they will upgrade soon, but they never do..
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hey guys i live in willowick by rt 2 and e 305 intersection im only able to get 8-1 and 43-1. im usin the stealth vhf/uhf in my attic. im gettin be picture with that antenna than i was with my radio sahck giant antenna. anything else i can do to get the other stations in?
thanx zelko
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Group.

I'm all for picking a station to pester each week. The squeaky wheel gets the oil.

On another note. I have the Dish 6000 receiver and could get CBS HD via the satellite. Has anyone had any luck getting the waiver from CBS WOIO?
WOIOs poor signal strength has ruined many great HD programs for me over the last nine months.

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I tried years ago and no waiver given. Stations are pretty strict about that
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Who do you suggest we pester first?

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I vote for NBC - cause their signal sucks

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