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post #481 of 14421 Old 03-26-2004, 12:38 PM - Thread Starter
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Doc,

LOL. too many W's P's and O's. I messed up too, meant to go back and edit my last post but wasn't paying much attention+hit the delete checkbox/button ... Luckily, the below was in clipboard, however ...

Clarke,

Haven't heard anything new here. It still says Early spring on air date on ThinkTV's website for WPTO-DT. However, I did notice that FCC recently granted their latest CP extension request(their 2nd CP extension). Although Their first extension should have ran out in Nov 03, FCC didn't grant the 2nd extension until early Feb 04, and according to info on FCC site, the 2nd extension doesn't expire now until 8/04. Hopefully, we'll still see them on air soon, however. They are the last station in our area with a DTV channel allocation/CP which hasn't yet made it to air. Here's the expiration info/etc. on WPTO-DT's latest CP extension.

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...tion_id=682201

Links to all of WPTO/DT apps and info(The apps/exibits attached as sent to FCC by the station are available for the WPTO-DT CP/CP Mod+extensions via the "application" links -- Acrobat reader is required to view the exhibits/etc)

http://svartifoss2.fcc.gov/cgi-bin/w...ility_id=25065

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WCPO-DT UPDATE NEW TARGET DATE IS MID OF MAY. THIS IS IF GOOD WEATHER DAYS FOR TOWER WORK.
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IF GOOD WEATHER DAYS FOR TOWER WORK.

In other words, first of July

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Thanks for the update dtv insider.

Also, I think you meant WPTO-DT

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I'll definately have to get the OTA hookup to check out the new offerings this summer.
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What was up with 12-1 and the HD broadcast of today's NCAA Regional Finals? The First game was in HD, but geeze - everytime they broke to slow motion the picture got "fuzzy" - soft and lots of noise artifacts. I was chalking this up to back HD at the front end, until watching the second game - no HD and the same artifacts.

I am glad that next weekend I'll be in NC to watch the thing on closed circuit with the Cameron Crazies. LOL.

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You can thank WebHopper. With only 15MB/s for HD, that happens no matter what live HD they're showing. You don't see it during filmed dramas because 3:2 pulldown doens't eat up so much bandwidth.

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Maybe Clear Channel will decide there's not enough money to be made in the high speed internet business and drop Web Hopper. I know alot of people can't get any type of broadband though. That may change since Cinergy announced BPL a few weeks ago. I'd love to have CBS in full 18MB/s High Definition.

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The price point for Cinergy's service and cellular internet services keep WH from being as profitable as it probably could be. Then, there's the issue of the phone line for upstream. But the nail for WH will probably be picture quality. Right now, TV stations will spend small fortunes if it'll improve their analog signal just a smidgen. Gotta look as good as the next guy. Once the digital penetration reaches a certain point, that'll become an issue with ATSC as well. That's when we'll see WH move off to WKOI or some digital station that has no need for HD.

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Of course, we all know Clear Channel would never trade program quality for an extra buck. Especially not with their radio stations.
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Program quality, no. Technical quality, yes. CC, Infinity and the rest will dole out a fortune to make sure their audio quality equals the competition. There's not an engineering office in this town that isn't littered with audio processing gear that's barely 4 or 5 years old.

On the other hand, half of the studios are operating with consoles long since discontinued. Go figure.

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Probably because it's such a major pain to change out a console, and it's easy to replace the parts inside them (caps, chips, pots, etc.) at a low cost (as long as you buy them from a parts supply house and not the console manufacturer...)

Anyway, back on topic, I watched the first half of the HD game toggling between WHIO and WKRC since I didn't feel like leaving to turn the antenna while the game was going on. Definitely noticeable macroblocking, the worst of which did show up on the visual effects that they use wipe to replays and back.

I switched over to WBNS for the second half and only noticed slight blocking on the wipe to replays. They send full bandwidth HD plus DD 5.1 sound.
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Does anyone here subscribe to Adelphia's HDTV service out of Amelia? I live up in Columbus, going to Ohio State, but my parents live in Bethel and are interested in getting the HD service without having to go the satellite route. If anyone has it, how much is it a month and is the picture quality any good? Also, when are they planning on adding non-locals like Discovery, ESPN, InHD, HDnet, etc.? Thanks.
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FYI, the following is an excerpt from the WCPO-DT newsletter for those of you that don't subscribe:

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Good news! We will be broadcasting in 5.1 audio very soon! Upon
arrival to our new studio location at 1720 Gilbert, we will be in the
process of switching from stereo surround to 5.1. I'm just glad that I
finally have some news for you concerning this!

Regards,

Greg Ruschman, Jr.
wcpo.com Web Content Editor

I know some of you have been waiting for this, although he doesn't specify a date other than "very soon".

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Great news! I hope that others will follow their lead.
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For those who have TWC, you can call up TWC and ask the get a free two month trial of the HD Tier. I received a flyer in the mail and called up and had no problems getting this deal. You'll of course need to have one of the HD boxes.

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Slightly off-topic, but I haven't found anywhere to really ask about Cinci related services.

Background : Had Dish for a while, swapped to D* due to (at the time) Dish's requirement to have multiple dishes for locals and HDTV, and I have just moved. While I do have D* hardware (2 RCA cheapies and a Samsung TS160), I'm open to swapping to a new provider especially if it provides a way to archive HD content. I don't really like TWC (especially in the older neighborhoods where the cable comes in above ground), but I'd probably consider it if the STBs have decent firewire support.

Any recommendations? If this is too off-topic, PMs would be appreciated.

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Hello Mark--

The Directv HD-Tivo is shipping this week. I do not believe the unit supports firewire.

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Have any Cincy TWC customers requested a firewire box yet?
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For those who are interested and haven't seen the schedule at ( http://www.cincinnatihdtv.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=8 )

These are the Upcoming HD-One Movies on WKRC-DT :

Star Trek: The Motion Picture - April - 4/10 8pm
Star Trek II-The Wrath of Khan - May - 5/8 8pm
Star Trek III-The Search for Spock - June - 6/12 8pm
Raider of the Lost Ark - July - 7/10 - 8pm
Star Trek IV-The Voyage Home - August - 8/14 - 8pm
Star Trek V-Final Frontier - September - 9/11 8pm
Star Trek VI-The Undiscovered Country - October
The Godfather - November
The Godfather, Part II - November
Major League - December

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Thanks to WHWeasel for getting+posting the schedule --- Note -- So far, all the HDone movies shown on WKRC-DT the last couple of years have been in OAR.

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I am sure many of you will be happy to hear that WKRC-DTV bandwidth will be increased from 15mb to 17mb or higher.

WebHopper is being discontinued effective May 31st at 23:59.

More info can be found here.


http://www.web-hopper.com/residential/home.html

So now we will truly find out if WebHopper and the bandwidth it was taking is/was to blame for poor PQ on the WKRC-DTV.

If you have any questions about this let me know and I will answer them as soon as I am able.

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I didn't expect CC to discontinue WH so soon. I hope that with the increased bandwidth, WKRC will be able to broadcast in DD 5.1. I'm sure the video will improve unless they have plans to add a few sub channels i.e WCET-DT.

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DD5.1 requires extra gear that is not currently installed at WKRC at this time. They are looking into the the DD5.1 area and may have something near the end of the year.

As for the use of the bandwidth that will become available that is still being decided.

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Just tell us who we need to contact to sway it the full-bandwidth for HD way. .

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All..

Am I the only one who loses audio on WXIX-DT for large chunks of time? I timeshift Tru Calling and lost sound from the second to third segments, Thursday night.

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Doc,

I'll try to pay more attention, but I haven't noticed any audio problems from WXIX-DT recently. I didn't get to catch all of it, but I saw bits and pieces(throughout) of WS "Tru Calling" on WXIX-DT last night and didn't notice any audio problems. I did notice when channel surfing on wed. night that they were in weirdscreen mode throughout Fox prime.

On another note, Just noticed WSTR-DT isn't currently remapping to 64-1 here, it's showing up as 33-2.

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33-1 here.

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33-2 on my Zenith C34W37 HDTV. Maybe they are getting ready to show the WB in true HD. Then again its Sinclair, so I doubt it.




Regarding WXIX, I notice a dropout in audio when they switch from the network to a local spot. It lasts only for a second or two. I haven't noticed any audio problems on the network feed though.

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Microbob..

I get the drop going to and from local breaks, too. But about once a week, it stays gone until the next break. I'll have to start logging times, I guess...

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Sinclair Stations WKEF-DT Dayton(NBC currently) and WSYX-DT Columbus(ABC) do pass HD -- WTTE-DT (operated by Sinclair under LMA) Columbus does Fox widescreen, but WRGT-DT(operated by Sinclair under LMA) Fox dayton doesn't yet do Fox WS, even though they are shown as "HD-ready" on Sinclair website.

So, perhaps I'm a little more optimistic, but still .... basically ---- I'll believe it when I see it ... There is some recent, hopefully encouraging news at following links however :

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showt...30#post3603830

And here:

http://digitaltelevision.com/articles/article_602.shtml

Hopefully, Mister DTV will soon post detailed info on the HD upgrades planned for their stations, and hopefully WSTR will be included on the list ....

update 3:55pm: Went out to do some yard work -- I had left receiver tuned to WSTR-DT, when I came back, it was remapped to 64-1 as usual ...

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