Originally posted by jim tressler
anyway I am out in Maineville / Hamilton Township and according to antenna web I would need a medium gain - amplified antenna - I am just curoius as to what people are using and have had good luck with.. thanks!
There are many options that might work well for you, although - unless you want to experiment with simple indoor antennas, I'd keep away from non-directional antennas.
An small to medium sized VHF-UHF combo antenna such as the Winegard HD7080p ( http://www.winegard.com/offair/pdf/hd7080p.pdf
) would probably be a good choice, -- CM(CM3016)+Radio shack(VU-90, VU-75) have simliar sized VHF/UHF combo antennas with similar performance, although the winegard antennas are probably a little better than those, especially when it comes to UHF gain. -- Keep in mind, While most Digital stations are on UHF currently, ABC Cincinnati(WCPO-DT) broadcasts on VHF 10, and in the future(after analog shut off) more stations will likely move their digital station to their current analog VHF channel.
For best results, mount antenna outdoors as high as reasonably possible and aim it towards the towers of the stations you wish to receive. Be sure to properly ground(many good threads on Grounding in the Hardware area of AVS). One heading should suffice from your location for all the Cincinnati stations. If you want to pull in Both Dayton+Cincinnati stations, you'll either need a rotor or seperate antennas on seperate feedlines with a a/b switch near your receiver to switch between antenna.
I'd try it without the preamp first though -- You might not need it -- Preamps can help, but sometimes they can hurt as well.
To try to answer your questions -- I'm North of Middletown - 12 Miles from Dayton antenna farm, 27~39 Miles from the Cincy/N KY TV towers and except for WSTR-DT/WCVN-DT/WKOI-DT, I can pull in all the Cincinnati/Dayton Digitals with decent results with a simple UHF folded dipole (Here's a pic: http://www.radioshack.com/product.as...ct%5Fid=15-234
) for UHF and Rabbit Ears for WCPO-DT 10 - With these antennas placed near a 2nd story window that faces the towers(East window for Dayton, South window for Cincinnati). I didn't notice any dropouts or reception problems with that setup when I was seeing how well it would do, but then again, I didn't check it for very long -- Just a couple of hours. Analog reception wasn't too great in comparison with this setup -- quite Ghosty+Snowy. For fun I also tried experimenting with an antenna in attic, and I really didn't get much of anything from there. I should mention, I'm in a small, steep forested valley which impairs my reception somewhat, however, the terrain issues aren't too bad towards Dayton+Cincinnati Towers.
As for what I actually use -- I posted a pic of it here: http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...418&fullpage=1
No problems with any of the Dayton/Cincinnati stations with this -- No dropouts ! - I get excellent digital+analog reception with this setup -- I receive 21 Dayton/Cincinnati(and a couple of Columbus/Louisville stations on low-VHF) analogs most with excellent quality(as good as NTSC analog gets anyway), and 13 Digital stations(11 currently with HD or Fox widescreen) currently -- Due to their directional antenna pattern+low power, I only see WKOI-DT(TBN) when leaves are off trees. Yes, I receive 36 stations with it all the time, soon to be 37 I assume when WPTO-DT hits the airwaves.
The antenna on top in picture is a RS VU-210 antenna -- a large VHF-UHF combo - Boom is 16' long for reference - I put this one up in 1993 - still works like new -- w/rotor + Blonder-Tongue Preamp(80's vintage Galaxy Series Surburban II - About 20DB gain UHF, 10db gain VHF), mounted on top of a 40' tower -- I use the VU210 For Cincinnati+more distant stations - Including FM - when I can get them.
For Dayton+convienance so I don't have to wait for the rotor to rotate/etc I have a seperate antenna setup on a seperate feedline(using A/B switch near receiver to switch between Cincy/Dayton antennas), the antennas you see side mounted to tower are a 25 element UHF yagi(not sure of the brand - It's from the early 80's I believe+I found it in rafters in the garage) for UHF, and a "modified" CM3010+it's internal CM3038 preamp which I use for Dayton VHF/FM only. The CM3010 is pretty much a outdoor pair of rabbit ears, but it's fine for the Dayton VHF analogs+FM's - It's UHF section is particurarly poor+I wouldn't recommend it, which is why I removed the UHF section and hooked up a better UHF antenna to it's UHF input on the CM3010's internal circut board instead .... The setup is overkill for the most part -- except for getting watchable signals from stations like analog WBQC 25 UPN Cincinnati and WCMH 4 Columbus WAVE 3 Lousiville/etc ... I do however also need a decent setup to get good reception from WCVN-DT (KET/PBS in N KY).
Also -- I have these antennas hooked up to many different TV's and devices throughout the house, so I split the signal quite a bit(each split = about 3.5db of signal loss) therefore the preamp is quite helpful -- The terrain/trees I have here do seem to help attenuate the signals a bit before it gets to my antenna, If that weren't the case, Preamp overload would probably be a serious problem here where the nearby Dayton stations are concerned.
Probably more than you wanted to know, but you did ask! I TRIED to make it short anyway ;-)