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Two Stations!

I ordered a Clearstream 4V from Amazon just to return it after setting it up. It was set up right and still couldn't pull in 7 and 13 even with a preamp! I finally called tech support and found out I Didn't receive a 4V but a C4-CJM which is just UHF. They tried to sell me and a VHS add on for $30 but i told them I'll just return it.

I just need a 60 mile UHF/VHF antenna and am trying to find one here local rather than order. Anyone have any ideas?

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I ordered a Clearstream 4V from Amazon just to return it after setting it up. It was set up right and still couldn't pull in 7 and 13 even with a preamp! I finally called tech support and found out I Didn't receive a 4V but a C4-CJM which is just UHF. They tried to sell me and a VHS add on for $30 but i told them I'll just return it.

I just need a 60 mile UHF/VHF antenna and am trying to find one here local rather than order. Anyone have any ideas?

TIA
The Clearstream 4 antennas (there are two versions) are very good on UHF but are not tremendous on VHF. So it may not have been appropriate for your channels 7 and 13 (if those are the "real channel" and not the "virtual channel" numbers).

Go to http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=14508 and make a plot for your location and post it. Make sure to use a realistic number for antenna height or it defaults to 10 feet.

Also:
1. Where will the antenna go? Attic? Roof?
2. Look at your plot to see what direction the signals come from. If you stand on your roof and look in that direction do you have a clear line-of-sight? Or are there buildings and mountains between you and the towers?
More questions may follow.
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The Clearstream 4 antennas (there are two versions) are very good on UHF but are not tremendous on VHF. So it may not have been appropriate for your channels 7 and 13 (if those are the "real channel" and not the "virtual channel" numbers).

Go to http://forum.tvfool.com/showthread.php?t=14508 and make a plot for your location and post it. Make sure to use a realistic number for antenna height or it defaults to 10 feet.

Also:
1. Where will the antenna go? Attic? Roof?
2. Look at your plot to see what direction the signals come from. If you stand on your roof and look in that direction do you have a clear line-of-sight? Or are there buildings and mountains between you and the towers?
More questions may follow.
I ordered a V4 which supposed to be Vhs and Uhs, but they sent me a uhf only. Jake I'm 30' high on the roof and know my coordinates and I do live in a mountainous region surrounded by trees. I think I will try this one; Channel Master CM-4228HD High VHF, UHF and HDTV Antenna. I just wish I could pick her up locally. Thanks for the help!
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I ordered a V4 which supposed to be Vhs and Uhs, but they sent me a uhf only. Jake I'm 30' high on the roof and know my coordinates and I do live in a mountainous region surrounded by trees. I think I will try this one; Channel Master CM-4228HD High VHF, UHF and HDTV Antenna. I just wish I could pick her up locally. Thanks for the help!
Try this for purchasing one "locally" - order from Home Depot, Walmart, Best Buy, etc. Whether it's shipped to your home or to the store, you could likely return it to the store for a refund. To be sure, check their websites for return policies.
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The Channel Master CM-4228HD is a good antenna, but it is very directional.

I did a generic plot for Pickens, SC: http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wr...e6a4329efc4408

The signals received at your location may very greatly depending on terrain, etc.

A few comments.

Channels 7 (CBS - coming from 56 degrees), 9 (PBS - coming from 83 degrees) & 13 (ABC - coming from 2 degrees) are VHF-HI channels. The CM-4228HD (like the Clearsteam 4) is not designed to receive them. It's designed for real channels 14 & higher. Both antennas have some gain for VHF-HI, but it's trial and error. You are better off installing a separate VHF-HI antenna and aiming it about 40 degrees). [Note: The "real channel" is the channel the station is broadcast on. The "virtual channel" is what the channel calls itself. Sometimes they are the same. Very often they are different.] The VHF kit for the C4 might have worked, but we don't know because you didn't try it. There are several possibilities for VHF-HI, including the Clearstream-5 and the Stellar Labs 30-2475 (MCM Part #30-2475).

The CDM-4228HD also has a narrow reception band. [It's similar to the DB-8e and you can see the pattern at https://www.antennasdirect.com/cmss_...s/DB8E-TDS.pdf ]

I would go with something like a DB-4e, which has an antenna pattern of https://www.antennasdirect.com/cmss_...s/DB4E-TDS.pdf - that should be sufficient for your UHF channels, and if aimed properly, might even pick up MyN (WMYA) at 129 degrees.

You are certainly free to do what you want, but I recommend making a plot and posting it so we can assist you by providing the best options for your location. It saves work in the long run.
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I ordered a V4 which supposed to be Vhs and Uhs, but they sent me a uhf only. Jake I'm 30' high on the roof and know my coordinates and I do live in a mountainous region surrounded by trees. I think I will try this one; Channel Master CM-4228HD High VHF, UHF and HDTV Antenna. I just wish I could pick her up locally. Thanks for the help!
Digital VHF reception can be problematic, particularly WLOS which has a directional pattern which may have a null in certain parts of the Upstate. So you will need an antenna designed for High VHF real channels 7 and 13. And the preamp may cause problems if it overpowers certain strong signals.

For antenna, perhaps consider Winegard 7697 or 7698 models designed for High VHF and UHF. And for preamp, the Clearstream Juice from Antennas Direct is very good for overload protection. Or you could try a Winegard LNA100 inline amp.

Also the Stellar Labs High VHF antenna from MCM is probably a good suggestion, but you would also need to perhaps add a 4-bay UHF antenna for the UHF channels, using a UHF/VHF signal joiner which is also sold from MCM.
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Thank you for all your help!! I am just now seeing this and have already ordered and should be in Friday. After reading all the great reviews I purchased a ClearStream 2V Indoor/Outdoor HDTV Antenna and hope this is the one. I also will use my RCA TVPRAMP1Z Preamplifier.
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