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Hi, I'm trying to gather information on digital channels available in West Michigan. It would be great if anyone can correct the information below or add to it. The broadcast power information is a bit sketchy. I got it from the FCC site, but in several cases it seems like they listed the power of the analog station.

Are there any channels missing?
Should any Lansing channels be listed?
Can anyone point to other good resources for West Michigan information, like a map of the area with the locations of the broadcast towers?

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Digital Channels Currently Broadcasting:


Channel: Digital 7, Analog 8
Name: WOOD-DT
Network: NBC
City: Grand Rapids
Tower Location: N42 41' 14" W85 30' 34" (Wayland / Middleville)
Brodcast Power: 16.8 kW ERP - 30.0 kW ERP (??)
Broadcast Format: 1080i
Broadcasting HD content: Y
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Channel: Digital 19, Analog 17
Name: WXMI-DT
Network: Fox
City: Grand Rapids
Tower Location: N42 41' 15" W85 31'15" (Wayland / Middleville)
Brodcast Power: 70.0 kW ERP
Broadcast Format: 720P (upconverted Fox 480P)
Broadcasting HD content: Y
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Channel: Digital 24, Analog 54
Name: WTLJ-DT
Network: Independant - Religious
City: Muskegon
Tower Location: N42 57'25" W85 54'7" (Allendale)
Broadcast Power: 8.30 kW ERP (??)
Broadcast Format: ?
Broadcasting HD content: N
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Channel: Digital 39, Analog 13
Name: WZZM-DT
Network: ABC
City: Grand Rapids
Tower Location: N43 18' 35" W85 54'45" (Bridgeton / Muskegon)
Broadcast Power: 500 kW ERP
Broadcast Format: 720P
Broadcasting HD content: Y
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Channel: Digital 2, Analog 3
Name: WWMT-DT
Network: CBS
City: Kalamazoo
Tower Location: N42 37' 56" W85 32' 16" (Gun Lake / Wayland)
Broadcast Power: 6.9 kW ERP
Broadcast Format: 1080i
Broadcasting HD content: Y
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Channel: Digital 20, Analog 41
Name: WOTV-DT
Network: ABC
City: Battle Creek
Tower Location: N42 34' 15" W85 28' 7" ( Gun Lake / Wayland / Martin )
Broadcast Power: 270 kW ERP
Broadcast Format: 720P
Broadcasting HD content: Y
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Channel: Digital 44, Analog 43
Name: WZPX-DT
Network: PAX
City: Battle Creek
Tower Location: N42 40' 45" W85 3' 57" ( Hastings / Vermontville)
Broadcast Power: 212 kW ERP
Broadcast Format: 480i
Broadcasting HD content: No, Multicasting
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Channel: Digital 11, Analog 35
Name: WGVU-DT
Network: PBS
City: Grand Rapids
Tower Location: N42 57' 35" W85 53' 45" ( Allendale )
Broadcast Power: 50 kW ERP
Broadcast Format: ?
Broadcasting HD content: ?
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Here is a site that links to a lot of channel information, including the FCC filings, and maps for many broadcast towers:

http://www.michiguide.com/dials/west.html


This site has a lot of good info about local channels:
http://www.hdtvpub.com/
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For the southern portion of West Michigan you may want to look here in the South Bend, IN, thread. I've been trying to keep a list active there.

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The problem you will find is the antennas are all different directions. There's an antenna called Royal 17 that is cut for the channels in this area with multiple beams so you can aim it at each group. You can get those in area stores...it'll save you some work.
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WZZM-HD is currently broadcasting at 500kw which is half their licensed power of 1000kw.

The Royal 17 Antenna is cut for analog channels. It may work for digital if you point the 13 element towards Allendale and the 35 element toward Grant. But that takes away analof13 and 35.

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Here is an image I hacked together to show relative locations of several broadcast towers. I think the locations are somewhat close to what I have here, but I'm sure there is a pretty good margin of error.

I used one of the maps from the FCC site, then cut & pasted stars from the others.

(I had to shrink the image to fit within the forum's allowable image size.. I hope the names are still legible.)


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WGVU is broadcasting on 11. Checkout our thread here:
http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/showthread.php?s=&threadid=215579
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Another map of towers in the area, previously posted by Qyv10

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/attac...postid=1874041
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Yet another area map.. After checking out QVY10's maps, I used MS Streets to get a map of the region, then added the tower locations by hand.

This map covers a larger area, with GR, Kzoo, Mukegon, and Lansing. It currently only has the GR stations, but the Lansing stations could/should be added.

It's saved as a "PNG" image. Hopefully everyone's browser can handle those (I think any recent IE or Netscape/Mozilla browser should). JPEG munges up details, like text. PNG gives a well compressed, but still lossless image.

Note: I had to add the image to a zip file. Otherwise, the system will only accept images as large as 640x640.. Even though it's only 107Kb, it still rejects it.

 

west_mich.zip 106.5087890625k . file
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Updated report on reception:

The location is right on Gun Lake, so it's near several broadcast towers. But, they are all in vastly different directions, so I didn't know how various antennas would behave. The antennas we tried were: cheap rabbit ears, Terk TV55, Radio Shack Omnidirectional (flat disc antenna), and Radio Shack 15-2185 (has wings, like the ChannelMaster Stealthtenna).

The local channels, WOOD/WXMI/WWMT/WOTV, were easy to receive. Even the rabbit ears could get them at ~60% on the signal meter. The RS disc antenna was about the same as the rabbit ears. The 15-2185 got a stronger signal, but required pointing of the antenna to get the strongest signal for each station. The Terk TV55 got 3 of the 4 at 100%, and Fox at ~75%. We ended up keeping the Terk and returning the others. We mounted it on the of the chimney, about 25 feet in the air.

I got absolutely no signal reception on WZZM and WZPX with any of the antennas. But, we already got WOTV, so WZZM was not a big deal.

On WGVU, I didn't get any signal when I tried most of the time. But, after mounting the antenna on the chimney, I was getting 36-63% with no dropouts all night on Sunday. Monday morning it's not registering any signal again. I'm not sure if it's because of the weather, or if they don't broadcast during the day.


We watched the HD football game on CBS yesterday. The still shots looked good, but the motion scenes were terrible.. very blocky as if bandwidth constrained. The HD games on ABC and ESPN-HD looked very good.
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