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post #11581 of 11590 Old 12-15-2014, 04:20 PM
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I noticed that two stations got hit hard by the storm. Both KRON 4 and KTNC 42 were off the air. KRON is back after power was restored to their area of the city. KTNC, the last time I checked, was still off the air.
KRON 4 lost all power and had to go off the air after trying for a while to broadcast their interminable morning newscast using flashlights for lighting.

After that, the next day, it was their last day at that address, so now they have been pretty screwed up for the last few days. I like to watch the 4.3 subchannel, most specifically the reruns of "Married With Children", but when they came back on the air they had set the aspect ratio to 16:9 anamorphic stretch cropped 4:3...brilliant!

Hopefully they'll eventually get it together in the building, but given what a low-rent operation they became after losing the NBC affiliation, I'm not holding my breath...

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KRON 4 lost all power and had to go off the air after trying for a while to broadcast their interminable morning newscast using flashlights for lighting.

After that, the next day, it was their last day at that address, so now they have been pretty screwed up for the last few days.
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So KRON has made their move to 900 Front Street. I knew they were moving into the ABC Broadcast Center at 900 Front Street, taking over the third floor where KGO and KSFO radio were located. (The radio stations moved to the Cumulus facility on Hawthorn Street where KNBR, KFOG, etc. are located.) KRON is now using the former KGO-TV Studio 2 where channel 7 used to do local non-news productions.

I'll have to check out their news to see what their new set looks like.

I have noticed that they no longer have 24/7 news, weather, etc. on 4-2. They are airing an SD version of 4-1 now. Antenna TV is still on 4-3.

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Looks like the weather has hit K03HY, channel 3, on Mt. Tam. They've been off the air for several hours.

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Yes, you can assign markers to specific traces via the "Marker Trace" soft key. There's a brief explanation on page 2-81 of the user's manual as well as a brief mention at the top of page 2-78.
Thanks! So easy yet I didn't see it. Now is there any easy way to display the difference between say the marker on Trace1 and the marker on Trace 2? I don't see a way.


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Have you used Rigol's free Ultra Spectrum software? It allows you to capture a screen shot directly to your PC via the USB connection on the back of the SA, bypassing the need to PRINT a .bmp file to the flash drive, then moving that to the PC for further usage. I use it to capture the screen, then copy it to the clipboard, then into my image editing software for naming, editing, or I can drop it straight into an Excel or Word document.
I have not tried the software. I kind of try things on an as needed basis and I hadn't felt I needed that. The TV/analyzer and computer are located in different rooms in the house which make it more difficult.

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Looks like the weather has hit K03HY, channel 3, on Mt. Tam. They've been off the air for several hours.

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I can tell it's off the air as KCSO is back up to SNR 28 dB instead of the usual sitting on the cliff when I'm pointed at it. The KFTY transmitter is on the air but there is no programming. The TV says there is no signal to decode but the diagnostic screen shows a 24 dB SNR.

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Channel 3 is still off 24 hours later. Looks like it might be something serious to be off this long.

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Thanks! So easy yet I didn't see it. Now is there any easy way to display the difference between say the marker on Trace1 and the marker on Trace 2? I don't see a way.
I believe you'd have use the TRACE MATH function to accomplish something similar. I don't see a way to put individual markers of a DELTA or SPAN pair on separate traces (but I haven't tried, either)

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So KRON has made their move to 900 Front Street. I knew they were moving into the ABC Broadcast Center at 900 Front Street, taking over the third floor where KGO and KSFO radio were located. (The radio stations moved to the Cumulus facility on Hawthorn Street where KNBR, KFOG, etc. are located.) KRON is now using the former KGO-TV Studio 2 where channel 7 used to do local non-news productions.

I'll have to check out their news to see what their new set looks like.

I have noticed that they no longer have 24/7 news, weather, etc. on 4-2. They are airing an SD version of 4-1 now. Antenna TV is still on 4-3.

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Set right now looks over-lit, lit from below, and leaving
lots of reflections on their big screen monitors they pose
in front of, making it almost impossible to see what's on
the screen.

Channel 4.3 is now 480i anamorphic wide-screen
WITHOUT the anamorphic flag, the latest brilliant
advance in their multi-day request to keep their oldies
channel all screwed up. I can manually select an
anamorphic wide-screen display on my living-room
flat-screen, but my ChannelMaster CECB has no
option for aspect ratio for 480i channels without
the anamorphic flag. Channel 11.2 "Cozi TV"
broadcasts with the flag so can be viewed automatically
fine on any TV or device that respects the flag (they
show a wide-screen version of "Charlie's Angels" that
is a cropped version of the original 35mm film that's
pretty good visually).

Since my stupid living-room flat-screen TV does not
respect the flag, I'm sort of better off now with it for
these SD anamorphic wide-screen channels, because
I can just set the SD channels to "full" or whatever and
mostly get what I need. Very short-sighted of the FCC
(have these words ever been spoken?) not to require all
TVs to respect an anamorphic (or zoom) flag for SD
channels.

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Channel 4.3 is now 480i anamorphic wide-screen WITHOUT the anamorphic flag, the latest brilliant
advance in their multi-day request to keep their oldies channel all screwed up.
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It's interesting how different model TVs react so differently from each other. My 6 year old Sony does a great job of adjusting the width of the picture. As channel 11.2 changes, it follows. On KOFY there are both 4:3 and 16:9 sub-channels and other stations have varying widths and it adjusts properly. It adjusts 60-3 to wide screen, for example, but leaves 60-2 4:3. My Panasonic, a newer TV by three years, doesn't make the changes as required and I'm constantly having to use the "WIDTH" button to make the picture the right size. Several programs that are 480i are in a 16:9 format now, but not all stations are sending out the pictures that way. Some stations are sending out the 16:9 pictures in 4:3 format, so it's the opposite of the stretched problem and everyone is skinny, but at least I can make an adjustment and make it the right size. The ones that drive me crazy are the pictures that are stretched wide when they should be 4:3. There's no way to reduce the 16:9 to 4:3.

I also have the problem occasionally when I get an on-screen note advising that the size cannot be adjusted for this channel. What? Why not?

I hope that some day all of the stations will send out their programming in the proper size and that all TVs follow along and show the programming in the proper size, but I'm not holding my breath.

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Set right now looks over-lit, lit from below, and leaving
lots of reflections on their big screen monitors they pose
in front of, making it almost impossible to see what's on
the screen.

Channel 4.3 is now 480i anamorphic wide-screen
WITHOUT the anamorphic flag, the latest brilliant
advance in their multi-day request to keep their oldies
channel all screwed up.
Since my stupid living-room flat-screen TV does not
respect the flag, I'm sort of better off now with it for
these SD anamorphic wide-screen channels, because
I can just set the SD channels to "full" or whatever and
mostly get what I need.
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I fixed the KRON 4-3 problem by re-scanning, and now seems ok.
But for the last 2 days, "Sanford and Son" was not set right.
Expanded on one tv, and squished on another.
I never need to adjust those settings, ... so KRON screwed up.

Speaking of screw ups, K03HY is still off the air, and has been dumped with my re-scan.

KNTV aka ... NBC bay area, NBC/3, Newschannel11, ... has a problem of news anchors walking off the 4 x 3 view area.
Looks like s****t watching on a tube tv. But what do you expect from KNTV ?
Hey KNTV, .. tons & tons of tube tvs still working!
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