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Old 05-27-2015, 11:48 PM
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That form doesn't allow you to search by date. You need to know the station. This one does:

http://licensing.fcc.gov/prod/cdbs/p...d/app_sear.htm

As of 10pm PDT KEMO is not showing up.

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Chuck you are correct on the site. I had two browsers open and pasted the wrong url.
Here is the application: It showed up last night.
0000001594302-DTVEKEMO-TV34440DDACCEPTED FOR FILING05/27/2015Info | LMApplication
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I did find this about early San Francisco TV, way too much detail to all be right and too much to read just once.
http://www.uhftelevision.com/articles/kqec.html
And this about KCSM dropping MHz. 7 days a week 6PM for two hours and 12 Noon Sat and Sun for two hours I am now tied to watching MHz streaming.
KCSM-TV discontinues MHz programming, citing FCC regulations Current.org
http://current.org/2014/07/kcsm-tv-d...c-regulations/

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Interesting reading. Thanks for the links.

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Interesting reading. Thanks for the links.

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Interesting reading for sure but it gives you a headache trying to follow. I am "just" able to try and understand how KCSM, KMTP and KQED came about.

I am not really disagreeing with your description of how KCSM on Bruno ceased to be and I might have been the person to put the parts together to generate the phrase "were thrown off San Bruno by KNTV".

I just wonder if the rates for KCSM and KNTV using the tower would be the same and were then raised when it was realized that KNTV wanted to move North and how long the requirement for a 10 years lease had been in effect. For many years I am guessing that it was. Out bid perhaps might be a better term. Plus CSM wanted to stop spending money on KCSM and still does and the new owner is now paying some of the expenses. KCSM was playing chicken with the FCC during the period of no analog signal on RF 60 but they got by, spent less money and did not get hurt.

The link sure gives lots of examples of stations being "Dark" for long periods

One thing I discovered about companies is:

1) Any one who knows what is going on is prohibited by law to not disclose anything. CEO, CFO, BOD and so on. Martha Stewart is an example.

2) The rest of the world cannot find out the real story so they make ones up.

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When it was announced that KQCA will soon start broadcasting Estrella on 58.3 both Larry and I wondered what was going to happen to KTNC since they cover the Sacramento market with Estrella. I did a little research into KTNC and I found they were purchased two years ago by a group who's stated purpose was to buy up under performing stations and sell them in the auction next year. If the auction occurs as scheduled, it would appear that KTNC will only be around for another year or so. The FCC says that auctioned stations who plan to shut down (not move or channel share) have 3 months after the auction to do so.

This would explain Estrella showing up on KQCA and why KTNC has filed no applications to move to Sutro Tower. I suppose this will open up the possibility for some other station to move to channel 14 on Sutro Tower.

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I did a little research into KTNC and I found they were purchased two years ago by a group who's stated purpose was to buy up under performing stations and sell them in the auction next year.

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I wonder how many other stations around here are in the same position? I've heard rumors about three, but nothing positive.

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I wonder how many other stations around here are in the same position? I've heard rumors about three, but nothing positive.

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KCNS is owned by the same group as KTNC so I guess you can count on that one going. Then we all know about KCSM. Do you think there are others? KMTP maybe?

I'm not aware of any in the Sacramento market. We don't have any "extra" stations. All our stations are major networks which seem unlikely auction participants.

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Edit: Add KTLN to the list.

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KMTP maybe?
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Edit: Add KTLN to the list.
KMTP, a station that's only income is from Cable Companies for their programming.

They had great plans a few years ago for "World Channel" (VC 32.2) and perhaps "WTV" (VC 32.4) but those streams are blank and have been for a long time.

They already have gone POP (KPOP VC 32.6).

Perhaps they were sold years ago and that's the reason for the non appearance of the "World Channel".

I could say more but the fun has gone out of bashing them.

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KCNS is owned by the same group as KTNC so I guess you can count on that one going. Then we all know about KCSM. Do you think there are others? KMTP maybe?

I'm not aware of any in the Sacramento market. We don't have any "extra" stations. All our stations are major networks which seem unlikely auction participants.

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Edit: Add KTLN to the list.
Hmmm... I hadn't heard about KCNS or KTLN. The ones that I heard the rumors about were KCSM and two low powers, KMMC and KAXT. It's going to be very interesting to see what actually happens at the auction! There might be some surprises.

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