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Did anyone else hear that KOFY is shutting down operation due to selling out in the auction?

First I've heard of this but it wouldn't surprise me.

I wonder how many stations are going to low VHF? I just heard another one going that way. This could be a benefit for you if your stations don't get kicked off the air. OTA viewers are going to need a low VHF antenna.

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The FCC has unanimously approved ATSC 3.0!

Details are in this article from "TV Technology":

http://www.tvtechnology.com/atsc3/00...atsc-30/280420

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Did anyone else hear that KOFY is shutting down operation due to selling out in the auction? Does anyone have a good contact number for them. Perhaps they would want to be carried on a LPTV station to be able to maintain must-carriage rights. I tried calling their main switch board, but no one answers.
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This is the first I've heard of this! Wow! That's not one of the stations I suspected of going off the air. It's a sad state of affairs, though, when no one answers the main switchboard number.

Maybe we're in for some other big surprises when the FCC releases the new station assignment list.

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not suprised at all.

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This is the first I've heard of this! Wow! That's not one of the stations I suspected of going off the air. It's a sad state of affairs, though, when no one answers the main switchboard number.

Maybe we're in for some other big surprises when the FCC releases the new station assignment list.

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KOFY was the last of two stations owned by Granite Broadcasting (well what was left of Granite..) This station wasn't making money at all. Barely any staff. Since the demise of WB, KOFY had been struggling. I was working there when the WB went away. Granite was in the throws of bankruptcy and never really made it back.
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The FCC has unanimously approved ATSC 3.0!

Details are in this article from "TV Technology":

http://www.tvtechnology.com/atsc3/00...atsc-30/280420

If I understand this (emphasis on "if") the vote allows broadcasters to get started but that official rules for ATSC 3.0 broadcasting are yet to be adopted. There's a window for feedback on the NPRM after which the commission may make changes. This is some months down the road. After that the new rules will be published in the Federal Register and become official.

Corrections/clarifications welcome.

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Are these the stations we think are going off in the Bay Area? More?

KAXT
KOFY
KMTP
KCSM
KTLN
KTNC

Moving:

KRCB to low VHF
KRON
KCNS
KTVU
KBCW

What about KTSF and KFSF?

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KOFY was the last of two stations owned by Granite Broadcasting (well what was left of Granite..) This station wasn't making money at all. Barely any staff. Since the demise of WB, KOFY had been struggling. I was working there when the WB went away. Granite was in the throws of bankruptcy and never really made it back.
If you take a close look at KOFY you do not see anything that is the KOFY brand, just four (4) sub streams that can be hosted by any station, and have been in the past.

We need to build a list by sub-streams going off the air and moving to other host stations. The status of the transmitter channel going off the air or being repacked may not be of any use.

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If I understand this (emphasis on "if") the vote allows broadcasters to get started but that official rules for ATSC 3.0 broadcasting are yet to be adopted. There's a window for feedback on the NPRM after which the commission may make changes. This is some months down the road. After that the new rules will be published in the Federal Register and become official.

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You are correct, except that this does not allow broadcasters to start anything. This reflects the proposed rules for ATSC 3.0; after a Report and Order adopts the rules at a later meeting, after publication in the Federal Register, then broadcasters can deploy ATSC 3.0.

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If I understand this (emphasis on "if") the vote allows broadcasters to get started but that official rules for ATSC 3.0 broadcasting are yet to be adopted. There's a window for feedback on the NPRM after which the commission may make changes. This is some months down the road. After that the new rules will be published in the Federal Register and become official.

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The way I understand it, they approved ATSC 3.0 even though it's not fully established as to how it's going to be received, so that stations could implement it when doing the modification work necessary for the post auction changes. They can do all the work at once and not do one and then have to go back and do the other.

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The way I understand it, they approved ATSC 3.0 even though it's not fully established as to how it's going to be received, so that stations could implement it when doing the modification work necessary for the post auction changes. They can do all the work at once and not do one and then have to go back and do the other.

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Hi Larry,


Have you ever seen a Roku Streaming stick for $49 or a an Amazon Fire TV Stick for $39.99 or a Chromcase Stick for $35? Within about two years you will be able to buy an ATSC 3.0 stick to hook to your TV for a similar price.


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I noticed that KEFM-LP's move from the Sutter Buttes to east of Sacramento was accepted for filing today. This makes me think that there were no full power stations allocated for Channel 6 in the Sacramento area. So maybe the theory that KRCB could have moved to channel 5 still holds and that KEFM-LP would not cause it a problem if KRCB was on channel 5.
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What's the strategy behind this? Why is an LPTV analog station applying for a move at this stage of the game?

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What's the strategy behind this? Why is an LPTV analog station applying for a move at this stage of the game?

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Rent on the Sutter Buttes is higher, and the Sutter Buttes is farther away from Sacramento. They would be increasing coverage over the Sacramento area and reducing rent. Also, they could move their Redding channel 6 to backfill and increase coverage over Chico. Also, LPTV stations will soon start filing for displacement channels, and so now is the time to maximize coverage.
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Rent on the Sutter Buttes is higher, and the Sutter Buttes is farther away from Sacramento. They would be increasing coverage over the Sacramento area and reducing rent. Also, they could move their Redding channel 6 to backfill and increase coverage over Chico. Also, LPTV stations will soon start filing for displacement channels, and so now is the time to maximize coverage.

Is the next step for them to convert to digital? It seems like a waste of time moving an analog station.

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A couple of tidbits after reviewing Trip's list of "What we know."

KRON owned by Nexstar is Not Sold.
KPIX and KBCW owned by CBS Corp are Not Sold.

The stations still could move or be repacked.

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A couple of tidbits after reviewing Trip's list of "What we know."

KRON owned by Nexstar is Not Sold.
Read carefully. Stations that were owned by Nexstar before the merger were not sold. Stations that were owned by Media-General before the merger raised $479 million.

So we don't actually know what's happening with KRON yet.

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A couple of tidbits after reviewing Trip's list of "What we know."

KRON owned by Nexstar is Not Sold.
KPIX and KBCW owned by CBS Corp are Not Sold.

The stations still could move or be repacked.

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I'm sort of surprised that KRON didn't sell out. Since they lost NBC affiliation, there's not much to watch on there besides local news/weather, old reruns and infomercials. Do they still make money?

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Read carefully. Stations that were owned by Nexstar before the merger were not sold. Stations that were owned by Media-General before the merger raised $479 million.

So we don't actually know what's happening with KRON yet.

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I see. I just saw KRON listed as a Nexstar station. I didn't know they were a Media-General station.

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KRON was owned by Young, who merged with Media-General, who merged with LIN, who was bought out by Nexstar. Simple, right?

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