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It also shows that WSB will be dropping power from the current 100 kW to 869 kW. I wonder if that will prove detrimental to those of us in problem signal areas.
IIRC, the changes, once completed, are supposed to result in no more than a 2% increase in homes that cannot receive the signal reliably.
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It also shows that WSB will be dropping power from the current 100 kW to 869 kW. I wonder if that will prove detrimental to those of us in problem signal areas.

Also WPCH is moving from channel 20 to 31
WUPA from 43 to 36
and WUVG from 48 to 18

We may see more changes as stations respond with their new data to NAB
Supposedly the new power levels are determined by the Dipole Factor and are supposed to basically match the current coverage area. However I do share the same concerns for fringe viewers or those who attempt to use an indoor antenna. Hopefully this will not indeed prove detrimental.I wish they could have just allowed most of the upper UHF stations to remain 1000kw as many are now, but the FCC has their own formula. But apparently there may be an appeal process for stations who may face problematic signal issues.
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IIRC, the changes, once completed, are supposed to result in no more than a 2% increase in homes that cannot receive the signal reliably.
We will see how that prediction proves out. During the analog to digital transition, WSB lost more homes than had been predicted and had to build several translators to fill some of the gaps.
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We will see how that prediction proves out. During the analog to digital transition, WSB lost more homes than had been predicted and had to build several translators to fill some of the gaps.
Living in Cumming (Forsyth County) I actually get a better signal from WSB's repeater station from Gainesville. I have the choice of two antenna sources for WSB and I'm a bit closer to Gainesville with less obstruction than to Atlanta. Quite a few homes have their antennas pointed towards Gainesville in my area to get both WSB and the repeater station for WUVG. As well Daystar broadcasts from that direction.

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It also shows that WSB will be dropping power from the current 100 kW to 869 kW. I wonder if that will prove detrimental to those of us in problem signal areas.

Also WPCH is moving from channel 20 to 31
WUPA from 43 to 36
and WUVG from 48 to 18

We may see more changes as stations respond with their new data to NAB
Here in Athens I receive two of the three WSB transmitters (31 & 39) with 31 strength much higher (believe they installed that transmitter near Monroe in order to overcome the shadow cast by Stone Mountain for 39). So will be interesting to see what happens to WSB 31 when WPCH moves to that channel.
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I'm surprised WSB-31 is still on the air given that WPXA moved to 31 a few years ago.

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I'm surprised WSB-31 is still on the air given that WPXA moved to 31 a few years ago.

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Trip, I was thinking WPXA had a three lobed antenna pattern and that the Athens area was in one of the nulls. The transmitter is located way north of Atlanta proper and Atlanta is covered by one of those lobes.
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Trip, I was thinking WPXA had a three lobed antenna pattern and that the Athens area was in one of the nulls. The transmitter is located way north of Atlanta proper and Atlanta is covered by one of those lobes.
Here's a nice visual of WPXA versus WSB-31. There's a significant area of overlap.

https://www.rabbitears.info/contour....extras=1365627

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Here in Athens I receive two of the three WSB transmitters (31 & 39) with 31 strength much higher (believe they installed that transmitter near Monroe in order to overcome the shadow cast by Stone Mountain for 39). So will be interesting to see what happens to WSB 31 when WPCH moves to that channel.
In several markets including Atlanta and Charlotte, Cox has several translators to support the fringe areas of their primary signal such as WSB and WSOC. But with the repack reducing the broadcast spectrum, there may not be room for all of these translators to remain on the air. That remains to be seen, but could be an issue for fringe area reception.
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With the news mentioned earlier that ME TV is leaving WSB for a new home at WGTA in Toccoa, does anyone have any idea of what will be replacing it on 2.2? Someone earlier mentioned Decades Channel, but I have not seen anything concrete about that...and if Decades did move from 69.2 to 2.2, I wonder what would replace it on WUPA?
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TV Guide listings are showing Retro TV coming back to WSB to replace ME TV.
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It looks like the meTV switch to WGTA is now Monday

From the meTV website:

Atlanta - WGTA (launching 3-27-17) (Over the air) 32.1
Atlanta - DIRECTV (launching 3-27-17) 32
Atlanta - DISH (launching 3-27-17) 32
Atlanta - AT&T U-verse (launching 3-27-17) 32
Atlanta - Spectrum (launching 3-27-17) 186 / 12
Atlanta - Comcast (launching 3-27-17) 17 / 98
Atlanta - Truvista (launching 3-27-17) 14
Atlanta - Windstream (Teleview) (launching 3-27-17) 96



Also my DVR+ guide is showing Escape on 2.2 starting 3/27. With that what happens to 34.4 which is now Escape ?
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Can anyone see channel 8-8 on WGTV? If so, what's on it?

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Can anyone see channel 8-8 on WGTV? If so, what's on it?

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Las Vegas odds makers are betting it's for EAS.

Will the last subscriber leaving Dish Network please turn off the satellite.
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Can anyone see channel 8-8 on WGTV? If so, what's on it?

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Just audio. Black screen with voices.
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Just audio. Black screen with voices.
Interesting. Any idea what the audio could be? Is it GPB Radio by chance or something else?

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It looks like the meTV switch to WGTA is now Monday
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Also my DVR+ guide is showing Escape on 2.2 starting 3/27. With that what happens to 34.4 which is now Escape ?
My TV Guide App is still showing Retro on 2.2 but the programming matches Escape. Guess we will find out for sure on Monday.
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Interesting. Any idea what the audio could be? Is it GPB Radio by chance or something else?

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Sounds exactly like 88.5 FM on my radio. Same audio feed on both at the same time. Must be GPB 88.5 FM.

So how does a radio feed also wind up on a VHF sub-channel?
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Las Vegas odds makers are betting it's for EAS.
My TIVO DVR won't display anything for 8-8, but on a "regular" TV tuner it is simply an audio channel of GPB radio...i.e. Morning Edition, All Things Considered etc.
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Sounds exactly like 88.5 FM on my radio. Same audio feed on both at the same time. Must be GPB 88.5 FM.

So how does a radio feed also wind up on a VHF sub-channel?
As far as I know any digital broadcaster can split their "bit budget" on any arrangement of video, audio only etc channels. Channel 32 (WANN, RF 29) has a bunch of Atlanta radio audio sub-channels. As with the GPB channel 8-8, I can't get any of those audio only channels to play on my Tivo DVR, whereas on a regular TV tuner they are all there.
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As far as I know any digital broadcaster can split their "bit budget" on any arrangement of video, audio only etc channels. Channel 32 (WANN, RF 29) has a bunch of Atlanta radio audio sub-channels. As with the GPB channel 8-8, I can't get any of those audio only channels to play on my Tivo DVR, whereas on a regular TV tuner they are all there.
Same here - none of these "audio"channels are on my DVR. They all show up on my TV tuners.
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As far as I know any digital broadcaster can split their "bit budget" on any arrangement of video, audio only etc channels. Channel 32 (WANN, RF 29) has a bunch of Atlanta radio audio sub-channels. As with the GPB channel 8-8, I can't get any of those audio only channels to play on my Tivo DVR, whereas on a regular TV tuner they are all there.
Numerous tv stations piggyback a radio signal on a sub-channel, and that sub takes very little of the total megabytes available to the host station.
My question now would be, does any Atlanta viewer have access to providing Trip with a TSR reading of WGTV.

Will the last subscriber leaving Dish Network please turn off the satellite.

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Numerous tv stations piggyback a radio signal on a sub-channel, and that sub takes very little of the total megabytes available to the host station.
My question now would be, does any Atlanta viewer have access to providing Trip with a TSR reading of WGTV.
I already had data in-hand, thus how I knew it was there.

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Atlanta Updates as of 3-27-17
METV will be on WGTV 32.1
MOVIES! on 32.4
Decades on 32.3

As of now 32.1 is WANN. WGTV is mixing up the RF with channels we see when we change them. WGTV is 24.1.
My info comes from METV and it clearly shows the "Channel" as being on WGTV 32.1
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metv.com/atlanta-tune-in-updates

They did update some of the other channels.

I would also say that if there is a problem after a few days of changes google Clark Howard and email him.
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Las Vegas odds makers are betting it's for EAS.
Yes, 8.8 is playing their radio station (WGPB I think).
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As of 9am Atlanta time 2.2 Escape is 1/2 Frame or Black Bar TV (BBTV)

Escape on 34.4 is Full Frame. So now we have 2 Escape Channels and Zero for METV.
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Looks like WGTA missed the flipping of the switch....as of 10:30 they are still showing H&I on 32.1 (32 on Dish) but WSB has gone to Escape right on que @ 9am. Odd that both 34.4 and 2.2 are showing Escape. I for one will miss H&I.
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As of 9am Atlanta time 2.2 Escape is 1/2 Frame or Black Bar TV (BBTV)

Escape on 34.4 is Full Frame. So now we have 2 Escape Channels and Zero for METV.
Yeah, too bad about losing MeTV from the Atlanta market. And here in Athens I am in a dead zone for the transmitter located in Toccoa that MeTV moved too. On the TVfool coverage maps here is a shadow line cast by one of the mountains that runs straight down to Athens.

Will be interesting to compare the bit rates the two Escape channels are running at.
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As of 9am Atlanta time 2.2 Escape is 1/2 Frame or Black Bar TV (BBTV)

Escape on 34.4 is Full Frame. So now we have 2 Escape Channels and Zero for METV.
How many "Hidden Mysteries Revealed in the FBI Files Escaping Through the Woods For 40 Years Doggedly Pursued On the Edge of Town By Retired Cop" can one take...?
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