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post #841 of 6509 Old 09-23-2004, 08:57 AM
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Did any of you watch Law and Order last night? Did you get that purpleish band (filter, for lack of a better word) across the top of the screen? Due to my TV I have 0% overscan so I was always worried about getting weird stuff on the top or bottom of the picture and last night was the first time it has really happened to me.
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Nope, but I caught CSI:NY last night. Came through almost perfect, with just a few pops here and there. Looked beautiful and the DD5.1 was flawless.

CSI:LV on tonight, hope it's the same.

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Any of you guys catch lost last night? I downloaded the HDTV rip this morning and was pretty impressed as it was pretty good, I heard the video and sound were really nice, the rip is nice but nowhere near real HD and there was no way I was going to watch this in SD.... its really sad when a HDTV (compressed) rip is better than live SD.
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Anybody else catch Lost? Got most of it off of KTRK on the HD-TiVo. Only an occasional drop out. The sound was pretty d@mn good. Because of the story, the show might only be good for one season, but at least I'm looking forward to next Wednesday.

Yep, ABC definitely does DD 5.1 the best.
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Anybody else catch Lost? Got most of it off of KTRK on the HD-TiVo.

I hope I can find it on the Tivo, otherwise I guess it will just be "lost".
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Ok, here's are weekly HD football rundown:

Thur 9/23
Miami @ Houston - 6:30 ESPN-HD

Sat 9/25
Vanderbilt @ Navy - 12:30 HDNet
Alabama @ Arkansas - 2:30 KBTX-DT
Penn St @ Wisconsin - 4:45 ESPN-HD

Sun 9/26
Bears @ Vikings - 12:00 ST
Eagles @ Lions - 12:00 ST, KRIV-DT
Cardinals @ Falcons - 12:00 ST
Browns @ Giants - 12:00 ST
Texans @ Chiefs - 12:00 ST, KBTX-DT
Packers @ Colts - 3:00 ST, KRIV-DT
49ers @ Seahawks - 3:00 ST
Chargers @ Broncos - 3:00 ST
Buccaneers @ Raiders - 7:30 ESPN-HD

Mon
Cowboys @ Deadskins - 8:00 KTRK-HD

There's a chance to see the Cowboys and Texans both in HD this weekend.
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Ok, here's are weekly HD football rundown:

Thur 9/23
Miami @ Houston - 6:30 ESPN-HD


Sun 9/26
Texans @ Chiefs - 12:00 ST, KBTX-DT
There's a chance to see the Cowboys and Texans both in HD this weekend.

Man, the Texans are going to be tired after Sunday!!
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Man, the Texans are going to be tired after Sunday!!

My bad:

Miami @ Cougar High - 6:30 ESPN-HD
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My bad:

Miami @ Cougar High - 6:30 ESPN-HD

Why the F*vck would espn want this bludgening of a game?
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Mizzou and Troy State would have been a better match up. Who would have thunk it?
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Posted this on another site, thought I'd share it here. According to KBTX's sister station in Waco, there is a chance KBTX could be added to D* the 27th this month. However, they aren't for certain, and of course, it was supposed to be added earlier this summer.
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Strong rumor has it that all our locals will be up on 9/28.

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=32047

Plus a CSR told one of my friends who just got D* that locals would be up by the end of the month.

That specifically is one of the reasons I've moved back to B/CS - to hopefully guarantee that my distant feeds grandfather in.
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lol, nice new sig.
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Well, according to this post, KWKT-DT, KYLE's parent station, is available on TWC in Temple/Killeen. A later post also indicates that they're possibly doing the NFL in HD today. I wonder if KYLE-DT is anywhere close to being added to the local Cox HD lineup.
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Well, according to this post, KWKT-DT, KYLE's parent station, is available on TWC in Temple/Killeen. A later post also indicates that they're possibly doing the NFL in HD today. I wonder if KYLE-DT is anywhere close to being added to the local Cox HD lineup.

If that happens, will you become a Cox salesman??
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Looks like locals on D* will not be coming tomorrow (on indefinite hold). Then again, these were never officially announced either. I guess this is why D* doesn't announce stuff until it actually happens...

http://www.dbstalk.com/showthread.php?t=32047
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Got some news concerning KYLE-DT today. This is the most optimistic response I've ever received.

KYLE's splicer
KWKT/KYLE is in negotiations with FOX in regards to whether they'll supply a splicer for KYLE. Without it, no HD, and they cannot purchase one without FOX's authorization.

KYLE and Cox
KWKT is exploring getting the KWKT-DT signal to Bryan so that Cox could carry it. Since there is no requirement that Cox carry KWKT (KYLE is the Bryan FOX station), they strongly suggested viewer requests for FOX-HD to Cox.

They also mentioned that they would do whatever they could to serve viewer interest within the limits of their FCC authorization.
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MNF is coming in good tonight!
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Correct me if Im wrong but wasnt fox "giving" out the splicers? I may need to shoot off a PM to foxeng on the HDTV board and see if he knows more. I would love to get fox here locally, then we could just work on ABC and NBC

We still should take up an "increase the power" fund for KYLE
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MNF is coming in good tonight!

Yup, so far so good here, too, only a couple of minor breakups. I hope reception is this good Wed. night for "Lost".
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We still should take up an "increase the power" fund for KYLE

Won't do us much good if they still aren't passing HD.
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KYLE's splicer
KWKT/KYLE is in negotiations with FOX in regards to whether they'll supply a splicer for KYLE. Without it, no HD, and they cannot purchase one without FOX's authorization.

Translation: We're screwed. For one thing, if they are just in negotiations, it will probably be a long time to get one from FOX after everyone else is taken care of, and I bet KYLE/KWKT doesn't have the resources to just buy one "off the shelf". Besides, I was told some time back that KYLE would probably get HD before KWKT, and what happened to that?

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KYLE and Cox
KWKT is exploring getting the KWKT-DT signal to Bryan so that Cox could carry it. Since there is no requirement that Cox carry KWKT (KYLE is the Bryan FOX station), they strongly suggested viewer requests for FOX-HD to Cox.

And who among us will that help? What we need is to pester them to do what is inevitable and bring their station up to speed and quit jerking us around with their light-bulb powered station.

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They also mentioned that they would do whatever they could to serve viewer interest within the limits of their FCC authorization.

Is that why, even though they are passing HD in Waco/Temple, KWKT is still broadcasting at the same power as KYLE, so nobody can get it unless they have cable?
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Man, you guys are brutal. I just said that the latest news is better than the past. The last time they responded to me, they said HD would not happen until the digital transition end. At least (or at least they're telling me), they are trying to get a splicer for KYLE and trying to provide FOX-HD to the area (albeit via Cox). The power issue is a non-issue until they're at least doing HD. Hopefully, they will be leniant with waivers for CSers such as mwesson.

BTW, I only experienced three breakups during the game tonight, and I think Roy Williams was responsible for two of them.
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Forgot to mention, that was one impresive triple quote breakdown Sid!
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I sent an e-mail yesterday to KWKT begging (yes, literally, begging) for them to give me a waiver with the promise that I'd drop it once they started broadcasting KYLE-DT at a power level that I could receive.

Not that I expected anything different, but their reply was:

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"I sincerely wish that I could give you a waiver for FOX HD feeds on direct TV, but since the FCC rules regarding Satellite waivers do not differentiate between Analog and Digital television, a waiver would also apply to the KYLE-TV analog broadcast signal and subject us to fairness litigation from other Direct TV viewers.

By policy since we have been notified by Direct TV that they are beginning local-into-local service in the Waco-Bryan market for KWKT FOX44 within 30 days, we must decline all waiver requests within our area of dominant influence from this point in time on to be fair to all Direct TV viewers. "

I thought it was pretty interesting that D* has told them they are going up in lil within 30 days. I don't know when they received that notification, but hopefully the postponement of locals here isn't moving past that 30 days.
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...subject us to fairness litigation from other Direct TV viewers...

I find this hard to believe since the other D* HD users in the area will be getting FOX-HD via the Houston O&O route.

In regards to the splicer, is it possible that FOX only provided one splicer per DMA? And since we live in this jacked up tri-city 90 mile DMA, we're now sol. I'm interested in hearing what foxeng has to say jag.
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Yeah I was going to ask him sometime today.... Because we really are in a grey area.

I honestly wouldnt be suprised if KYLE doesnt even know they can possibly get the splicer free.
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If any of you care heres the response from foxeng.... whoever has the inside contact with KYLE should send this to him.....

First off FOX isn't selling the splicers. They are sending them to stations free of charge. The equipment remains property of FOX though. The splicer is a properity based device. The only way you can get one is through FOX.

The only requirement for a station to receive a splicer is to be providing a 720p stream to plug into the splicer, nothing else. The 720p stream doesn't even have to have true HD on it, it can be 480 upconverted to 720 24/7. I do know that FOX is trying to get as many on line as quickly as possible and it will more than likely take until first of the year to make that happen for all of the affiliates who are eligible.

FOX owns several low power stations (mine being one of them) and we received our splicer so power level has nothing to do with it. If the station doesn't have a 720p stream up and running FOX will not ship one. It is that simple.
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What I have a hard time understanding is if FOX supplies the splicers, which we already knew they do, why didn't KYLE get one the same time KWKT did, since the installers were already in the area? Unless there is a limit per DMA of some sort for now? I wonder just what is involved with supplying the 720p stream they are talking about.
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I got some clarification:

Network FOX considers KYLE to be a satellite/translator station of KWKT that just simulcasts. However, the FCC considers KYLE to be a full power FOX affiliate. Until they get the designation changed with FOX, KYLE is not eligible for a splicer.

I guess this is just another wonderful nuance of the translator/low power DMA we reside in.
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