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post #91 of 6509 Old 05-04-2004, 09:06 AM - Thread Starter
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I don't know if we would be able to get the NBC national feed with our "grandfathered" waivers. I think we might just have to wait and see if the feed comes on, and if it doesn't, we'll be sol. I'm pretty sure if you drop the distant networks, you won't be able to get them back without moving back to CS and doing the waiver thing again. In the past when I changed addresses in town and tried to get other networks, they made be do the entire waiver process again. That's why I kept mine ($4 bucks and all).

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I'm relatively confident that as long as you have a "waiver" to receive a national network feed, when and/or if that feed becomes HD you will get it. IF D* starts passing along an NBC HD feed, we'll get it. (Note that's a big if.)

My worry is that if I lose the distant network feed by moving, that I won't be able to get it back. Although I wonder why I think that given that no one has had a problem getting one from NBC before that they would start rejecting them in the future...
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NBC shouldn't be a problem, but I've heard of people in the area being turned down by ABC recently.
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I am still getting NBC E/W even after "moving", but I rather doubt that qualifies me for a national HD feed if it happens. I hope I am wrong, but I am not counting on it.
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It qualifies you. If you were eligible for CBS E/W you would be receiving CBS HD over D* as we speak.
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I was thinking, once CS gets locals this summer on D*, getting an NBC waiver will be a problem.
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Arguably the two shouldn't have anything to do with one another. You can either receive the signal or you can't. But DirecTV's distant channel database currently says that we receive an "A grade" signal from NBC - so I understand how the politics might actually come into play.
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In case you guys didn't see this in "programming" - A guy listened in on D*'s 1Q financial conference call and found out the following - which I found very interesting given our conversations about moving...

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1) D*TV's plans for the next 12-24 months include a migration to HD LOCAL stations (rather than analog), first in the top 30 markets in 2005, then more with the 2006 new sat. D*TV seems to feel that locals in HD would be a big competitive advantage, especially to those with little or no HD locals now via OTA - also the feeds would be more reliable than OTA.

2) D*TV plans to grow HDTV in 2004 after the new locals on 7S are all turned on. Their 8S (2Q 2005) and 9S (2Q 2006) sats will allow D*TV to expand their HDTV channel offerings to "well beyond what anyone else will have to offer", according to Eddy Hartenstein (CEO). He also stated that "unlike some other content providers, we will add quality content, not just HD for the sake of saying something is in HD. We will be the HD leader for many years to come." He added that "the timing of HDTV channel offering expansion beginning in July-Nov 2004, along with much more in 2005, ties into the anticipated new content that will become available".

3) FOX HD will be the first new offering, both for national feeds "much like we did CBS", as well as for their 6 weekly NFL Ticket games starting in September. In addition, "other channels will be rolled out between July 1 and the end of the year".

What I take to mean for us...

A) If you "live" in Houston - they are likely to have their locals in HD in 2005 over D*.

B) In the short run... if you "live" in Houston, their Fox station is an O&O so my understanding is that you'll get the Fox HD feed sometime this summer.

C) This is all very good news for D* subscribers interested in HD.
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Sounds pretty good. I wonder what B/CS's market rank is. Isn't it around 90 or so?
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Waco/Temple/Bryan is #94

Houston is #11
Dallas/Ft. Worth is #7
San Antonion is #37
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I "moved" this afternoon with no problems. I think the guy knew exactly what I was doing but obviously didn't care. Very helpful.

FYI... the CSR did cancel my distant network feeds. However, he said that if I returned to College Station within 180 days, they could return my distants without going through the waiver process. After that 180 days is up, there is no guarantee - my guess is that it would depend which CSR you got. I thought it was a good fact to know.

I realize that some of you have already done this and that this experience is solely a joy of mine at this point. However, I needed to wait until a certain period of time had expired because I didn't want to change anything with DirecTV for fear of losing a priceless item (well, maybe not priceless - but certainly at least worth $999).

So, realizing that it is mainly my joy, does anyone want to share a big fat middle finger to Cox Cable and their $20/month broadcast cable package?
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I understand your joy. I too was a bit nervous when I called D* too. They really don't care.

One day I too will have the priceless item you have, but probably not until Christmas. Did you get to keep it?
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Somewhat surprisingly, yes.
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At no charge? That would be so wonderful.
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...but certainly at least worth $999)...

Have you looked on ebay lately? Definitely worth at least $999.

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So, realizing that it is mainly my joy, does anyone want to share a big fat middle finger to Cox Cable and their $20/month broadcast cable package?

I was even happier when I got DSL and dropped their high speed internet which required a cable subscription I didn't want.

Sucks you lost the distant feeds. I guess Labmansid and I got lucky.
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I see where ESPNHD has added a couple of College World Series games to its schedule. I know our chances aren't that good this year (unless Meyer and Jackson could pitch every other day), but I can dream, right?
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Hey, I will gladly join in your "salute" as a goodbye to Cox!! I cut the cord last summer, and don't miss it. Regardless of what Cox claims, there are alternatives to their HS Internet (and the requisite basic cable). That is the first I have heard about switching back within 180 days without having to apply for waivers again.
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Ive been off COX for about a year now.... but its funny though because the basic cable was never disconnected so we still get the locals (even though theyre not HD) its nice to have a backup when Im not getting the HD from Houston.....

Verizon DSL owns COX cable so bad its not even funny and the base level top60 from dish will suffice for now till I decide what sat service to change to when its time to upgrade.... Its gonna be upgrade to VOOM or dish, I may go after BEV or whatever the canadians sat service is because they offer all the networks in HD now so I wouldnt have to bother with the wavier process.
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Man, I was nervous enough moving to Houston, let us know how Canada is!!
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Looks like Cox is going to finally offer HD. I doubt I'll be dropping D*, but at least there will be more people asking for HD in the area.

http://www.cox.com/inetmacincludes/HDTV/
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The same day I get my tower up they go and announce this. Oh well, I'll get at least a month of use out of it. Great find Dave, any ideas on what channels they'll be carrying?
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Hey, I guess that's good news for those of you living in town. I wonder what channels they will offer, whether there will be any networks offered.
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It doesn't really mention much. I guess we'll just have to wait and see what they offer.
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There is mention of some premium channels and possibly Discovery HD( at additional cost), but I have to wonder if there would be any HD networks due to carriage restrictions. In other words I'm not sure if they could offer any of the Houston HD networks, but KCEN might be possible.
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For West Texas they offer Discovery, Showtime, HBO, INHD1&2, ESPN, and CBS. I don't know if any other locals in those areas are in HD. I guess they could maybe offer KAMU, KBTX, KYLE, KCEN?, and the Houston ABC? here. This is so funny when you think that we all gave Cox that big salute the other day. I don't want to go back to Cox. But if they offer baseball on INHD, it is going to tempt me.
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I doubt they can get any of the Houston HDs channels since that's not our market.

InHD would be nice, but it may be coming to D*. Ken H seems to think it's possible. Guess we'll know more once 7s is ready to go.
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I don't want to go back to Cox. But if they offer baseball on INHD, it is going to tempt me.

Don't give in to the Dark Side, Luke!!
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I just thought that maybe they could offer the Houston ABC since they offer it now. Here's some links for West Texas pricing and channel lineup:

http://www.cox.com/WestTexas/HDTV/pricing.asp

http://www.cox.com/WestTexas/HDTV/programming.asp
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elspankdog, if you had known this earlier would my back still be hurting now???
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Cox: I'm am your father

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