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Why is WRAL showing it in HD?
I don't know. Are they using ESPN's feed?
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Why is WRAL showing it in HD?
WECT will be in HD too. The ACC network / RAYCOM has the first rights.
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WECT will be in HD too. The ACC network / RAYCOM has the first rights.
yeah, that's what I thought. WMYA/WLOS carries it in HD too.
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yeah, that's what I thought. WMYA/WLOS carries it in HD too.
I wonder how much more expensive it is for a station to get a HD feed from Raycom than to get a SD feed from ESPN. I guess the stations have to consider their budgets and how appealing ACC basketball will be in their markets.

Some markets may not care that much about the ACC.
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What are you talking about? No one is simulcasting ESPN. It's two different productions.
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What are you talking about? No one is simulcasting ESPN. It's two different productions.

Foxeng said something about WITN not being able to have the game in HD because ESPN had reserved the HD rights for itself. I interpreted that as meaning that a local station could contract to have ESPN's broadcast appear in standard definition on one of the station's subchannels, and then the standard definition broadcast would be available OTA but would probably be blacked out on the cable systems.

Maybe I misinterpreted what Foxeng was saying.
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I wonder how much more expensive it is for a station to get a HD feed from Raycom than to get a SD feed from ESPN. I guess the stations have to consider their budgets and how appealing ACC basketball will be in their markets.

Some markets may not care that much about the ACC.
RAYCOM MEDIA runs the ACC network. They send the games to an affiliate in every ACC market. They can take the HD feed and use it.

ESPN has their own cameras and crew. It will also be in HD because Raycom does not do the blackouts anymore like they used to enforce. I do not know why... ESPN always carries the second game of Duke and Carolina. There is a great demand. The ACC network does not cover the nation.
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The local stations show the production of ACC Network/Raycom Sports. WITN is airing it in SD but other stations are airing it in HD. Either Foxeng is wrong or there's a bunch of stations in violation of contract.
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I think Foxeng meant that the ESPN would only be in SD because of the Raycom blackout, but that is not in effect any longer.
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Concessions were made by both sides to keep Raycom and ESPN in the ACC contract simultaneously. John Swofford sort of sold out the ACC to keep Raycom on board. ESPN could have done it all themselves, as they did with the SEC network but Swofford wasn't having any of that.

I'm guessing that dropping the local ESPN blackouts was a concession by Raycom and the ACC in those negotiations.
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I think Foxeng meant that the ESPN would only be in SD because of the Raycom blackout, but that is not in effect any longer.
I don't watch cable TV much, but I always thought that if a local station had the rights (separate from ESPN) to show a game, then on the local cable system, ESPN would be the one to be blacked out.

Why would anyone choose to watch something in SD if it is available in HD?
Frankly, blackout rules are confusing, and ESPN has way too much power.
I guess public universities figure they are saving the taxpayers money by getting big bucks from ESPN for TV rights, but how much of that money goes to anything worthwhile?
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RAYCOM MEDIA runs the ACC network. They send the games to an affiliate in every ACC market. ...
OK, so you're talking about a network of broadcast stations, right? (And those stations are available both OTA and on MVPDs.) The ACC network is not like the Big Ten Network, which is a cable network.
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John Swofford sort of sold out the ACC to keep Raycom on board.
What do you mean by "sold out"? The ACC doesn't care who they get the money from as long as they get the money, right? The ACC's job is just to negotiate the best deal it can on behalf of the universities. And whether OTA viewers get to see the games is probably of no importance as long as the big bucks are coming in.
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The ACC didn't get the best deal. The commish took a lesser deal to keep Raycom on board. This isn't really the place to discuss it, but google it if you're interested in more. It's an interesting read.
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OK, then. If ESPN is not responsible for WITN not showing the game in HD, could it be that the station simply thinks that NBC's regular programming will get higher ratings than the Battle of the Blues?
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If a station uses the ESPN feed, ESPN usually only allows SD for OTA. If another vender is providing a feed, then it is whatever the contract states between the two venders. I have no idea what that is or why one station would have a SD feed and another station would have a HD feed.

We air the ACC football games and we get them in HD. We do not take basketball so I don't know how that is done.

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I wish WCTI still had the coverage. WITN doesn't seem to think sports is more important than junk NBC programs.
Well you could be up here in NE NC where if you don't have Time Warner you don't get some games at all because the VA stations think a rerun of some bad CW Network show is better than the game.
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If the game is on ESPN, ESPN will only allow an OTA SD. There is your fail.
That is not a correct statement. Both ESPN and ACC Network always have rights to this game. It can be in SD or HD.
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Well you could be up here in NE NC where if you don't have Time Warner you don't get some games at all because the VA stations think a rerun of some bad CW Network show is better than the game.
This is just another example of the need to get rid of these ridiculous "Market Boundary" lines. And WITN sticks to them like glue, as do most because the viewers do not count.
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Well you could be up here in NE NC where if you don't have Time Warner you don't get some games at all because the VA stations think a rerun of some bad CW Network show is better than the game.
Oh, those Virginians have such a Cavalier attitude toward North Carolina traditions.
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If a station uses the ESPN feed, ESPN usually only allows SD for OTA. If another vender is providing a feed, then it is whatever the contract states between the two venders. I have no idea what that is or why one station would have a SD feed and another station would have a HD feed.

We air the ACC football games and we get them in HD. We do not take basketball so I don't know how that is done.
Blame SD on the limited number of network preemptions given to affiliates. ACC stations all get the same feed, and some choose to put it on their main channel while others play it safe with the network.
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WCTI had a reporter out in town with an analog thermometer this AM. Couldn't really tell where, but I think it was Piney Green Rd and NC 24.
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I agree. Also, in the summer season this station usually reads cooler than most of Jacksonville and surrounding inland areas as well.
This morning, it's 10 degrees warmer in town than it is at the river station. The water is affecting the instruments.
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Anyone know what the COMING SOON is that WNCT is showing?

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Anyone know what the COMING SOON is that WNCT is showing?
Where do you see it?
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