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Thanks. Whether HD or not, that puts WMBD/WYZZ as the only mid-market newscast, to my knowledge, still broadcasting in 4:3. I have my fingers crossed that this will change for WMBD by the end of the year. Though I bet there's going to be some hubbing involved. I'm just hoping it's not a total farm-out of their newscast. I know Nexstar has recently opened a news hub in Memphis.
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2 recent FCC rulings:

https://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/fcc-votes-to-prevent-joint-retransmission-negotiations_b118328

https://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/fcc-votes-to-ban-joint-service-agreements_b118336

I love it how the republicans slammed their decision to restrict JSA's. Over the past few years, and plenty of times, I've seen people blame the democrats for the loose FCC rules, just because they were forged during the days of the Clinton Administration. I sure hope many of those same people are paying attention to what is happening now.

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As someone whos worked at both wmbd and week it makes me laugh to see you arm chair station managers complain... ya station management cares mostly about money thats why they haven't upgraded to hd..but you guys realize its not its the flip of a switch to go from sd to hd...also these stations don't make nearly as much as you think they do.
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As someone whos worked at both wmbd and week it makes me laugh to see you arm chair station managers complain... ya station management cares mostly about money thats why they haven't upgraded to hd..but you guys realize its not its the flip of a switch to go from sd to hd...also these stations don't make nearly as much as you think they do.
Are you Mark DeSantis incognito? I know mid-market stations don't make a ton of cash, and I know it cost 1~2 million easily, mere pocket change compared to what Nexstar shells out to buy more and more stations. My point is Peoria is one of the very few mid-sized markets that lacks a single station with an HD newscast. There are several markets even smaller and poorer than Peoria with at least one, and in some cases, 3 independent news operations broadcasting in HD.

Quincy Newspapers originally wanted to control WHOI once they get WEEK, but Sinclair announces they will break terminate the JSA within 9 months of WEEK's ownership transfer to Quincy Newspapers. Seems to me, as I have been suspecting for quite some time, Sinclair is wanting to revamp either the WHOI or WYZZ studios for their own independent news operation. WEEK will likely upgrade to HD within a year after being acquired by Quincy Newspapers. All other Quincy stations are broadcasting local news in HD from what I can tell. And hopefully this will light a fire under Nexstar to upgrade WMBD, but I have a sneaking suspicion WMBD's local news will eventually be farmed out to WCIA. If they weren't giving up, I would think they would have at least made the push to digital widescreen by now. Even KHQA has been broadcasting in digital widescreen.

It seems all I get on here are excuses for the poorest stations in the nation to continue their poor status. Look beyond Peoria and one can see how atypical it is for a market the size of Peoria to not have a single station fully transformed this late in time. Yes, it's 2014 for crying out loud. Wake up Peoria! Sure, Granite has no money, but there's no excuse for Nexstar's neglect of WMBD.
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any word on if the CW will ever get an HD version in Peoria? My parents still can only get Supernatural in SD.
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any word on if the CW will ever get an HD version in Peoria? My parents still can only get Supernatural in SD.
The CW has been HD for quite a while. 720p just like ABC/WHOI. There is technology to broadcast two HD channels on a single broadcast channel. So, the CW is in HD when using an antenna with a digital tuner or HD TV.

If they are on cable, then it depends on their subscription package and which cable box that they have. #907 is the CW HD and ABC/WHOI is #908 You will obviously need an HD box (extra charge) If they are using the simple adapters with a channel 3 output, then everything is SD.

Of course, the picture quality can suffer with rate-shaping due to low bitrate causing artifacts during high motion scenes.

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The CW has been HD for quite a while. 720p just like ABC/WHOI. There is technology to broadcast two HD channels on a single broadcast channel. So, the CW is in HD when using an antenna with a digital tuner or HD TV.

If they are on cable, then it depends on their subscription package and which cable box that they have. #907 is the CW HD and ABC/WHOI is #908 You will obviously need an HD box (extra charge) If they are using the simple adapters with a channel 3 output, then everything is SD.

Of course, the picture quality can suffer with rate-shaping due to low bitrate causing artifacts during high motion scenes.
Thanks I'll double check with them. I see they are recording it on 907 (on their Tivo) so maybe I'm mistaken. I know they had that issue for a long time, that CW was in letterboxed SD.
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While the broadcast is 16:9 HD, not all of the programming is, especially on reruns.

When you say "letterboxed" that indicates bars on the top and bottom, (but not the sides) which is the way a 16:9 image should be displayed on a 4:3 TV, or a theatrical movie would show on any kind of TV.

If you mean "windowboxed, (bars on all 4 sides of the image) then something has probably been flagged incorrectly and you need to use a "zoom" function on the TV or Tivo. This will often happen with a 4:3 show, broadcast on an HD channel, but viewed on a 4:3 TV.

A 4:3 content show should be displayed with bars on the sides (but not top and bottom) on a 16:9 TV (called Pillarboxed)

So there are a lot of variables involved. Type of TV, Type of Tivo, zoom settings of TV and Tivo, setup of TV and Tivo, format of content (of the particular show). A rerun of Supernatural played from an old tape might be 4:3 but a new network feed should be 16:9, but a delayed new episode might have been recorded as 4:3 and flagged and displayed incorrectly. AND the cable company can further alter the aspect ratio or flag it incorrectly when they re-transmit the station creating an image that cannot be displayed correctly on anything.

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Peoria viewers pulling in Springfield, Campaign, Quad Cities

Anyone in Peoria able to pull in signals from Springfield, Champaign or Quad Cities? According to the FCC, I could do it with the right antenna:

FCC maps: http://transition.fcc.gov/mb/engineering/dtvmaps/

Potential antenna: http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp?p=DB8E&ss=258800
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Well, this morning, I'm getting the QC stations but not Springfield. Ch 20 is detected on a scan but gets no image. Tonight, that could change, or even reverse.

If you click on the "Gain/Loss Map" link, you'll get a better idea of what is possible. Using 61614 or 61615 will give more station options than 61604 for some reason.

I don't have any experience with that antenna but I'm using a simple Philips flat, amplified indoor/outdoor antenna on a mast above my old VHF antenna. It picks up from front and back so it works for my location where the QC is about 180 degrees from East Peoria. I've used a Channel Master CM 4221 and the "All Channel" VHF antenna (with and without preamps) but this relatively ($30-$50) cheap antenna works better. There are newer versions an similar designs out there.

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