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Just to give folks a heads up.

While talking to ABB, they told me that Channel 97 Analog or WHVL will be moving to Ch 2 analog in March.

I'm assuming it's digital counterpart will remain where it's at 83.2.

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Just to give folks a heads up.

While talking to ABB, they told me that Channel 97 Analog or WHVL will be moving to Ch 2 analog in March.

I'm assuming it's digital counterpart will remain where it's at 83.2.
Meanwhile, they still can't figure out why they keep hemorrhaging TV customers. They're offering people Hyundai TV service at Lexus prices.

Continuing analog cable in 2015 is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.
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Meanwhile, they still can't figure out why they keep hemorrhaging TV customers. They're offering people Hyundai TV service at Lexus prices.



Continuing analog cable in 2015 is rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic.

That's being unfair ... To Hyundai.
Sadly, the cable industry is focused on Internet service and treating the TV side as a rapidly fading portion of the overall business. The crazy thing to me is that ABB would have far more bandwidth to allocate to Internet services if they dropped the analog channels.

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I don't get Atlantic Broadband logic on this at all. They're worried about offending older, poorer customers by forcing boxes on them, while these more price sensitive customers are very inclined to try satellite.

And at the other end, you have the higher end customers who aren't satisfied with the offerings, and run to satellite.

Even the bottom of the barrel cable operators have more than Atlantic Broadband. Even Mediacom and Suddenlink, largely regarded as terrible operations, have been all digital throughout their footprint for a few years and can boast at least 100 HD channels.

I lived in Cumberland with ABB for years, and that lineup was infinitely superior to Altoona/Johnstown. But it still isn't competitive, and it's still got 20+ HD channels on Altoona/Johnstown.

But they're missing down there tons of common channels in HD.
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Just to get folks a heads up, Antenna TV has added WATM to the affiliates list.

http://antennatv.tv/interactive-affiliate-map/

It has Cable Channels listed as "Coming Soon" so hopefully that's a good sign that ABB is going to at least carry it.

I try not to get my hopes up because WJAC was supposedly talking to ABB to carry GRIT and I have yet to see that channel carried either.

EDIT: It looks at this rate, it may take almost 2 months to add the channel like it did for This. Looking at Page 103 and 104 it took from Feb 26 to Apr 16th for the channel to be on ABB.

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Just wanted to share a funny link with the folks here:

While doing some random Google searching I found an article on WTAE about This.

http://www.wtae.com/tv/about/WTAE-TV...sburgh/7765958

I just found it odd in that article that WTAE is making it sound like they are the ones who supply Johnstown with This instead of WATM.
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They need to dump Yootoo America its a waste of bandwidth. If they want their .2 on ABB there are many good channels available...Movies!, GetTV, RTV, Escape, Bounce, etc. I think WWCP can put a .4 on since the main feed is 720....lets hope they do!
I for one like youtoo america for I find some interesting shows on there. Besides, how many subchannels does one need showing retro programming? We have metv and now antennatv which basically show the same type of programming. So if WHVL gets rid of Youtooamerica I will be disappointed and I know others as well. Plus how many retro channels does one need? You can find most of that stuff online or streaming channels. The stuff they air on YoutooAmerica not so much. So if you ask me the RTV and Bounce would be ridiculous for the Altoona-Johnstown market to get. Now I would not mind if WTAJ would do a subchannel at least with a CW. I do not like having a CW from Pittsburgh as it sometimes goes under contract disputes with my satellite provider. I would not mind a CW or a CW+ on like 10.2. However, I do not see that happening.
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Will be a long time before they can ever encrypt them all (Limited Basic in specific), as they refuse to ever shut off Limited Basic analog for any area, which makes them non "all-digital" per the FCC.<br><br>
Though I still wonder how long cable will last as an "philosophy", it just seems like it's getting more and more expensive, more and more boring, and doesn't really compete against on-demand type services like Netflix, Hulu, Amazon Prime, etc.<br><br>
I still think most folks who really pay expensive cable really only care about sports, possibly HBO, otherwise I just see folks resorting to methods like iTunes and just buying episodes.</div>
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My neighbor could no longer afford cable so I gave her my spare indoor amplified antenna I paid $8.00 for at big lots to use and she picks up the four nets plus WKBS, MeTV &amp; THIS. She is a widow and was very happy to have free TV. She went several months without any TV because she thought OTA was long gone. Great feeling to help someone out. <img alt="smile.gif" class="bbcode_smiley" src="http://files.avsforum.com/images/smilies/smile.gif">
Cable will be here for quite some time for many reasons. I am not saying I like cable but seriously the stream tv is not a solution for cable. I have a streaming device and subscribe to Netflix, but with DSL there is a better chance of something interfering with the show then if it was on satellite or cable. Not to mention I have Huluplus but not a fan of the so called ads that just show up random. Plus most people I know do not want to try and search and search for a show that they think they will like. Sure I search for shows on my satellite but it is much easier then searching on the roku I have.
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I for one like youtoo america for I find some interesting shows on there. Besides, how many subchannels does one need showing retro programming? We have metv and now antennatv which basically show the same type of programming. So if WHVL gets rid of Youtooamerica I will be disappointed and I know others as well. Plus how many retro channels does one need? You can find most of that stuff online or streaming channels. The stuff they air on YoutooAmerica not so much. So if you ask me the RTV and Bounce would be ridiculous for the Altoona-Johnstown market to get. Now I would not mind if WTAJ would do a subchannel at least with a CW. I do not like having a CW from Pittsburgh as it sometimes goes under contract disputes with my satellite provider. I would not mind a CW or a CW+ on like 10.2. However, I do not see that happening.
I see what you mean. I mean obviously everybody has different taste in programming.

Though you can only get so many shows online or DVD, that's why I can't wait for Antenna TV to be carried on ABB. They are going to air some shows that I guess the studios did not feel like making DVDs for.

Me-TV is nice and I am glad they air Carol Burnett & Friends but sorry to say, Antenna TV airs way more of myself, family, and friends liking. Also it doesn't appear that WATM is like WJAC where they enjoy putting school closing banners on This, which I hope they apply the same logic to Antenna TV.

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Cable will be here for quite some time for many reasons. I am not saying I like cable but seriously the stream tv is not a solution for cable. I have a streaming device and subscribe to Netflix, but with DSL there is a better chance of something interfering with the show then if it was on satellite or cable. Not to mention I have Huluplus but not a fan of the so called ads that just show up random. Plus most people I know do not want to try and search and search for a show that they think they will like. Sure I search for shows on my satellite but it is much easier then searching on the roku I have.
I totally agree also. In my case living inside the city of Johnstown, it seems almost impossible to get every local station as I swear their transmitters are thrown all over the area instead of something centralized like bigger cities.

So if I don't have at least the Limited Basic package from Atlantic Broadband, I am limited to strictly WJAC, Me-TV, and GRIT. That's not quite enough programming for me, LoL.
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Just to give folks a heads up, I got some further info from WATM.

They have stated that ABB does definitely plan on carrying it, as it was already assumed by most, but now it's confirmed.

It was asked of the local cable co's that they get the channel up by the 4/1/15 official launch date.

They stated ABB is mainly trying to figure out the logistics of adding the channel such as channel assignment and launch date.

Doesn't surprise me at all since ABB has so many channels smashed in being they want to keep analog service going.

I have a feeling moving Channel 97 is part of the plan of covering it or it's one strange coincidence.

EDIT: Comcast has already added ATV to Ch 198. Still don't see any proof that ABB has even a channel setup yet.

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Just a random update.

Looks like it's 100% confirmed now that ABB will add Antenna TV yet no clue on GRIT.

ABB is listed as "Coming Soon" on Antenna TV's website.

Just glad it's confirmed as it felt only like a rumor as ABB corporate didn't seem to tell Customer Service it's going to be added and WATM didn't sound 100% sure at first since ABB stated they had to figure out logistics.
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Just an update for folks.

ABB has moved Ch 97 WHVL to Ch 2.

Although for whatever reason it's still on Ch 97 and now Ch 2 so we actually have two WHVLs.

Still waiting on Antenna TV and GRIT plus more HDs that ABB is claiming our area is going to get. They will not state exact dates for anything or what the new channels will be.
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