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post #1171 of 6821 Old 05-21-2003, 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Barry Lieberman
Does anyone have any information about Comcasts plans to offer HD over cable. They've done it in Maryland!

They don't expect to make any announcements until the current upgrade to their system is finished. They anticipate it should be about 95% complete by the end of this year.
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Here's the latest from WPTV's engineer, as of noon today:

Mark,
The cards have made it to Atlanta today. We are also having automation
software issues with our Master Control switcher, the latest update came in
today. We want to have the HD on the air as quickly, and cleanly as
possible. We also have some encoder gear back at the manufacturer, and
still waiting for it to come back. I wish I could paint a firm date for
everyone, but I am at the mercy of other folks to perform so we can perform
our jobs. A lot of folks are now saying they can pick us up, and we have
not done much of anything to adjust the signal...I still suspect older
generation boxes, but we do have the manufacturer looking at the stream...so
far all is clean.
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They should borrow another system (called a loaner) and try it out.

Problem is why do you fall back on "older generation boxes" statements.

If the system is a standard data stream, there should not be any problems.
Why can the "older" boxers not have a problem getting 4-1, 7-1, 10-1, 29-1, etc
Yet have problems with 55-1 and / or 5-1 ????????????????

Maybe the Canadians have a different language ????????????

Did you ever ask to get a loaner while your equipment is being fixed?
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Last Tuesday (5/20), 'NYPD Blue', while indicating DD 5.1 on the receiver, came through on the front L and R speakers only. No center. No rear. This program has in the past had excellent 5.1 and the episode was a season ending new one. (Which, by the way, started with quite graphic naked maple-syrup-pouring sex and ended with the life threatening shooting of one of the leading characters. Details upon request.)

Same thing -- audio, not sex or shooting -- for the Thursday (5/22) basketball game, which had an on-screen 5.1 announcement.

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In today's Miami Herald Business Section, WTVJ (NBC) said they are placing a digital antenna in Hallandale Beach which should be functioning in a few weeks. The article points out the soon to be seen expansion of HDTV.

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Thanks for the info, David. I was wondering what WTVJ was up to lately. Hopefully, they won't experience too many problems when they finally go live with their digital signal considering how long we've had to wait.
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The article can be found here.

Pretty good except for grinch-like comments from Telemundo.
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That is because Telemundo does not see any plans for HD in their programming!

I hope NBC (WTVJ) consults with CBS on their equipment, so the process will takes a shorter time to complete. If they use the same equipment and are in the same area, they can share back up equipment and have a lower maintenace costs.

Now, if they consult with WPB ch 55, they may not get the station up by Sept.
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Originally posted by aviators99
The article can be found here.

Pretty good except for grinch-like comments from Telemundo.

Incidently, the President and GM of WTVJ was just last week named Chief Operating Officer of Telemundo, which is owned by NBC.

I have no idea what this might portend for HDTV at either station. Probably not much if anything. The given reason is to boost Telemundo's ratings versus leading Spanish network Univision.

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Originally posted by George33027

Now, if they consult with WPB ch 55, they may not get the station up by Sept.

OUCH! Well, I supposed someone has to be the industry leader in the "worst HDTV rollout" category. I'm sure in 5 years they will all look back and laugh at this at NBC in West Palm Beach.

I don't think it is so much that they can't seem to get their signal out that makes it a disaster for the public. What makes it a disaster is their PR approach of blaming it on the viewers and their boxes.

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You think they are smart enough to laugh?
They will read what you wrote and see NBC Industry Leader.
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What will WTVJ-DT channel assignment be so we can start watching for them?
Hopefully then we can forget about the NBC palm beach debacle.

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31-1.

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I wonder which station will be the first to broadcast HD from the NBC network, WTVJ or WPTV?
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I bet 55-1 will broadcast HD first, but only a handful of people with reasonably stable signals will be able to tell.

I just had a bit of interaction with DTV 6 and posted their (positive) response in the WPB thread.
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To get off the NBC subject for a minute...

Has anyone else noticed audio only coming in on 2-8?

I started picking this up on my Sammy T-151 this weekend. First the audio was absolutely horrid, scratchy staticy, etc. but yesterday it was cleaned up a little.

I can't tell exactly what it is they're broadcasting, but it sounds like a simulcast of something. Maybe the engineers are just testing something...who knows.

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I've been in touch with them and they've just installed something called a statistical multiplexer. As far as I can tell, it's having a very negative effect on the HD broadcasts on 2-1, but they told me they're still tweaking their settings. My Samsung SIR-T150 cannot "see" the audio-only stream on 2-8, though it is able to lock onto the signal perfectly. My SIR-T165 has no problem with the audio stream, however.
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I thought someone had posted something about 2-8 on here. It shows up as Dolby Digital 2 channel stereo on my unit (audio only of course). I have heard some pretty clean music playing on this channel, but not this past weekend. I thought that I read (somewhere/here?) it was going to be a music channel (why?).
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After 4 months of not having channel 2-1 it did come back on for a week now today i lost 2-1. Has any other person on here lose 2-1 over the weeknd!
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Rudy1 -

As far as your question regarding the NBC HD broadcasting, I found on "antennaweb.org" the listing of each channel which does not have a "live" date for WPTV but for WTVJ it is slated to go "live" June 10, 2003. So finally I might get some HD content out of NBC (at least digital).

Take care.

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Eddy13, others claim they were experimenting this weekend. At some points during the weekend, my Zenith 1080 box showed 2-1, 2-2, 2-3 and 2-8. Other times it showed those plus 18-3, 18-4 and 18-8. Now it's back to just the "2's". You might have to rescan to get them.

jjmcgraw, I actually heard from NBC6 yesterday and their people said their target date for going live is June 30, though they will begin testing next week. See his complete feedback on the WPB thread.
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I wasn't able to get anything at all from WPBT-DT last night.

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WPTV DT 55 UPDATE:
First, I want to thank all of you for your emails and posts and phone calls. We hear you loud and clear. We have been devoting our time to the details of working on the signal, as opposed to answering emails or posting updates. I will work harder to let you dedicated bunch know what frustrations we are going thru in order to get the best signal out. Its not a blame game, its what is happening. We contracted with a company back in August 2002 to install and test our HD path equipment. We are still waiting on parts to come in that should of been part of the original order and included options on the equipment.
The encoder, a Tandberg 5821, supplies the SMPTE signal to our NuComm STL equipment, the 310 comes out and feeds our Axcera transmitter. The transmitter was proofed in January, and retested in February...all parameters meet spec. The NuComm equipment was installed in November, it "appears" to be working as it is getting a 310 signal to the transmitter, and the transmitter is happy with it. During startup, we attempted to look at the stream coming out to the transmitter, it was at this point we realized the company did not provide the unit with a 310 input, only ASI, there fore we could not look at the stream there. We could look at it at the studio going into the NuComm equipment, as it takes ASI. It meets spec. We have been waiting for about 6 weeks now to have the Streamtracker returned with the 310 upgrade cards...the cards arrived on my desk this morning...they were to be delivered to Atlanta for install/testing. Once we get this unit back, now promised as "sometime next week" we can look at the stream inbound from the STL before it hits the transmitter to look for errors. We may be chasing something in the STL in the way it converts the ASI to 310, although NuComm tested the equipment and says it is meeting spec. If this is clean, we will once again have the transmitter looked into. We are also investigating why 1st gen Rx's may be having this problem with reception, even though it is hard for many of you to comprehend that this may just be an issue. We are also working on the HD frame sync cards to pass thru NBC HD, we were told these were in Atlanta last week, and we would have them. Today we learned, they are still in test in Canada, and hopefully "sometime next week" as we were told, they will arrive in West Palm. If anyone has noticed, we have also begun dismantle of our 1962 Dresser Ideco tower in Lantana and hope to have it fully down in the next 2 weeks. We also have 1 more wrap around 2 way platform to install at the 500' level on the new tower. We will chat again soon. Dave

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Thanks for the update, Dave and good luck!

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I'm not surprised at the delays in getting these issues resolved, considering how many different manufacturers they're having to deal with. What a mess! You'd think that some company would've come up with a total "HDTV solution" for TV stations, but I guess that wouldn't be practical from a manufacturing standpoint.
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Yes, it's almost like building your own car from parts purchased from auto manufacturers and Pep Boys!

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Outstanding.
Thank you for a report of facts. It is very much appreciated.

Just a point, remember when you fixed the power amp, then all of us 1st gen Rx's had no problems receiving 55-1, Then it went to 5-1 and problems.

Again keep up the good work. I think you have too many people in the loop.
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George --

Not quite. I, for one, -- and I believe there are others -- have never received a signal on 55, much less a picture on 55-1.

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Originally posted by George33027
Outstanding.
Just a point, remember when you fixed the power amp, then all of us 1st gen Rx's had no problems receiving 55-1

I don't know why you'd make such a general statement. Besides, it is absolutely false.
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WPTV:
Maybe with all that hardware getting stuck in Atlanta you should watch some of your commercials and get Brown involved.

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