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by the way Tivo FINALLY has guide listings. It only took 3 weeks from the day I sent in the ticket to Tivo
And mine still shows "Title not available". Do I somehow need to force it to do an update?
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And mine still shows "Title not available". Do I somehow need to force it to do an update?
yeah do a force update. Mine updated this morning (I think it ran around 9:30 this morning). Gave me a message of channel update. Added KBMD-LD7
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Which brings up some other questions. I am doing what isn't recommended, specifically using an outdoor antenna inside the attic area above my attached garage. With that in mind, do any certain antennas work out better than others inside?
An outdoor antenna inside will give better results than a indoor antenna indoors While its not the best option (you lose up to 50% of signal depending on what type of roof, shingles, etc) for some folks its the only option
I had my outdoor antenna (HBU33 then 2 separate ones) in my walk in closet in my apartment for 3 years.

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Since two of our ATSC channels are still VHF, both 9 & 11, I have to be mindful of that.
If it aint broke (as in the reception is fine) why bother monkeying with it? Unless you have some other reason. From someone who like to tinker I found out once I got optimal reception across the board (all the full power stations maxed out and the LP's especially 43 to the best it will be) I left it now.

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Also, are any certain amplifiers better than others? I assume that there are some that are better than others, but how do I determine what would be the best choices for me?
I use an old (discontinued) Radio Shack one mainly because of the 2 outputs. I also have used an RCA one available at Fleet Farm, Menards, etc and that has worked well too. It has 2 inputs so if you want you can use separate antennas but will accept a combo (VHF/UHF) fine. One drawback for me? Only one output
http://www.rcaantennas.net/search/?sku=TVPRAMP1R
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I have seen some antennas that allow them to be pointed in two different directions. I am tempted to try one of the Xtreme Signal HDTV HDB8X antennas.

http://www.solidsignal.com/pview.asp...source=inhouse
not worth it IMO. I have one (well part of one....1/2 got damaged in a storm). Anywho I bought one to try and aim one panel at Mpls and one at St Cloud (for 41) and as soon as you start moving the panels so they are at 2 different directions the signal quality went to pot. Both panels aimed the same way it worked great but trying 2 different markets only works really if they are 25-30 miles away

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Also, has anybody here tried combining two antennas? I seem to recall reading that it is tricky. I don't recall what needs to be done to effectively combine the inputs of two different antennas.
yup done that too. When 43 came online and they had power issues I would combine my XG91 clone (from Solid Signal) and my existing HBU33 together. I used a splitter backwards. The cable lengths MUST BE THE EXACT SAME LENGTH or it wont work. It really didnt give me the results I wanted. If I recall the antennas have to be the same model, aimed the same way and be a specific distance apart. Honestly the only reason someone would do that would be if you lived way outside the coverage area or needed the extra oomph to get a signal due to blockage (mountains, etc)
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Oh and yeah I am a hoarder of TV antennas Currently stored in various spots around the apartment
-HBU33 (mounted outside)
-1/2 of the SS 8 bay that you linked to
-Eagle Aspen 2 bay UHF only
-AntennaCraft V5-7-13 VHF only antenna
-part of AntennaCraft V5-7-13 (only has 3 of 5 elements...2 got damaged in storm...or moving...something like that)
-AntennaCraft C490 in the box (12 1/2 foot long VHF Low/Hi/UHF). Got it from Radio Shack when they went out of business....think I paid like $5 for it
-Winegard HBU44 (12 foot VHF HI/UHF)...Got from another Radio Shack same time...paid like $3 for that one
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With the announcement at CES 2017 of the Mohu Wireless HD antenna, is this something that would interest you? I think that it might be handy for some people to be able to place their antenna somewhere that receives OTA signals well and then send that content to devices around their home. Although this appears to be designed for indoor use, via wifi, I might also be interest in a version designed for outdoor use and also having the ability to connect via Ethernet (CAT 5).



https://www.engadget.com/2017/01/04/...utting-simple/
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March 1st "Chuck Norris TV" errr Grit is leaving. Being replaced with the new Sinclair/MGM station "Charge!"

http://thecw23.com/features/charge-tv

Charge! is the all-new network television home for action & adventure content from MGM's library. This includes movies such as the Rocky & James Bond franchises.

This channel will be available over-the-air on 23.3 and on Comcast cable channel 211 in St. Paul and channel 253 in Minneapolis as of March 1, 2017
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It also looks like TBD-TV is replacing GET on 23.4 on March 1st. So there will be 2 new diginets on WUCW. So it looks like GRIT and GET will be gone from the Twins Cities OTA market, starting March 1st.
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Personally I would prefer American Sports Network instead of TBD
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Personally I would prefer American Sports Network instead of TBD
TBD TV seems stupid and shallow... What is it, youtube for people without the Internet? Really???
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HDCP In The Minneapolis-Saint Paul DMA

What content is HDCP protected in the Minneapolis Saint Paul DMA?
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TBD TV seems stupid and shallow... What is it, youtube for people without the Internet? Really???
sounds like it
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What content is HDCP protected in the Minneapolis Saint Paul DMA?
Nothing OTA AFAIK, don't know AFA pay TV as I don't have it.
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What content is HDCP protected in the Minneapolis Saint Paul DMA?
depends on the provider...nothing OTA is
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That is good to know. The reason I ask is because I am considering another Slingbox. It looks like both the Slingbox 500 and the Slingbox M2 are available. For the life of me, I can't really tell why the Slingbox 500 is $200 more than the Slingbox M2. It doesn't look to me like it really offers much more.
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looks like 2/28 6AM is when Charge (23-3) and TBD (23-4) arrive in MSP (per zap2it)
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Now lets see how long it takes Tivo to update things
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Now lets see how long it takes Tivo to update things
since its just a guide change hopefully WUCW sends the info

edit: zap2it already shows the changeover. Rovi/tvguide does not (but then again they still dont have the Bemidji State hockey games next weekend in the guide yet either)
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This could be an Uncle Honkey question, but certainly all are welcome to reply. Knowing what you know now, based on the experience you have in the Minneapolis Saint Paul DMA, what antenna(s) would you buy today? I guess one of the important things is that we are mostly RF UHF channels, plus RF 9 & 11, which are VHF. I am most interested in antennas designed for outside use, but certainly some use external antennas inside. I have one in the attic area above my attached garage.
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I have this antenna in my attic and it works well not only on UHF but VHF high.
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0...?ie=UTF8&psc=1
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It's also important to remember that more stations may be moving to VHF as part of the spectrum auction. It won't be publicly announced which stations are moving until April.
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It's also important to remember that more stations may be moving to VHF as part of the spectrum auction. It won't be publicly announced which stations are moving until April.
That is a great point. Thank you for pointing that out. If I recall correctly, VHF High is preferred over VHF Low or it least it was in the past. Also, I seem to recall that adjacent channels were typically not assigned next to one another in the same market, BUT that was NTSC. Now, with ATSC, I think we have some adjacent channels.
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Also, I seem to recall that adjacent channels were typically not assigned next to one another in the same market, BUT that was NTSC. Now, with ATSC, I think we have some adjacent channels.
As long as the stations tower are within 14 miles of each other you can have adjacent stations assigned.
That is why we have 31(Daystar),32(WCCO),33(3ABN),34(KTCA),35(KSTP) assigned in Mpls. 32,34 and 35 are on the Shoreview towers. 31 & 33 are on the IDS building.
Thats why we have 22 (WUCW) and 23 (KTCI) next to each other too.

Also the only way someone is going to VHF is if they PAID to be moved. If none of the Mpls stations paid to move to VHF we will still have only 2 full powered stations on VHF (9 & 11). Now low powered ones can move if they get displaced.
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Just a heads up for you 4K guy's waiting on Comcast to have 4K channel's. 4K from Comcast has been scratched this year, maybe next year. They had a 4K app on Samsung tv's but due to the very low interest in the app it's been closed. I guess Comcast dont trust the 4K format at this point to go forward with channel's so they are going to wait until next year to see where the tech is at. No big loss for me since I have zero interest in the format anyway. But for those that do and are waiting on Comcast for 4K your gonna have to wait until next year it seem's.
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Speaking of 4K I see RCA is in the "gimmick game" again with their antennas.
Was at Fleet Farm and saw new "4K ready" RCA outdoor antennas. Funny thing is the older stock is the identical model yet they dont tout "4K ready"
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Speaking of 4K I see RCA is in the "gimmick game" again with their antennas.
Was at Fleet Farm and saw new "4K ready" RCA outdoor antennas. Funny thing is the older stock is the identical model yet they don't tout "4K ready"
I remember some places doing that with the analog to digital transition. They announced "digital antenna"!
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Directv has a full time 4K channel and a 4K events channel. I'm also a DIRECTV dealer so contact me if you have questions or need pricing. SatNet Direct LLC, Jeff, 612-741-8476.
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