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post #2251 of 2258 Old 07-13-2014, 06:39 AM
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Minneapolis, MN - OTA

Yesterday, I was adjusting my over the air antenna in an attempt to get as many channels as possible. I am doing exactly what I don't recommend, namely, I have an indoor antenna in the attic above the garage. Anyway, I would be interested in hearing from others in the Minneapolis Saint Paul market, do find yourself watching all of the over the air channels from time to time or do you end up watching just a few? Also, do you have cable, satellite, a Roku, DVD/Blu Ray player, too?

Personally, we mainly use DISH Network. Originally, when they came out with an over the air module for my receiver, I bought that to save the $5 per month for the local channels. Now, however, they have it bundled for me, so I can watch through the satellite or over the air antenna. As a practical matter, I find that I typically tune in mainly 4, 5, 9, and 11. I like having the ability to get all of the other channels that I can, but I simply don't watch the others very often.

One of the biggest benefits for me seems to be having a back up to the DISH satellite system during bad weather. Also, since DISH receivers themselves can occasionally have a problem, having the TV itself, with a built in ATSC tuner, connected to an over the air antenna is quite handy in those scenarios.

Anyway, what about by neighbors here in the Minnesota area. Are you a "cable cutter" and watching over the air exclusively, or do you also h ave cable, satellite, or something else? Do you watch all of the local channels occasionally or just a few?
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I've been OTA for years, briefly had cable but was turned off by all the reality and paid programming, and high cost to boot.
The center of my media experience is my Tivo, I basically watch all TV other than live news through my Tivo. I use a WD Live media player as well as my PC is hooked to my main display for streaming Netflix and things like Youtube.
I mostly watch the main channels, in order probably: WCCO, KSTP, KTCA, KARE, FOX and CW. I also appreciate the sub channels of MeTV, AntennaTV, ThisTV, the MN channel, TPTlife, Movies! and now GetTV. Don't really watch Livewell, WFTC, Bounce, KARE WX, ZUUS or any of the ION channels.
A uncle of mine was OTA for most of his live and recently got Dish because of the good price. He said he mainly finds himself watching the locals(including some sub channels he no longer gets with Dish) so he said he'll probably be cancelling his service as soon as the contract ends and going back to his antenna.
Oh I have several DVD and BD players as well, mostly watch DVDs in the DVD player but occasionally rent or have purchased a handful of BDs as well, I don't stream with my BD players but they have that capability.
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I also have a TV antenna that I use for local channels. I have DIRECTV too but find that I mostly watch local channels.
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Minneapolis, MN - OTA

I did some comparisons after re-adjusting my antenna after the KMSP changes. I have noticed that even though I have some other TVs with newer receivers, the good old reliable Zenith DTT-901s still seem to be the most sensitive and selective ATSC receivers that I have.

Also, on a related note, what website(s) to people here prefer to find local TV channels? I like http://www.antennaweb.org/ and http://www.antennaweb.org/ Unfortunately, Antenna Web seems to be a bit lacking lately. For example, I checked my ZIP, which is 55068, and most of the channels I reeive are shown EXCEPT 25 and 33. Also, they still show channels 17 and 29 a little bit different than TV Fool does.
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I think RabbitEars has the most up to date information.

http://www.rabbitears.info/market.php

We have been OTA since we built this house in 2004. I planned a space in the attic shooting through a gable end with no metal fasteners. We're about 70 miles northwest of Shoreview. Great signal and no regrets.
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My OTA struggles in Oakdale

I have good 'digital' antennas in both house attic and garage attic, but they both connect to 15 y.o. house wiring. So after the digital conversion, I was having a hard time getting a strong enough signal to support TPT stations on my old (series 2) analog Tivo. Ultimately 12-18 months ago, i went to Comcast, which I hate. I now pay $90/mo (including internet), and all i watch are OTA stations anyway, and not much of that.

So I decided to mount one of my antennas (from anntenas direct) outside and surface wired it, with new quad-shield coax, directly into the back of the Tivo. (well actually into a digital converter, and then my analog tivo). I'd used a signal strength meter on TV to test signal, and I was getting a strong signal (80-90). i'm <10 miles from shoreview. So i mounted it at the first level on my house, rather than having to go up higher to second level. However, I do not think i tested signal for TPT, which appears to be weaker than 4,5,11. After all that, TPT still pixilates and drops out.

So I guess the next step is to move the antenna up higher on the wall. And I'll probably upgrade to an HD Tivo, since that digital/analog conversion is certainly NOT helping my situation. Fortunately, you can buy a lot of equipment, with what you save by cutting Comcast!

I can't believe, in my location, that i can't get adequate OTA signal for this application. Does anyone have insight on TPT signals? I read they were upgrading power, but I don't know if that has happened?

Thanks for any advice, if you have any.
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I have good 'digital' antennas in both house attic and garage attic, but they both connect to 15 y.o. house wiring. So after the digital conversion, I was having a hard time getting a strong enough signal to support TPT stations on my old (series 2) analog Tivo. Ultimately 12-18 months ago, i went to Comcast, which I hate. I now pay $90/mo (including internet), and all i watch are OTA stations anyway, and not much of that.

So I decided to mount one of my antennas (from anntenas direct) outside and surface wired it, with new quad-shield coax, directly into the back of the Tivo. (well actually into a digital converter, and then my analog tivo). I'd used a signal strength meter on TV to test signal, and I was getting a strong signal (80-90). i'm <10 miles from shoreview. So i mounted it at the first level on my house, rather than having to go up higher to second level. However, I do not think i tested signal for TPT, which appears to be weaker than 4,5,11. After all that, TPT still pixilates and drops out.

So I guess the next step is to move the antenna up higher on the wall. And I'll probably upgrade to an HD Tivo, since that digital/analog conversion is certainly NOT helping my situation. Fortunately, you can buy a lot of equipment, with what you save by cutting Comcast!

I can't believe, in my location, that i can't get adequate OTA signal for this application. Does anyone have insight on TPT signals? I read they were upgrading power, but I don't know if that has happened?

Thanks for any advice, if you have any.
The TPT website shows that back on July 10 their broadcast antenna experienced a catastrophic failure.

http://www.tpt.org/?a=tptUpdate&id=2113
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I had no idea anything was wrong, I don't believe anything was ever posted here still getting all the TPTs just fine in Burnsville with a attic antenna. Now the KSTPs are another subject, I get 5.1 fine but bad pixelation on the sub channels which must be on a different channel. WCCO use to breakup badly so I adjusted my antenna a few degrees(about all I can do in my cramped attic) and now I get CCO fine but not some of the KSTPs Since I mainly watch/record CBS and occasionally KSTPHD but rarely the subs I guess things are OK until fall or I feel like changing my attic antenna for a smaller one I can point better. My current one is long and includes VHF low, something I no longer need.
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