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Are you saying your sister and mother both live in Chandler? If so, then they should have the First Run option (often referred to as the New Episodes option). The options are:
1. First Run only on this channel.
2. On this channel at any time.
3. On this channel any day in this time slot.
The First Run option (1) will record new episodes on a given channel regardless of time slot and length. For example, Grey's Anatomy was on last night from 9:00 - 10:00 and it is on again tonight from 8:00 - 10:00. The First Run recording I set up when the show first started last fall will record both these episodes without intervention. Similarly, Lost, Invasion, and ER have non-standard start/end times and the First Run recordings I scheduled last fall has recorded them all without any problems. Obviously, this option will fail if the IPG First Run flag is incorrect.
The Anytime option (2) will get all episodes regardless of time slot. This will get multiple showings of the same program if it is repeated at different times, like The Sopranos on HBO. Besides the duplicate recordings, the problem with this one is that if time slots vary, they could overlap other scheduled recordings and cause an inadvertent 3-way conflict and result in potential missed recordings.
The Any Day/This Time Slot option (3) will record multiple episodes of a given show in a particular time slot regardless of day. This is most useful for programs, like soaps, news, Oprah, etc., that are on multiple days at the same time each day.
There are also options to define how long recordings should be kept, how many recordings of a given show will be kept, and auto-deletion when space is needed for new recordings.
I can understand your sister missing her Tivo (not sure why she switched though), but it sure sounds like she doesn't understand enough about how the 8300 differs to get what she wants out of it. I'll be glad to help if I can.
Re 8 Alias eps. My guess is the options for how many episodes to keep and how long to keep them might have had an impact. Also, there is room for only ~20 hrs of HD and this could also have been a problem if she's saving a lot of episodes for marathon viewing and not watching the disk space usage.
Re Non-standard length. First Run recordings should not have a problem with varying start/end times. However, the other options will have to be changed each time. You can change the record start/end times for these, but they will be reset as soon as the next scheduled recording is done. A good example is Lost. One week it might be 61 minutes and 65 the next. You can change the end time to 9:01, but it will be reset to 9:00 and it will then have to be changed to 9:05 the next week. The "real" problem though is the option she seems to be using. Why is she not using the First Run option (1)? Or, if there is a good reason for that, why is she then not using the Any Time Slot option(2)? Either of these options should record these types of shows without intervention.
One of the biggest problems with the 8300 is that it doesn't let you know there is a problem. For example, when the HDD is full and auto-delete is turned off, it simply doesn't record any more. If there is an inadvertent 3-way conflict, it doesn't let you know that either and it doesn't record any of the 3 shows whereas Tivo uses a priority scheme to record 2 of the shows.