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well this bites the big one! Channels 10 and 36 seem to have swapped programming, low-def is now on 36.1-36.8 and HD is now on 10.1

Looks like I need to look into modifying my antenna setup. I was quite content not being able to receive vhs stations.

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Channel 8 (10-1) should be relatively easy to pick up. Some UHF only antennas do fairly well in the upper VHF range.

The reason behind it..........
http://www.milwaukeehdtv.org/forums/...ead.php?t=8089


MPTV Relocates Digital Channels

Tuesday, August 12, 2008
Several digital channels offered by Milwaukee Public Television, including its high definition simulcast of MPTV-10, will move to new locations beginning Monday, Sept. 1, at 12:01 a.m.

Viewers who receive their digital TV signal over the air will find MPTV-HD, the high definition channel, at 10.1. It will provide a simulcast of the programs on MPTV-10, one of the two analog channels operated by Milwaukee's public television station.

A digital version of MPTV-36, the other analog channel, will be available on 36.1, but it will not be high definition. Both analog stations will continue to present their regular programming until Feb. 17. On that date, television stations are required to begin broadcasting in the digital format.

"The new MPTV digital line-up is more logical," said Tom Dvorak, MPTV's Director of Broadcasting. "When everything changes in February, it will make it easier for viewers to find their favorite programs."

MPTV offers several other digital stations, including MPTV Create, which presents cooking, gardening, travel and other lifestyle programming; V-me, a Spanish language mix of education and entertainment; and MPTV World, providing public affairs coverage and documentaries.

V-me will be 36.2, MPTV World will be 36.3, and MPTV Create will be 36.4. These channels, as well as 10.1 and 36.1, also are available on some cable systems. Viewers should consult their cable guides to find the locations.
MPTV also offers two digital music channels, MPTV Classical 36.5, MPTV Jazz 36.6 and two informational channels MPTV Weather 36.7 and MPTV Traffic 36.8.

MPTV KIDS, on digital channel 10.3 and Time Warner Cable channel 552 on Time Warner Cable, will end. The same day, the weekday schedule of children's programs on MPTV-10-HD and MPTV-10 will expand to 13 hours, from 5 a.m.-6 p.m.

MPTV KIDS began as a pre-packaged service from PBS, a 24-hours children's channel. Three years ago,
PBS stopped offering that service to stations. At that time, MPTV made the decision to continue running
the channel using a back-up feed of PBS programming and repeating it every 12 hours. PBS is now eliminating that back-up feed so they can transmit more and more programs in high definition, which requires the use of greater bandwidth. Therefore, MPTV can no longer offer a 24-hour children's channel.

MPTV has been and continues to be committed to children: the new 13-hour block of children's programming, delivered in HD for the first time, is evidence of that. To review the children's lineup from 5 a.m.-6 p.m., click on TV SCHEDULES above.

Visit MPTV.org and select TV schedules for more information.
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Channel 8 (10-1) should be relatively easy to pick up. Some UHF only antennas do fairly well in the upper VHF range.

My CM 4228, in the attic, only gets 10-15% of signal on channel 8, according to my tuner card. All UHF stations are receiving 75% or greater. I'll check back in the HDTV Technical section for some info.

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well this bites the big one! Channels 10 and 36 seem to have swapped programming, low-def is now on 36.1-36.8 and HD is now on 10.1

Looks like I need to look into modifying my antenna setup. I was quite content not being able to receive vhs stations.

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If I read you right... you wanted 10.X to stay were it was? That would have continued on Channel 8. I know when I rescanned after the switch I actually "lost" 10.1 where I previously had 10.1-8 reliably... Figured they'd messed something up because I was expecting 10.X to have a couple of channels... not dump it all on 36.X (35).
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If I read you right... you wanted 10.X to stay were it was? That would have continued on Channel 8.

Yes, I had no interest in the programming that was on 10.2-10.8, and most of the former 10.1 programming was usually on 36.1, just at different times, and in HD. In fact I had the 10.x channels deleted from my favorites list on my TV. With the switch I don't receive enough signal for the HD programming which has been moved to 10.1 (channel 8).

I gues that gives me project.

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7" long 3/4" steel strapping spaced 5 3/4" Apart down the board. Matching Balun in center. All tips 3" apart.
Way more surface area to grab signal, The pointed ends help even more.
Hooked it up to a amplified table top antenna external antenna input jack so I can ramp up the gain if I want. Went from 12 to 32 channels.

Your looking at the back of the antenna, I added blocks to space it from the wall and hot glued the balun to the board. I also soldered all connections since the picture was taken.
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I live in Racine on the Southern side near the Kenosha border, what kind of reception should I expect with a decent indoor UHF/VHF antenna (Roof/outdoor mounting is not possible.)?
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I live in Racine on the Southern side near the Kenosha border, what kind of reception should I expect with a decent indoor UHF/VHF antenna (Roof/outdoor mounting is not possible.)?

Have you tried an antenna site like www.antennaweb.org yet?

They might give you a first impression of what your specific area can receive and what type of antenna would be required.

Worst case senario I've seen "homemade" antennas, like what onefastwienerdog has shown, with DIY instructions on youtube.

While I haven't done it myself I've seen people take "full size" antennas (usually "small" versions) and install them inside the house... hang them with some string or on a small mast and rotor.

I know the outdoor UHF "HDTV" Antenna that Menards sells is actually rather small compared to the "full size" UHF/VHF antenna they sell... Compared to my "old" UHF Antenna it is SMALL... You might get away with hanging it in a garage or something...

Check back with what antennaweb says and let us know what your options are like... you might be just fine with Rabbit Ears.
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* red
uhf WFLD-DT 32.1 FOX CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 31
* red
uhf WGN-DT 9.1 CW CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 19
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uhf WGN-DT 9.1 CW CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 19
* red
uhf WCIU-DT 26.1 IND CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 27
* red
uhf WVTV-DT 18.1 CW MILWAUKEE, WI Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 356° 28.9 18
* red
uhf WITI-DT 6.1 FOX MILWAUKEE, WI Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 356° 28.9 33
* red
uhf WSNS-DT 44.1 TEL CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 45
* red
uhf WCGV-DT 24.1 MNT MILWAUKEE, WI 356° 28.9 25
* red
uhf WGBO-DT 66.1 UNI JOLIET, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 172° 55.0 38
* red
uhf WFLD-DT 32.1 FOX CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 31
* red
uhf WPWR-DT 50.1 MNT GARY, IN 173° 56.2 51
* red
uhf WMAQ-DT 5.1 NBC CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 29
* blue
vhf WBBM-DT 2.1 CBS CHICAGO, IL 172° 55.0 3
* blue
uhf WLS-DT 7.1 ABC CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 52
* blue
uhf WCPX-DT 38.1 ION CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 43
* blue
vhf WLS-DT 7.1 ABC CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 7
* blue
uhf WVTV-DT 18.1 CW MILWAUKEE, WI 356° 28.9 61
* blue
uhf WXFT-DT 60.1 TFA AURORA, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 50
* blue
uhf WSNS-DT 44.1 TEL CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 45
* blue
uhf WBME-DT 49.1 IND RACINE, WI Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 353° 30.2 48
* blue
vhf WBBM-DT 2.1 CBS CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 12
* blue
uhf WJYS-DT 62.1 REL HAMMOND, IN Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 56.2 36
* blue
uhf WCPX-DT 38.1 ION CHICAGO, IL Feb 17, 2009 (post-transition) 173° 55.1 43
* blue
uhf WISN-DT 12.1 ABC MILWAUKEE, WI 354° 30.2 34
* blue
uhf WITI-DT 6.1 FOX MILWAUKEE, WI 356° 28.5 33
* blue
uhf WBME-DT 49.1 IND RACINE, WI TBD 359° 12.1 48
* blue
vhf WMVS-DT 10.1 PBS MILWAUKEE, WI 356° 28.9 8
* blue
uhf WPXE-DT 55.1 ION KENOSHA, WI 356° 28.9 40
* blue
uhf WTMJ-DT 4.1 NBC MILWAUKEE, WI 356° 28.6 28
* blue
uhf WCIU-DT 26.1 IND CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 27
* blue
uhf WTTW-DT 11.1 PBS CHICAGO, IL 173° 56.2 47
* blue
uhf WXFT-DT 60.1 TFA AURORA, IL 173° 56.2 59
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uhf WYCC-DT 20.1 PBS CHICAGO, IL 172° 55.0 21
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uhf WDJT-DT 58.1 CBS MILWAUKEE, WI 353° 30.2 46
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uhf WMVT-DT 36.1 PBS MILWAUKEE, WI 356° 28.9 35

Anyway, I imagine that receiving Milwaukee locals shouldn't be a huge deal but is there any hope of pulling in Chicago stations with any sort of indoor arrangement?
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Anyway, I imagine that receiving Milwaukee locals shouldn't be a huge deal but is there any hope of pulling in Chicago stations with any sort of indoor arrangement?

I was hoping you'd digest some of that data yourself and wittle down what you are already getting in analog/digital with your setup to compare with the data the site gave you. The color code should help decide what kind of Antenna you need for the channels you want. Compare what channels you can get with the color code for a general idea.

Compared to my setup where I'm less then 30 miles out (full size UHF/VHF and UHF antennas in attic space) I'm able to get most Milwaukee stations without issue. I can also get several of those stations with rabbit ears (CBS 58.X is one example about 26 miles out). With the full size I'm also able to get Green Bay WBAY ABC 2 which is about 67 miles out on a good day...

The website has a direction finder too which lets you know which way to point for certain station "clusters"... You might use that to see which stations are in range for your "Indoor" setup.

So based on the site data those are the stations you might get with various Antennas. We might need some results of the channels you are already getting before we can give you an opinion of what other channels you might get with an "improved" setup.
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I was hoping you'd digest some of that data yourself and wittle down what you are already getting in analog/digital with your setup to compare with the data the site gave you.

I don't have an antenna at all at the moment. I'm running analog cable with clear QAM for locals which leaves a lot to be desired. I'm looking to switch to antenna for ATSC broadcast channels in order to broaden my horizons. Basically, I have no options but an indoor antenna and am wondering if it's even worthwhile to try.
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OK,

Sorry about that. Based only on the data you gave you'll want a directional antenna... Rabbit ears/Multi-Directional antennas might not be enough. Yet rabbit ears are rather cheap and you might be able to return a setup that doesn't work correctly. I've seen Target sell a "Smart" GE set-top Panel HDTV antenna which might be a good Multi-Directional option. Check the color code on the box.

I've seen some Terk Set-top Directional Antennas that don't look to bad but those might cost a bit more. Some antenna window shopping might be in order. Some Radio Shacks still sell a good selection of antennas.
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It sounds like the Radioshack 1880 is the holy grail of indoor antennas from my reading here. Perhaps I'll pursue one on eBay. From the sound of it and my distance (I'm guessing 25-30 miles due South of the Milwaukee transmitters) it should pull them in from Milwaukee OK but hopefully with some luck I'll be able to pull in a Chicago station or two.
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Good Luck with that...

This is the manual for the 1880. You might look at the specs and compare those with other "available" models. You might find a model that can do the same thing or better, with the benefit of a return policy.

http://support.radioshack.com/suppor...oc71/71332.pdf
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First post here, whoo!!

Do we have a listing of the entire basic Time Warner Cable lineup somewhere? By an auto-program of my new 1080p Samsung HDTV (which I love), the placement of the HD channels is extremely confusing, and I don't think I'm receiving all of them. For example, WTMJ-DT is 1-4, while WITI-DT is 1-0, and from there it gets worse. All the MPTV channels are 116-x, with My24 and CW18 mixed in there somewhere, there's a second WTMJ in there, but not HD, and so on.

Is it only me, or are others getting this as well? And have we fully documented all these channels?

And unfortunately upgrading to Digital Cable or similar is really out of the question. I live in a house of 8, and not all have HDTVs, and we're all poor college students, so convincing them to spend extra on cable will be tough.
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Hello. It's my first post here!

I was wondering if we had a listing of all the HD channels available through basic Time Warner Cable? Based off my TV's autoprogramming, the channels are all over the place. For instance, 1-4 is WTMJ DT, 0-1 is WITI DT, there's a duplicate WTMJ, but not in HD somewhere in the DTV channels, CBS is way down in the 85's somewhere, all the MPTV stations are 116-x and so on.

Is anyone else getting this? I can't keep the channels straight for the life of me, or even know if I get them all, which is why I would like a master list of sorts. Unfortunately, I can't upgrade to digital cable or similar, because I live in a house of 8, of which not all have HDTVs, and, being all broke college students, it would be hard to convince them to spend any more on the cable bill.
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Hello. It's my first post here!

I was wondering if we had a listing of all the HD channels available through basic Time Warner Cable? Based off my TV's autoprogramming, the channels are all over the place. For instance, 1-4 is WTMJ DT, 0-1 is WITI DT, there's a duplicate WTMJ, but not in HD somewhere in the DTV channels, CBS is way down in the 85's somewhere, all the MPTV stations are 116-x and so on.

Is anyone else getting this? I can't keep the channels straight for the life of me, or even know if I get them all, which is why I would like a master list of sorts. Unfortunately, I can't upgrade to digital cable or similar, because I live in a house of 8, of which not all have HDTVs, and, being all broke college students, it would be hard to convince them to spend any more on the cable bill.

These are channels sent digitally over unencrypted QAM. TW won't acknowledge they are there, and they won't tell you how to find them. To further complicate things, depending on your TV's QAM tuner the channel number may vary. And TW occasionally shuffles them around. But if you look around, you can find all the locals in both HD and non-HD digital. You won't get anything other than locals though.
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qkslvrGTI,

From what Nick3092 is saying... it sounds like you're stuck with whatever your TV's tuner can find... Hopefully to make things easier on you, your TV has the ability to NAME and organize viewable/non-viewable channels. Maybe you can create memorable names for possibly shuffle how the channels display. As for the others... They might just have to buy/make some Rabbit Ears and sign up for $40 converter box coupons and order a cheap CECB (There are some near $40 boxes available online/offline)
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Time Warner's clear QAM is a mess.

If you look at the Silicondust website for the HDHomerun someone has one in the area hooked up via cable. It should show you what the channel mappings are: http://www.silicondust.com/hdhomerun...Postcode=53403

I suggest naming them and then adding them to the TV's favorite channels list. It's what I do with my Sony LCD. It sucks but what am I going to do?

Honestly I'm just waiting for the DTV Pal DVR to come out so I can get a nice OTA setup going.
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Been like this for awhile, CBS ch58 doesn't come in as HD. All other local channels do. Any idea how to fix?
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Been like this for awhile, CBS ch58 doesn't come in as HD. All other local channels do. Any idea how to fix?

Get Weigel broadcasting to reach an agreement with them. Until they do, no ch58 HD on D*.
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Just thought I'd chime in here. I live just east of Watertown in Jefferson County and have a Radio Shack bar antenna in the rafters of my garage. I pick up all the Milwaukee stations really well, with Fox 6.1 being flaky at times. I also pick up several Madison stations, but they're pretty weak. At the moment I'm running an HTPC with an HDHomerun and a Pinnacle PCTV HD Pro USB stick. Getting close to pulling the plug in DirecTV to save some $$$
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Just thought I'd chime in here. I live just east of Watertown in Jefferson County and have a Radio Shack bar antenna in the rafters of my garage. I pick up all the Milwaukee stations really well, with Fox 6.1 being flaky at times. I also pick up several Madison stations, but they're pretty weak. At the moment I'm running an HTPC with an HDHomerun and a Pinnacle PCTV HD Pro USB stick. Getting close to pulling the plug in DirecTV to save some $$$

The antenna will perform better if you can get it outside and as high as possible.
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Anyone have issues with picture pixelation during House and 24 today using DirecTV today?

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I didn't notice anything... If you have a certain time frame were it was bad... I DVRed both so I can recheck and see if it was the DirecTV feed or not.

I switched between Digital OTA 6.1 (during 24) and my DVR and both seemed to be fine.
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I didn't notice anything... If you have a certain time frame were it was bad... I DVRed both so I can recheck and see if it was the DirecTV feed or not.

I switched between Digital OTA 6.1 (during 24) and my DVR and both seemed to be fine.

Thank you. Whether I watched live or recorded, it was all pixelated and really bad through D*. OTA was normal, so I think it's D*. They are coming to the house tomorrow to take a look. Thanks!

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I recorded both of them via DirecTV DVR and via OTA into my HTPC. I generally watch the HTPC though since it's HD. We have too many tall trees in my neighborhood for me to hit the HD satellites. Any particular time-frame where you noticed pixelization?
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I recorded both of them via DirecTV DVR and via OTA into my HTPC. I generally watch the HTPC though since it's HD. We have too many tall trees in my neighborhood for me to hit the HD satellites. Any particular time-frame where you noticed pixelization?

It was very bad all throughout the entire episode of House, and about half as bad through 24. Heck it continued all night through the news, so it has to be D*, no?

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If I think of it, I'll watch the D* feed before we delete them, provided we watch them on the HTPC. If we watch the D* DVR, I guess I'll know right away
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