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post #181 of 1166 Old 01-27-2005, 10:06 PM
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where is everyone getting their ota receivers and does the bell expressvu 6020 hd sat receiver have ota capabilities.need to get one before the weekend so any help would be great.
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For you Canadians with ambitions for OTA HD, and no HD SAT receiver, the USDigital HDTV receiver sold at the US WalMarts is not a particularly distinguished receiver: lots of Americans have been complaining of substandard reception using them. Best Buy in the US has the Samsung SIR-T-360 for $299.99US, and it has a good HDTV tuner and DirecTV capability, although I know that NONE of you would ever subscribe to an illegal satellite service Several mail order sources also have the LG LST-4200 tuner available for about $265.00US. That tuner is widely regarded as the best HDTV tuner available from the standpoint of reception quality and ease-of-use. That model is being phased out, however, in favor of the new fifth-generation receivers with the newer decoding chip, which has much better resistance to multipath than previous versions. This will be a boon for urban dwellers who have no chance of mounting an antenna outdoors. LG expects to ship the new receivers by the end of the first quarter of this year.

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Originally posted by Jon_W
I was wondering what the prospects are for getting OTA HD from Brantford, On Anyone have any idea. I am about 25km southwest of Hamilton.

These guys should know - they are only a few miles from you - & have been in the antenna business for a loo..ng time

http://wade-antenna.com/default.htm
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thanks a lot buddy that link will be of great help
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I ran a quick calculation, and you should be OK for all the Buffalo Stns -- (103 miles) and definitely good for the Grand Island channels (73 miles).

You may have a problem with City and toronto1 -- right now -- low power. CBC goes on the air in Feb. -- with high power.

You should get a good antenna like the CM4228 or its Winegard equivalent.
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PWOR,
The Bell 6000 series has an optional OTA module. The newer HDTV sets are coming out with ATSC tuners. i.e. -- there is a SANYO at Walmart c/w ATSC tuner, and the newer SONYs have tuners. I would'nt buy a set without them.
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I forgot to add, it also depends what side of the escarpment you are on. West of the escarpment, you'll get nothing.
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i just bought a sanyo plv z3 lcd projector thats why i need a ota receiver.
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I was wondering what the prospects are for getting OTA HD from Brantford, On Anyone have any idea. I am about 25km southwest of Hamilton.

Jon_w:

I,m about 20 miles sw. of Hamilton and probably about 30 miles se. of Brantford and I receive all the Buffalo stations with the exception of WB49 (low power) currently.

I have a channelmaster 4228 on a 40 foot tower.
BTW,I also pickup Toronto 1 out of Hamilton (15-1) and CBC (5-1) with no problems. You should also pick up some Erie stations as well although they have no HD except for PBS.

Hope this helps:
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Thanks for all the info guys, it is very helpful. I think I am west of the escarpment, but from what I know so it Cayuga so who knows,lol. I am going to to some local antenne people and see what they say.
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There is a video loop on 20-1 now.
It is 4:3 and I do not think it is HD.
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There is a video loop on 20-1 now.
It is 4:3 and I do not think it is HD.

It looks a lot like Hockey Night in Canada or there abouts.

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I am getting a black screen all day.Are they having problems?
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How do I get the lattitude and longitude of my home? I'm in Vancouver, B.C.

I can find the coordinates of the transmitters on the FCC website.

And then, do I plug in these two coordinates, plus the ERP and elevation for the transmitter, into an equation and then it tells me what antenna gain I need to achieve a certain SNR?
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Go to http://maprtuit.ca and it will give you your lat and long.

Then go to http://www.2150.com/broadcast/default.asp and enter the lat and longs -- choose about 100 miles. There are options for directions, distance, etc. and you'll get all the potential OTA locations for your location.

Generally, the shorter the distance, the stronger the signal. The program uses the FCC database, but doesn't take into account possible obstructions, etc.
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myhui:

correction:: should be http://www.maptuit.ca
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Very strange in using a big anntenna on a tower out in the country two and a half hours west of Torontonear Woodstock Ontario and I can get Erie channels which are crap except for PBS and a few Cleveland channels but I cannot pick up any Toronto channels. I can get non HD City TV in perfectly fine but im not picking up the HD city tv. Anyone have any ideas
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I can get non HD City TV in perfectly fine but im not picking up the HD city tv. Anyone have any ideas

CityTV HD is only using 1200 watts of power, which even at my distance of 70 kilometers to the transmitter barely registers as a signal. Whereas the CBLT-DT signal on channel 20 at 38KW is too strong and I have to put 20 dB attenuation into the signal to acheive a 18 dB signal.

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Well that sucks, I wonder if I could call or email them and complain. Do you guys know the email or number?
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Well that sucks, I wonder if I could call or email them and complain.

They wanted to go to 1300 watts and the CRTC only gave them 1200. Why I don't know, personally I'd like to see at least 3000 watts.

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Are you able to pick up CITY-2 in Woodstock on 51 which is supposed to be licensed for 75 kW.

According to the FCC documents, CITY-1 in Toronto is only licensed for .9kW (900 watts).

Their web site is http://toronto.citytv.com/events/hdtv/
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No I cant even pick up Woodstock CITY-2 thats very strange as I live right near there.
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check that is CITY-2 is channel 31 non HD channel then yes thats what im getting. Im looking for the HD stuff though
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CITY-2 on 51 is digital according to the FCC. It may not be on the air. Check with City.
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K well im not getting 51 digital, Far as im concerned FCC or CRTC should get the axe im so sick of getting the short end of the deal because I live outside a city in a rural area. Are we nobodies or what?
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intrac I assume now you live in the area, what are you picking up for all channels?
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In the Toronto area -- CITY & Toronto1 + the Buffalo channels (when they work).

The other Toronto channels will all be on the CN Tower at higher power later this year. In the meantime, CFTO and Global are on cable or satellite in HD.

The Buffalo channels are still playing around. Sometimes they work in HD, sonetimes not.

BTW -- I sent an email to CITY engineering to find out about 51.
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I sent a few to city as well, im not picking up any Buffalo here only erie and some cleveland which is off half the time. I was looking for global HD as well but by reading your post looks like its only for cable or sat.
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You should be able to pick up WUTV 14 - Buffalo, WNLO 32 - Buffalo, and WNED 43 - Buffalo. These are 93 miles from you.

What kind of antenna do you have?

You'll need to change the direction of your antenna to almost due west.
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