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post #7921 of 8870 Old 06-10-2014, 02:16 PM
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Here is a link to TV Signal Analysis Results from tv fool:
http://www.tvfool.com/?option=com_wrapper&Itemid=29&q=id%3de1c600bc96937c

Directly combining antennas isn't a good idea. You can safely combine a VHF and a UHF antenna with a UVSJ. That really doesn't serve much purpose in the CLT area since only WTVI is VHF and it can be picked up by any combo antenna since it's located at one of the antenna farms.

You can't easily combine two antennas of the same band if they are pointed in different directions. What is possible is to build a DVR with multiple tuners connected to different antennas. The DVR will automatically select the right antenna depending upon channel selected.

Assuming we are talking about a single antenna for now, and your stated requirement of "get as many channels as possible", then replace that DB8 with an Antennacraft HBU-55. A Winegard LNA 200 is a good amplifier. Don't try to get them locally. They will overcharge if you can even find them. Go to an internet store like Solid Signal.
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Antennacraft HBU-55 or Winegard 7698 are good combo antenna choices for fringe reception. Depending upon location, you may receive neighboring markets such as GSP-Asheville, Columbia, or Greensboro. I believe WSPA-7 can be received west of Charlotte, and WOLO-8 and WIS-10 to the south.
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What antenna/preamp would you recommend?

My current setup is using a DB8 with an old(but new) Lance Industries AB728 mast mount amplifier mounted on my tower(ham) at 25ft.

I read on this thread that the DB8 was tuned for the old bands and it is not working as good as it use to. I would like to get as many channels as possible, I like channel surfing. Also don't have a problem using multiple antennas if it could keep from needing a rotor.

Here is a link to TV Signal Analysis Results from tv fool:
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I remember back 20 years ago when on a nice summer night you could pick up stations from over 120 miles when living in the Midwest, miss those days.

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From York County, in addition to Charlotte, you should be able to get Greenville- Spartanburg and Columbia. So I do recommend the Winegard 7698 and the LNA-200 preamp. There is a Kitztech 100 preamp with adjustable gain which has very low noise. But turn the gain down to prevent overload from Charlotte. Also the inexpensive RCA preamp is a good performer. Should be able to get WSPA, WOLO, and WIS and possibly others in addition to Charlotte.
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Thanks for the reply guys, I'll give that a shot. I read there was a station in Columbia broadcasting ION TV, would be a nice addition to pull in.
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Looks like it's official, Movies! lands on 46-2 starting July 1. http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/76929/movies-network-signs-five-new-affiliates

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Do WTVI carry PBS NewsHour Weekend in HD in Charlotte, NC on Saturdays and Sundays like UNC-TV does?...

No it does not. FYI: You can use TitanTv to see what's on in other regions, either by zip code or location: http://www.titantv.com/
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Looks like it's official, Movies! lands on 46-2 starting July 1. http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/76929/movies-network-signs-five-new-affiliates

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According to wiki (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Movies!), they send it in 16:9 mode, but it's up to the station to decide on which format (SD, HD) they will broadcast it.
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I am aware of precisely zero stations carrying Movies! in HD. It's provided on satellite in 16:9 SD, so I'm not sure why a station would upconvert it to HD before transmission.

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No it does not. FYI: You can use TitanTv to see what's on in other regions, either by zip code or location: http://www.titantv.com/

I see, WTVI doing the PBS NewsHour Weekend preemption like SCETV's main channel does.

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I see, WTVI doing the PBS NewsHour Weekend preemption like SCETV's main channel does.
If you like something other than the news on the big three, then....

WTVI does show MHZ Worldview on one of it's subchannels. It's the only station in the Carolinas to do so.
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Looks like it's official, Movies! lands on 46-2 starting July 1. http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/7...new-affiliates

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Congratulations, newbie Fox O&O WJZY, for finally joining the MOVIES! team!

Which leaves me (I'm not a local here, though I enjoy browsing through Trip's website very much) and the local Charlotte viewers wondering, where will Antenna TV go? Maybe Gannett's WCNC 36-2? I know because, in case you haven't heard, the Live Well Network will cease operations next January, and 3 other Gannett markets air Antenna TV: Atlanta, Buffalo, and Tampa. (WBTV 3-3 could be a solid contender as well, because I think at least one Raycom station airs Antenna TV.)

Enjoy your MOVIES!, Charlotte!

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As I mentioned earlier, before this was announced, I won't really miss AntennaTV if they take it off the air in CLT. They never update their content. The same shows are playing, for the most part, that were playing 3 years ago when it went on the air.

I do hope that WJZY does up the resolution on 46.2 to at least EDTV (704x480) instead of the atrocious cropped resolution that Capital Broadcasting setup when they were trying to run 4 sub-channels on this station.

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Looks like it's official, Movies! lands on 46-2 starting July 1. http://www.tvnewscheck.com/article/7...new-affiliates

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I figured this would eventually happen, as Movies! is owned by FOX and Weigel, and since FOX acquired WJZY. I assume they had to wait on the pre-existing contract with Antenna TV to expire. And FOX did not seem to want to run 3 or 4 subchannels like Capitol did.
Perhaps they will move Antenna TV to 55.3 and drop Jimmy Swaggart. But I hope not, as I enjoy the gospel music. On Antenna TV I like All in the Family, Sanford and Son, and Three's Company. But overall I think MeTV is a bit better.
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I figured this would eventually happen, as Movies! is owned by FOX and Weigel, and since FOX acquired WJZY. I assume they had to wait on the pre-existing contract with Antenna TV to expire. And FOX did not seem to want to run 3 or 4 subchannels like Capitol did.
Perhaps they will move Antenna TV to 55.3 and drop Jimmy Swaggart. But I hope not, as I enjoy the gospel music. On Antenna TV I like All in the Family, Sanford and Son, and Three's Company. But overall I think MeTV is a bit better.

WRDW 12.3 in Augusta, GA still has AntennaTV OTA.

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WRDW 12.3 in Augusta, GA still has AntennaTV OTA.
If FOX doesn't keep Antenna TV on 46 or 55, then perhaps another channel may pick it up. Possibly 36.2, although I speculate they may already have other plans for that channel. And I don't want WBTV to add 3.3 again, as it will pull from the HD quality on 3.1 .
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If FOX doesn't keep Antenna TV on 46 or 55, then perhaps another channel may pick it up. Possibly 36.2, although I speculate they may already have other plans for that channel. And I don't want WBTV to add 3.3 again, as it will pull from the HD quality on 3.1 .
Why WBTV dumped ThisTV in the first place?

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Why WBTV dumped ThisTV in the first place?
They dropped ThisTV to make room for Bounce. ThisTV is now on 55.2, as well as 4.2 .
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They dropped ThisTV to make room for Bounce. ThisTV is now on 55.2, as well as 4.2 .
WBTV had Bounce on 3.3 before dumping ThisTV and moving it to 3.2 that's what I remember.

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On Antenna TV I like All in the Family, Sanford and Son, and Three's Company. But overall I think MeTV is a bit better.
A couple of years ago, Me-TV had a stronger lineup than it does now. Now I find that AntennaTV is stronger, with shows such as WKRP, Barney Miller, Too Close for Comfort, Burns and Allen, and Jack Benny.
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Hopefully they will broadcast it in proper 16:9 SD and not smush-o-vision. Some markets do it right and some don't.
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Yeah some of the Charlotte broadcasters seem to have particular problems with the aspect ratio and getting it right.
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Hopefully they will broadcast it in proper 16:9 SD and not smush-o-vision. Some markets do it right and some don't.
That would be great if they do so.

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Since after the switch in Charlotte, NC a year ago when WJZY became FOX O&O along with MNT station WMYT and forced WCCB to end its 26 year relationship with FOX and switched to the CW, it's sad that there's no Charter FOX affiliates left in North Carolina at all. What does 'Charter' like Charter FOX affiliate mean? I don't understand!

I know that WACH in Columbia, SC and WTAT in Charleston, SC (both signed on in 1985, the year after WHNS and WAXA signed on in GSP) are the remaining two Charter FOX affiliates in South Carolina while WAXA was the original FOX for GSP before financial woes, losing FOX to WHNS in Fall 1988, and WAXA going off the air for good in 1989.

I've heard that WCCB's newscasts had lower ratings after they switched from FOX to The CW just like when San Diego's XETV switched from FOX to The CW and KSWB switched from The CW to FOX in 2008.

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^The FOX departure isn't the first time WCCB has lost an affiliate. At one time, they were the ABC affiliate for CLT.

At the time WSOC was NBC and WRET (now WCNC) was independent. Around 1977/78 ABC, which had become the #1 network in the USA for the first time, decided it wanted to be on VHF in CLT. So they convinced WSOC to take them on, and NBC, rather than move to WCCB, went to WRET instead.

WBTV is the only charter affiliate left. CBS has been on that station for a very long time.
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^The FOX departure isn't the first time WCCB has lost an affiliate. At one time, they were the ABC affiliate for CLT.

At the time WSOC was NBC and WRET (now WCNC) was independent. Around 1977/78 ABC, which had become the #1 network in the USA for the first time, decided it wanted to be on VHF in CLT. So they convinced WSOC to take them on, and NBC, rather than move to WCCB, went to WRET instead.

WBTV is the only charter affiliate left. CBS has been on that station for a very long time.
Actually it was Summer 1978 when the first Charlotte, NC network switches happen. Similar thing WCCB had from San Diego, CA's XETV years before when it was ABC, then Independent, then FOX, and now The CW. Ted Turner owned WRET (WCNC) at the time, two years before selling it to Westinghouse so Ted start CNN in Atlanta, Georgia on June 1, 1980. WCNC was braded NBC6 (because it's on Channel 6 on most cable providers in the DMA) like NBC O&O KNSD Channel 39 in San Diego aka NBC 7/39 now NBC 7. WCNC and KNSD both carry Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! too. Of course WCNC calls it NBC Charlotte nowadays like NBC O&O's WVIT 30 (aka NBC Connecticut) and KNTV 11 (aka NBC Bay Area where former Charlotte, NC/WCNC newsman Allen Denton used to work there, now he's in San Diego of course!) even though WCNC is now owned by Gannett I think just like WFMY in Greensboro, WLTX in Columbia, and WXIA in Atlanta and others.

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Actually it was Summer 1978 when the first Charlotte, NC network switches happen. Similar thing WCCB had from San Diego, CA's XETV years before when it was ABC, then Independent, then FOX, and now The CW. Ted Turner owned WRET (WCNC) at the time, two years before selling it to Westinghouse so Ted start CNN in Atlanta, Georgia on June 1, 1980. WCNC was braded NBC6 (because it's on Channel 6 on most cable providers in the DMA) like NBC O&O KNSD Channel 39 in San Diego aka NBC 7/39 now NBC 7. WCNC and KNSD both carry Wheel of Fortune and Jeopardy! too. Of course WCNC calls it NBC Charlotte nowadays like NBC O&O's WVIT 30 (aka NBC Connecticut) and KNTV 11 (aka NBC Bay Area where former Charlotte, NC/WCNC newsman Allen Denton used to work there, now he's in San Diego of course!) even though WCNC is now owned by Gannett I think just like WFMY in Greensboro, WLTX in Columbia, and WXIA in Atlanta and others.
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Channel 36 (then WRET) was the original home of the PTL Club in Charlotte, also known as the Jim and Tammy Show. And as a charter affiliate, WBTV is one of the longest serving CBS affiliates in the country, since 1949.
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Channel 36 (then WRET) was the original home of the PTL Club in Charlotte, also known as the Jim and Tammy Show. And as a charter affiliate, WBTV is one of the longest serving CBS affiliates in the country, since 1949.
I don't thinking having aired the PTL Club is anything to brag about. It is really quite depressing the way televangelists distort religion.
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Channel 36 (then WRET) was the original home of the PTL Club in Charlotte, also known as the Jim and Tammy Show. And as a charter affiliate, WBTV is one of the longest serving CBS affiliates in the country, since 1949.
I don't thinking having aired the PTL Club is anything to brag about. It is really quite depressing the way televangelists distort religion.
Just a relic of Charlotte broadcast history. But from a technical and broadcast standpoint, PTL was a top tier production, with one of the largest soundstage studios outside of Hollywood. Very good music and production quality on that program, despite the unfortunate events that lead to its demise.
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Channel 36 (then WRET) was the original home of the PTL Club in Charlotte, also known as the Jim and Tammy Show. And as a charter affiliate, WBTV is one of the longest serving CBS affiliates in the country, since 1949.
When WRET became WPCQ in 1980, it was the only NBC affiliate ever to preempt NBC Nightly News weekend telecasts (when the late Jessica Savitch was anchoring, sadly she was killed in a drowning in Fall 1983) in 1980, and weeknight telecasts in 1982 which meaning that Charlotte, NC viewers missed out on Tom Brokaw's first three years as anchor (Brokaw anchored from March 29, 1982-December 1, 2004) and his first year with Roger Mudd as co-anchor (from 1982-1983, both succeeding the late John Chancellor) unless watching it from WXII 12 in Winston-Salem, NC or WIS 10 in Columbia, SC or WFBC/WYFF 4 in Greenville, SC OTA.

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