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Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 12:28 PM 07-16-2014
Washington Redskins Football (Pre-Season) on WSOC-TV. COMCAST will deliver the feed in 16x9, HD to non-affiliated COMCAST stations this year. WSOC-TV will only cross-convert from 1080i to 720p, other than that it will be broadcast just as it is delivered to us.

Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 12:32 PM 07-16-2014
WSOC-FM has an ERP of 100Kw, which is standard for a Class C - FM. It is not located on WSOC-TV tower. It is located on the former 36 tower on Hood Road.
bdfox18doe's Avatar bdfox18doe 05:55 PM 07-16-2014
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you can't compare signal transmission with a delta of 500mhz. FM is right above VHF Ch.6 and you understand the difference alone in the antenna differences of VHF Low to UHF, so in short you should have your answer.
Just shows how some here really know very little about some of the often off-topic subjects they continually comment on..things like transmit antenna patterns and power, signal propagation and curvature of the earth, etc, and The the fact that same tower being used has very little bearing on reception. Spending some time on Rabbitears would be a better usage of internet time for some. A lot can be learned from Trip's excellent trove of data.I use it constantly. Bravo Trip!
tylerSC's Avatar tylerSC 07:21 PM 07-16-2014
As I said, I know UHF and FM are different. My point was simply that for some reason, I get surprisingly good reception of 103.7, in addition to the Gaston County radio signals which are more expected at my location.
ejb1980's Avatar ejb1980 08:16 PM 07-16-2014
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Washington Redskins Football (Pre-Season) on WSOC-TV. COMCAST will deliver the feed in 16x9, HD to non-affiliated COMCAST stations this year. WSOC-TV will only cross-convert from 1080i to 720p, other than that it will be broadcast just as it is delivered to us.
Excellent information. Thank you.
tesla_engineer's Avatar tesla_engineer 08:50 AM 07-17-2014
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As I said, I know UHF and FM are different. My point was simply that for some reason, I get surprisingly good reception of 103.7, in addition to the Gaston County radio signals which are more expected at my location.
Should stay off the TV site with FM info to start with. This site would do much better if it could stay on topic.
Trip in VA's Avatar Trip in VA 09:34 AM 07-17-2014
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Just shows how some here really know very little about some of the often off-topic subjects they continually comment on..things like transmit antenna patterns and power, signal propagation and curvature of the earth, etc, and The the fact that same tower being used has very little bearing on reception. Spending some time on Rabbitears would be a better usage of internet time for some. A lot can be learned from Trip's excellent trove of data.I use it constantly. Bravo Trip!


Normally I'd magically appear sooner, but I've spent the last several days moving into the house I just bought. And reception is great!

- Trip
Theo1080's Avatar Theo1080 09:44 AM 07-17-2014
Starting August 18th, WAXN 64.3 will start airing ESCAPE TV. It will be 16x9, 480i. Programing is targeted for woman 25-54. Its companion channel, GRIT TV is targeted for men 25-54 will air on another channel in Charlotte. I will let that station announce it. I can answer questions about ESCAPE TV if you have any. (edited 12:50pm...changed 4x3 to 16x9...feed from Escape TV is 1080i, WAXN will air at 480i)
csmith's Avatar csmith 10:44 AM 07-17-2014
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Starting August 18th, WAXN 64.3 will start airing ESCAPE TV. It will be 4x3, 480i. Programing is targeted for woman 25-54. Its companion channel, GRIT TV is targeted for men 25-54 will air on another channel in Charlotte. I will let that station announce it. I can answer questions about ESCAPE TV if you have any.
Found their websites:

http://www.escapetv.com/

http://www.grittv.com/
tylerSC's Avatar tylerSC 02:55 PM 07-17-2014
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Just shows how some here really know very little about some of the often off-topic subjects they continually comment on..things like transmit antenna patterns and power, signal propagation and curvature of the earth, etc, and The the fact that same tower being used has very little bearing on reception. Spending some time on Rabbitears would be a better usage of internet time for some. A lot can be learned from Trip's excellent trove of data.I use it constantly. Bravo Trip!
Yes I have often researched his Rabbitears site as well as the FCC database. Very informative.
A J's Avatar A J 03:09 PM 07-17-2014
Grit TV will be added on WBTV (I assume 3.3) sometime in August.
tylerSC's Avatar tylerSC 03:15 PM 07-17-2014
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Starting August 18th, WAXN 64.3 will start airing ESCAPE TV. It will be 16x9, 480i. Programing is targeted for woman 25-54. Its companion channel, GRIT TV is targeted for men 25-54 will air on another channel in Charlotte. I will let that station announce it. I can answer questions about ESCAPE TV if you have any. (edited 12:50pm...changed 4x3 to 16x9...feed from Escape TV is 1080i, WAXN will air at 480i)
I hope they continue to do a good job preserving the video quality on the HD channel when they add these subchannels. I guess it is a bit of a balancing act, but supposedly now they have more advanced methods. But right now 64.1 and 64.2 look good when I see them. And the other station currently does a good job also, and I guess they will soon officially announce about the Grit TV. But a little research and you can find out what it is.
tylerSC's Avatar tylerSC 03:17 PM 07-17-2014
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Grit TV will be added on WBTV (I assume 3.3) sometime in August.
That's what I learned as well. And hopefully they will continue to do a good job with the video quality on all the channels.
SpencerKarter85's Avatar SpencerKarter85 03:43 PM 07-17-2014
Well WBTV 3 turned 65 years old this week! The first TV station in Charlotte, NC!
blackcat6's Avatar blackcat6 04:30 PM 07-17-2014
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Well WBTV 3 turned 65 years old this week! The first TV station in Charlotte, NC!
I might be wrong, but I believe it was the first station in the Carolinas.

I remember my grandmother talking about getting a TV in 1949 or so and channel 3 was the only thing that could be picked up.
blackcat6's Avatar blackcat6 05:22 PM 07-17-2014
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Grit TV will be added on WBTV (I assume 3.3) sometime in August.

Interesting. I believe the official reason stated for WBTV getting rid of THIS (which I think was moved to 3.3 when Bounce was added) , was they needed the bandwidth for something else. i.e. The nonsense of broadcast TV on mobile phones or something like that.

I guess that didn't work out for them.
tylerSC's Avatar tylerSC 07:05 PM 07-17-2014
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I might be wrong, but I believe it was the first station in the Carolinas.

I remember my grandmother talking about getting a TV in 1949 or so and channel 3 was the only thing that could be picked up.
Yes WBTV was the first TV station in the Carolinas beginning in 1949. And one of the longest original CBS affiliates.
ejb1980's Avatar ejb1980 11:00 PM 07-17-2014
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I might be wrong, but I believe it was the first station in the Carolinas.

I remember my grandmother talking about getting a TV in 1949 or so and channel 3 was the only thing that could be picked up.
Out of curiosity, what is the significance of the call letters of WBTV?
tesla_engineer's Avatar tesla_engineer 01:24 AM 07-18-2014
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Out of curiosity, what is the significance of the call letters of WBTV?
None at the start (Radio) WBT randomly assigned by Commerce Department when it moved to a licensed station from a experimental station. The "V" was added to the 3 letter call sign for TV. A Buick dealer that owned WBT in the 20's prior to CBS buying it in 1929 claimed WBT was Watch Buick Travel. Sorry about the radio reference, but you asked. At one time WBTV had this information on there web site. After the split of radio and TV I don't know if they still do.
blackcat6's Avatar blackcat6 03:19 AM 07-18-2014
I was looking at archive.org's backup of WBTV and was surprised that in 1997, WBTV had the same anchor, chief weatherman, and sports director that it has today. (Cameron, Thomas, Little) I'd say that makes them the longest running news team in CLT. I'm not sure about the other two, but I'm pretty sure that Thomas was there in '94.

Edit: Cameron has been there since 1981! (how time flies)

In any case, if you want to read up on the history of WBTV, I suggest this from when the station was 50 years old. Funny that a lot of people at WBT didn't want to transfer to WBTV.


https://web.archive.org/web/20000815...om/wbtv-50.htm
blackcat6's Avatar blackcat6 04:52 AM 07-18-2014
Speaking of that station. It's interesting that on their morning news, that WBTV hawks Bounce for a moment and they list all the ways you can get it, cable & web, but they neglect to say that it's available on broadcast 3.2 via an antenna.
A J's Avatar A J 07:25 AM 07-18-2014
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Grit TV will be added on WBTV.
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That's what I learned as well. And hopefully they will continue to do a good job with the video quality on all the channels.

PBS transmits excellent HD on 58.1 plus two SD sub-channels with very good PQ. Why shouldn't WBTV be able to do the same thing? However, if two SD sub-channels would noticeably degrade CBS's HD primetime signal, then I'd give the second SD a big thumbs down.

blackcat6's Avatar blackcat6 07:52 AM 07-18-2014
WWAY in Wilmington transmits two HD channels and Retro TV and they all look good.
difuse's Avatar difuse 02:02 PM 07-18-2014
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I might be wrong, but I believe it was the first station in the Carolinas.

I remember my grandmother talking about getting a TV in 1949 or so and channel 3 was the only thing that could be picked up.
WBTV was the 1st TV station in the Carolinas, beating out WFMY by a few weeks. However, for two years WBTV had only film and slide capability, and no network line connection. For what it is worth, WFMY had the first live local.and network programs.. For several years following, WBTV did surpass most stations in the country technically, being early employers of mobile remote and color transmission.
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SpencerKarter85's Avatar SpencerKarter85 01:56 AM 07-19-2014
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I was looking at archive.org's backup of WBTV and was surprised that in 1997, WBTV had the same anchor, chief weatherman, and sports director that it has today. (Cameron, Thomas, Little) I'd say that makes them the longest running news team in CLT. I'm not sure about the other two, but I'm pretty sure that Thomas was there in '94.

Edit: Cameron has been there since 1981! (how time flies)

In any case, if you want to read up on the history of WBTV, I suggest this from when the station was 50 years old. Funny that a lot of people at WBT didn't want to transfer to WBTV.


https://web.archive.org/web/20000815...om/wbtv-50.htm
Paul Cameron is a veteran in Charlotte broadcasting. Been there the same time when the late Mike Manhatton (who recently died from colon cancer last March) joined Savannah's WTOC (now WBTV's sister station) until Manhatton's colon cancer death earlier this year.

The late Mike Manhatton was WTOC's answer to Paul Cameron of WBTV.
blackcat6's Avatar blackcat6 04:57 AM 07-19-2014
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.... Mike Manhatton (who recently died from colon cancer last March) joined Savannah's WTOC (now WBTV's sister station) until Manhatton's colon cancer death earlier this year. .....
Wow, only 56 when he passed. Poor fellow. It's one of those diseases that once you know you have it, it's already too late to do anything about it. I don't know if this applies to Mr. Manhatton or not, but anyone hitting 50 should get a colonoscopy.
SpencerKarter85's Avatar SpencerKarter85 10:25 AM 07-20-2014
I hope MeTV does a tribute to the late James Garner (he passed away yesterday at 86) by airing reruns of The Rockford Files on WCCB 18.3 in Charlotte, NC and WSPA 7.2 in my market of Greenville, SC. He was a great icon, but never be forgotten by fans.
rdgcss's Avatar rdgcss 12:41 PM 07-20-2014
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I hope MeTV does a tribute to the late James Garner (he passed away yesterday at 86) by airing reruns of The Rockford Files on WCCB 18.3 in Charlotte, NC and WSPA 7.2 in my market of Greenville, SC. He was a great icon, but never be forgotten by fans.
+1
A J's Avatar A J 06:45 AM 07-21-2014
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I hope MeTV does a tribute to the late James Garner by airing reruns of The Rockford Files on WCCB 18.3 in Charlotte
WCCB 18.3 has already been showing episodes of Rockford, M-F from noon to 1:00PM, although I prefer to watch it uninterrupted on Netflix..

The James Garner series I'd like to see again is Maverick. Haven't seen that in years.

Trip in VA's Avatar Trip in VA 06:55 AM 07-21-2014
My fiancee and I watched The Great Escape on DVD last night (it's my favorite movie and she'd never seen it). I also loved him in My Fellow Americans.

- Trip
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