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post #8551 of 9067 Old 08-20-2014, 10:42 AM
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The blue backlighting has been restored in the news studio on WCNC. But it looks better this time in HD, and I think it may be new lighting. Looks like a lighter shade of blue and looks much nicer this time around.
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Does RG-11 coax provide any advantages over RG-6 for home use? (mainly for connected an outdoor antenna) Thanks in advance.
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Does RG-11 coax provide any advantages over RG-6 for home use? (mainly for connected an outdoor antenna) Thanks in advance.
Over 600Mhz and over 150' for the coax than yes other wise no. For me having both cables available I use RG-6 for my OTA antenna farm and satellite farm with out an issue.

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The atmospherics must have changed enough for me to get WIS-TV (Columbia, SC) on 10.1, 10.2 (ThisTv) and 10.3 (Bounce). 10.1 is NBC, there was a lip sync issue with voice leading video (WCNC was fine).

I was scanning my DISH 722 to update the channel list for 64.3 and they popped in. The 722 has great DVR software, so it's used for live OTA viewing (pausing, fast forward/reverse), only thing missing is the OTA guide. I picked up Greensboro 20.1,2,3,4 one weekend in the spring also. It's like DXing for AM radio stations at night as a kid .
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Over 600Mhz and over 150' for the coax than yes other wise no. For me having both cables available I use RG-6 for my OTA antenna farm and satellite farm with out an issue.
Thanks for the info. I was contemplating buying a spool of it. It's a bit on the pricey side however.
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Thanks for the info. I was contemplating buying a spool of it. It's a bit on the pricey side however.
Go ahead and spring for RG-6 quad-shield
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Go ahead and spring for RG-6 quad-shield
That would be a waste of money. "Quad-shield" cable has exactly the same attenuation loss as any other RG-6 cable. (unless you spring for poorly made Chinese cable, but that is a different issue)

Lots of hype around that one.

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I thought quad shield will help provide protection from interference from other electronics, wifi, and cell phone towers etc.
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I thought quad shield will help provide protection from interference from other electronics, wifi, and cell phone towers etc.
If there was something radiating with enough energy to induce a signal on a regular RG-6 coax cable, it would certainly be picked up by the antenna and that would completely overwhelm any protection, if any, provided by the extra shielding. I think this is a non-issue that is used by salesmen to sell more expensive cables.

I'm more interested in attenuation loss. UHF loses signal strength as it travels down coax. The extra shielding has no effect on this.
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Somebody on here recommended Belden RG-6 cable. But the RG-6 at Home Depot seems decent.
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Local news stations will be covering a major announcement at Carowinds at 11am this morning. The big media event will be streamed live on Carowinds.com. Stay tuned to your local news sources today for complete coverage.
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World's tallest and fastest gigacoaster is coming to Carowinds next year, Fury 325. WSOC and WCNC had good coverage. And I know, back to topic now...
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Saw a promo for "Black Sheep Squadron" coming in September, but I can't remember which channel. Glad to be able to see those bent wing Corsairs again, boring holes in the sky and blasting away at AT-6s painted as Zeke-lookalikes.
That is coming to METV this fall

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Also ThisTV and AntennaTV are owned by the same company as WGN America.
Antenna TV, WGN are owned by Tribune.
This TV is not. It is only distributed by Tribune.

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Antenna TV, WGN are owned by Tribune.
This TV is not. It is only distributed by Tribune.
Also back before Tribune got THISTV it used to be own by same owners of METV/MGM before METV owners sold their part to Tribune so

fox/METV owners start the MOVIES channel.
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I added 18.4 to my system. Will there be guide data setup with tribune like it had when it was on 18.2?
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I am still struck by how good the picture is on Movies!. It's almost HD like at times.
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I added 18.4 to my system. Will there be guide data setup with tribune like it had when it was on 18.2?
It is already on mine equipment. Shows they were celebrating Toys and Christmas this morning, I noticed.
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I wonder if it's certain days of the week that the MeTV/AntennaTV captions go whacky... Earlier this week we had a good day. But for the last couple of days we have been back to all of the old issues.
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WJZY FOX-46 will debut a new morning news program on Monday, with the anchors sitting around a diner talking about the day's news and events. Appears to be a nice looking set. But I guess a normal newscast with a standard anchor desk seems to be out of the question at this station, both morning and night. Seems to be their strategy to do something different. The program will be Good Day Carolinas.
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I don't believe WJZY has any choice but to go with alternative news programming. Look at how far behind they are currently (WJZY has less than 2% of channel 9's audience at 6:00 PM). If they try to "out-channel-9" channel 9 (WSOC, which is on WAXN at 10:00 PM), I am afraid they will fall further behind. They have a loooooog up-hill battle. Look at the numbers for Rising (WCCB), and they have been doing a tremendous quality job for years. I hope they can carve out a chunk of the "non-channel-9" audience, but multiple others are already trying to hang on to their piece of it.

Charlotte newscasts Estimated number of viewers reached by key weekday newscasts during the July sweeps and percentage change from last July as measured by Nielsen.
6 A.M.WSOC-71,700 +13%, WBTV-41,700 +10%, WCNC-17,700 -16%, WCCB-8,000 +16%, MIDDAY: WBTV-71,600 -4%, WSOC-59,500 +3%, WCNC-14,300 +73%
6 P.M.WSOC119,900 +7%, WBTV-79,900 +10%, WCNC-37,400 -2%, WJZY-1,700 -68%, *NETWORK NEWSCASTS ABC-115,000 +6%, CBS-80,600 +9%, NBC-68,600 +21%
10 P.M.WAXN-49,900 +22%, WCCB-30,300 +40%, WJZY-10,900 -52%
11 P.M.WSOC-70,800 +1%, WBTV-69,500 -3%, WCNC-26,700 -5%
*In July 2013, WJZY aired reruns of “Rules of Engagement” in this time period. It launched a newscast June 30, 2014.


July sweeps are the least important of the year because networks are on reruns or summer programming and viewers are on vacation or otherwise taking advantage of the summer. But this year in Charlotte they are important for what they show at 10 p.m. in news viewing. We have the first full year of CW network programming on WCCB (Channel 18) and Fox programming on WJZY (Channel 46) after the affiliation swap last July and can examine news viewing exclusive of the change in lead-in shows. Overall, there is a 7% increase in the number of news viewers at 10 p.m. and again WAXN (Channel 64) far outpaces its rivals. But WCCB, which has lost about a third of its news audience after the affiliation switch, shows a 40% surge over last year, while the Fox-owned station, WJZY, lost half its news viewers over last year in the time slot, when it aired a newscast supplied by WBTV (Channel 3). In January, WJZY began producing its own 10 p.m. newscast, an experimental show that challenged the traditional news structure. So far it hasn’t found traction in the ratings. A key to judging its effectiveness will come after January 2015 when year-to-year results on the Fox newscast are available. In the advertiser-preferred age demographic of 25-54, WAXN dominates, followed by WCCB, then WJZY. At 10 p.m., WCCB doubles its audience from the CW prime-time lead-in for its newscast; WJZY loses two-thirds of its audience from the Fox prime-time. WAXN’s audience increases its audience by nearly three-fourths at 10 p.m.


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It is already on mine equipment. Shows they were celebrating Toys and Christmas this morning, I noticed.
I don't mean EIT data
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I don't believe WJZY has any choice but to go with alternative news programming. Look at how far behind they are currently (WJZY has less than 2% of channel 9's audience at 6:00 PM).....
I've tried to watch this news but it's the clown show. (well.... that is actually unfair to clowns)

It's not as much to do with format, but the complete lack of anything comprehensible as news.
  • Millennials given cameras and told to do video selfies about something in the area. No context, no counter point, no disclosures of vested interests, no checking, no nothing.
  • Segments like this journalistic gem "What's Shak'n with Shekka" or something like that. Basically they watch youtube videos.
  • Barbara Lash describes the St. Louis thing as "murder". (as in the police murdered that poor Black guy)
  • They make a lot of mistakes like pitting Hagan against Barr. (who can never run against each other)
  • Head anchor and head weatherman, cook food in a microwave.
  • They apparently love illegal aliens.
  • The news is decidedly one sided very liberal, but they are also forced to show segments from the Fox News channel which leaves them a bit speechless.
  • Much of the 6pm news is designed to be a teaser for the 10pm news.

It's 30 minutes too long. They might do better in the morning where the standards are a bit more loose. About the only thing they get right is sports, but it's hard to mess that up.

News corp does such a great job with Sky News. It's hard to believe this "news" comes from the same company.

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I've tried to watch this news but it's the clown show. (well.... that is actually unfair to clowns).

I absolutely agree with you. It is unbearable to watch. I was just outlining their theory, or what I believe it to be.
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I've tried to watch this news but it's the clown show. (well.... that is actually unfair to clowns)

It's not as much to do with format, but the complete lack of anything comprehensible as news.
  • Millennials given cameras and told to do video selfies about something in the area. No context, no counter point, no disclosures of vested interests, no checking, no nothing.
  • Segments like this journalistic gem "What's Shak'n with Shekka" or something like that. Basically they watch youtube videos.
  • Barbara Lash describes the St. Louis thing as "murder". (as in the police murdered that poor Black guy)
  • They make a lot of mistakes like pitting Hagan against Barr. (who can never run against each other)
  • Head anchor and head weatherman, cook food in a microwave.
  • They apparently love illegal aliens.
  • The news is decidedly one sided very liberal, but they are also forced to show segments from the Fox News channel which leaves them a bit speechless.
  • Much of the 6pm news is designed to be a teaser for the 10pm news.

It's 30 minutes too long. They might do better in the morning where the standards are a bit more loose. About the only thing they get right is sports, but it's hard to mess that up.

News corp does such a great job with Sky News. It's hard to believe this "news" comes from the same company.
I could not agree more especially with the Fox News see-saw with opinions and views. They would probably do better with their skits up in Asheville a lot people up their would appreciate those antics better than the Charlotte DMA.

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....They would probably do better with their skits up in Asheville a lot people up their would appreciate those antics better than the Charlotte DMA.
Maybe...... but their problem is bubble heads they are trying to appeal to, are so self absorbed, they don't care about the news anyway.
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I've tried to watch this news but it's the clown show. (well.... that is actually unfair to clowns)

It's not as much to do with format, but the complete lack of anything comprehensible as news.
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Are you sure that it's not just Murdoch and Ailes' way of parodying liberalism?
But, on the other hand, you did not really expect a commitment to sobriety and journalistic excellence from the corporation that has brought the world "American Idol", the friends on the curvy couch, and The New York Post, did you?

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Well the FOX owned newscasts in other markets are done much better with a more standard format. Such as FOX-5 in DC and Atlanta, and FOX-8 right up the road in Greensboro. But they have made a decision to do something different in Charlotte. But it has not worked. And I think it is about time they make a more traditional choice. I know it won't be easy to out do Channel 9, but I think it is time they begin to try.
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Well the FOX owned newscasts in other markets are done much better with a more standard format. Such as FOX-5 in DC and Atlanta, and FOX-8 right up the road in Greensboro. But they have made a decision to do something different in Charlotte. But it has not worked. And I think it is about time they make a more traditional choice. I know it won't be easy to out do Channel 9, but I think it is time they begin to try.

WGHP is not a FOX O&O station.
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Are you sure that it's not just Murdoch and Ailes' way of parodying liberalism?...
I won't take this bait as the world is much more complicated than red vs blue. It's also off topic.

This is the second time you have responded to a post of mine in this manner. I called as I saw it on on WJZY. Since you don't live in the broadcast area, then you don't really have any idea what we are talking about. I note that you didn't say anything about WJZY's broadcast specifically.

Somehow you also missed completely that I also posted that Murdoch owns the quite excellent Sky News. If he was as you state, such a news organization would not exist. I recommend you watch it some. It might expand your horizons.

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