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It's all about what kind of programming you watch. For me, 1080i looks better. It has 50% more lines of resolution than 720p. But for big sports fans, where there is a lot of fast-moving action as with NASCAR, 720p is better because the progressive presentation will show a cleaner display of that type of program, despite fewer over-all lines of resolution.
Yeah. You definitely need 1080i to get the full enjoyment from watching the race end under a yellow flag because the drivers cannot go a full lap without crashing into each other. Motion blur is not a concern when the yellow flag is out.
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When there's a tornado cutting across the landscape, you will all be very glad to have your shows interrupted by a warning announcement. Public safety is far more important than entertainment programming.

Since 2011, my biggest severe weather fear is large hail, course, that goes hand in hand with twisters.
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With a name like Cozi, the channel should be on only during the winter.
Cozi TV is the name of NBC Universal Classic TV channel like METV, antennatv,LAFF that shows Classic TV shows
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Yeah. You definitely need 1080i to get the full enjoyment from watching the race end under a yellow flag because the drivers cannot go a full lap without crashing into each other. Motion blur is not a concern when the yellow flag is out.
I'm a bit disappointed with NASCAR races and digitally broadcast sound. I have a fairy nice 5.1 speaker system, but the cars don't sound all that dynamic. Now listening to a NASA IMAX DVD is something else.
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I'm a bit disappointed with NASCAR races and digitally broadcast sound. I have a fairy nice 5.1 speaker system, but the cars don't sound all that dynamic. Now listening to a NASA IMAX DVD is something else.
I'd like to see more Formula 1 races, races that are on road courses rather than just an oval. I guess NASCAR does have Watkins Glen.
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I'd like to see more Formula 1 races, races that are on road courses rather than just an oval. I guess NASCAR does have Watkins Glen.

The Atlanta race was the first I'd ever seen on a 40" TV.

I must admit, cars passing over the track-level camera took a bit getting used to. It wanted to play tricks on my mind.
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Fast moving action looks better with 720p, that is why ESPN uses it, hence that's why ABC uses it as the owner of ESPN under Disney. 1080 vs 720 is not the issue. Its Interlace (I) vs Progressive (P).

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Fast moving action looks better with 720p, that is why ESPN uses it, hence that's why ABC uses it as the owner of ESPN under Disney. 1080 vs 720 is not the issue. Its Interlace (I) vs Progressive (P).
P does come after I!

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Fast moving action looks better with 720p, that is why ESPN uses it, hence that's why ABC uses it as the owner of ESPN under Disney. 1080 vs 720 is not the issue. Its Interlace (I) vs Progressive (P).
Isn't it really 720's 60 fps versus 1080's 30 fps ? Does OTA have the band width to support 1080 60 fps ?
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Fast moving action looks better with 720p, that is why ESPN uses it, hence that's why ABC uses it as the owner of ESPN under Disney. 1080 vs 720 is not the issue. Its Interlace (I) vs Progressive (P).
That depends upon the deinterlace software/gpu being used. Temporal or Advanced 2X deinterlacing will produce a picture approaching 1080p with no issues with fast motion. If you have a HTPC, a cheap $45 nvidia gpu will handle it fine.

Unfortunately if you are using a TV receiver, you are stuck with whatever they put in it and good chance they didn't put much cost into it.
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Isn't it really 720's 60 fps versus 1080's 30 fps ? Does OTA have the band width to support 1080 60 fps ?
720p runs at 59.94 frames/sec 1080i runs at 29.97 frames/sec ....since 720 is progressive there are no fields, just frames. 1080i has appox 60 fields which yields the ~30 frames since it is interleaved.

1080p60 can not be transmitted by the current ATSC 1.0, 8VSB standard.

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720p runs at 59.94 frames/sec 1080i runs at 29.97 frames/sec ....since 720 is progressive there are no fields, just frames. 1080i has appox 60 fields which yields the ~30 frames since it is interleaved.

1080p60 can not be transmitted by the current ATSC 1.0, 8VSB standard.
Let's see 59.94 is pretty darn close to 60, 29.97 is as you did say is basically 30; close enough for us amateur techo geeks. 😁

There's a new ATSC spec in the works with better compression that will allow 1080p 60 as well was UHD/4k if I remember correctly.
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ATSC 3.0 standard would allow a UHDTV signal to be transmitted. (3840x2160p60) true 4K is 4096x2160p60 4K is a studio standard, UHDTV is a transmission standard. slight different

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ATSC 3.0 standard would allow a UHDTV signal to be transmitted. (3840x2160p60) true 4K is 4096x2160p60 4K is a studio standard, UHDTV is a transmission standard. slight different
Seems like a lot of tech writers don't seem to understand that UHD and 4k aren't the same. I lost any respect for the majority of them a long time ago because they seem to be able only repeat what some other dim whit wrote.
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Seems like a lot of tech writers don't seem to understand that UHD and 4k aren't the same. I lost any respect for the majority of them a long time ago because they seem to be able only repeat what some other dim whit wrote.
Well, it's all just marketing oriented jargon. Remember when 1080p was called "Full HD" to distinguish it from mere 720p HDTV? Well, if "F" is used to represent "Full", then UHDTV ( 3840 by 2160 ) could legitimately be called "4F", because it is four times as many pixels as 1080p.

That would be truth in marketing.
But who would want to admit that his or her TV set had been declared 4F ?
Imagine the shame of having a TV set that is not fit for military service.
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Anybody know what's going on with PBS WUNE-TV channel out of Linville, NC? I can't even get a blip on the screen pointing my antenna directly at it, and most of the time I usually get it from the back side weather permitting. It's been down for me in Hickory round about a few weeks now.
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Anybody know what's going on with PBS WUNE-TV channel out of Linville, NC? I can't even get a blip on the screen pointing my antenna directly at it, and most of the time I usually get it from the back side weather permitting. It's been down for me in Hickory round about a few weeks now.
It's fine here in Blowing Rock.
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Cozi tv coming to Greenville SC whns tv 21.2 end of the month

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It's fine here in Blowing Rock.

Ok that's good to hear. I guess their power level is down for some reason because that Linville PBS station is supposed to service the Boone to Hickory area. Unless I got something wrong with my tuner on that channel specifically, then all I can figure is their power is down. I will make some phone calls to see if I can get more information.
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I'm picking up WUNE fine here in Huntersville ~70-75 miles away. It's easier for me to receive than WUNG in Concord.
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I'm picking up WUNE fine here in Huntersville ~70-75 miles away. It's easier for me to receive than WUNG in Concord.
Thank you.

Problem was on my end. I did a re-scan of all channels, and I am getting it good now. Usually my tuner lets me tune in a channel by letting me input the channel directly, but this time around it required a re-scan of all channels.
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FYI...

LAFF TV is up on the satellite. Programming looks good. Remember programs will be in 480i, 4x3....Look for the start at 12 noon on April 15th.

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In the last few days both Grit & Escape are looking a whole lot better. They are watchable again.
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