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post #9721 of 9732 Old 04-16-2015, 05:55 AM
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The original Channel Master 7000PAL DVR was an excellent unit, with a solid, stable tuner that adeptly handled both strong and weak signals. It is the same model as the DTV Pal DVR from Dish Network, and was manufactured by Echostar. It originally used TVGOS on screen info , but that was discontinued. But the unit still worked with the PSIP data.
100% true. Mine is over four years old, and reboots more often now, but otherwise performs excellently. My practice (people can debate whether it's good or bad) is to unplug the unit for most of the day on Saturday and again on Sunday. I figure on the days when I will not record anything, giving the hard drive a rest may extend the life somewhat. But since some people believe it's never good to power down your PC, people would disagree on whether that's good. (My Mom has an ancient XP computer that she only turns on to print something, because she can do everything else on her IPAD. Other than needing to copy Word documents to text so she can print them (Word won't open any more) her set-up still works fine.)

PS: Whatever funky was happening on Monday and early Tuesday with the OTA date and time in the broadcast signal, has apparently cleared up. I will probably blame the LAFF conversion because of the timing (but I'll be sure and "laugh" when I say it, since I really don't know... )

The good news is that I will run my CM 7000PAL DVR until it will no longer run, because it's functionality literally no longer exists. There is nothing else that has HDMI, Component, and Composite, and I use them all to feed the entire house (I have so much coaxial under my house, the man who installed the furnace came out from the crawlspace literally angry at me. )

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I like the Tivo's the best, tho I think their value of monthly guide data is severely misplaced.
TiVo's guide date is especially onerous if you get the OTA model. You are forced to pay the max $14.95/mo for guide data for a handful of local channels. The OTA model has no options for yearly ($30 less per year) or lifetime subscriptions (big savings long term) offered on other model TiVos and those guides can consist of hundreds and hundreds of cable channels.

My CM-7000PAL is struggling a bit, but still hanging in there. It's tuners get stronger signal strength on Charlotte stations than either of my Samsung TVs. If/when it dies and I'm forced to switch to TiVo, or something else, I hope the tuners on the new DVR will suffice with my current antenna setup.
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TiVo's guide date is especially onerous if you get the OTA model. You are forced to pay the max $14.95/mo for guide data for a handful of local channels. The OTA model has no options for yearly ($30 less per year) or lifetime subscriptions (big savings long term) offered on other model TiVos and those guides can consist of hundreds and hundreds of cable channels.

My CM-7000PAL is struggling a bit, but still hanging in there. It's tuners get stronger signal strength on Charlotte stations than either of my Samsung TVs. If/when it dies and I'm forced to switch to TiVo, or something else, I hope the tuners on the new DVR will suffice with my current antenna setup.
When mine dies, if there are no repair options, I will have to go with the new CM model, which means one TV at a time using the one HDMI connection, unless I spend more money on a splitter or something to downgrade the signal to analog for secondary connections.

My onscreen guide still works pretty well even over the air, but often I do get "NO INFORMATION" for program description, when it retrieves only the program name. On other days, it will show the episode description just fine, on the same program and same channel that didn't show it the day before...

I hope that box works for years to come. The moral of this story is, if there is technology you like in something you buy, consider purchasing a second one, because if the majority doesn't use it or it becomes "outdated", the manufacturers will sure get rid of it, to cut costs.
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The moral of this story is, if there is technology you like in something you buy, consider purchasing a second one, because if the majority doesn't use it or it becomes "outdated", the manufacturers will sure get rid of it, to cut costs.
Yea, good advice..I did that with a Panasonic cordless phone I really like..a complete spare in the
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TiVo's guide date is especially onerous if you get the OTA model. You are forced to pay the max $14.95/mo for guide data for a handful of local channels.
But it's also a $49 box. You are also subsidizing the cost of the equipment. If you tried to match the Tivo's abilities with a PC, the hardware would cost you several hundred dollars and you would still need to find a remote to work with it. It's not cheap to build a PC that can drive a HD 16:9 display with say 1080i content and hold large amounts of storage all while being silent, low power, and small.

Still over time, they come out ahead, but it does work and works well. Practically every other DVR out there has issues, requires you to support other equipment to make it work, and some have gone out of business leaving you with a brick.

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Hey Bob, based on your signature, are we to assume that the views you express here DO represent those of QVC (since that is left out of the list)?
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Simply an observation, which reflects only on me: I have tried viewing the LAFF Channel. I cannot determine what "LAFF:" means.
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Simply an observation, which reflects only on me: I have tried viewing the LAFF Channel. I cannot determine what "LAFF:" means.
Oooh. That's cold.

I took a look at the programming listings, and I'm a bit bummed that "Night Court" is not on the schedule yet.
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But it's also a $49 box. You are also subsidizing the cost of the equipment. If you tried to match the Tivo's abilities with a PC, the hardware would cost you several hundred dollars and you would still need to find a remote to work with it. It's not cheap to build a PC that can drive a HD 16:9 display with say 1080i content and hold large amounts of storage all while being silent, low power, and small.

Still over time, they come out ahead, but it does work and works well. Practically every other DVR out there has issues, requires you to support other equipment to make it work, and some have gone out of business leaving you with a brick.
A lot of people just want to be able to time shift programming and view it within a day or two.
If some of the new "linear" streaming services lack DVR-like capabilities but do allow the viewer to watch the program via on-demand within a couple of days of the original airing, that might satisfy some potential customers.

For how long a period do viewers "count" in the Nielsen ratings?
Is it now Live plus seven days?
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A lot of people just want to be able to time shift programming and view it within a day or two.
And the Tivo allows one to do that well, without any headaches.
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